Do you care about other people's view on politics/religeon and gun control?

[Jimbo 0]

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Wow...It's probably only brought up for debate/intellectual curiosity purposes.

Negative. It's brought up time and time again for one purpose...to instigate an argument. That's it. Period. The same people (everyone knows who they are) purposely start "hot button" threads for the pure sick satisfaction of starting arguments. Sad.

Really, if you don't like the threads, then don't click on them. Is it REALLY that difficult? From JohnRich: Rather than try and control what everyone else talks about, I suggest that it would be easier for you to just control what you look at. It's good advice.

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[Kris 0]

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Sweet! Its an argument about whether or not people should care about other people arguing.

That sums it up very nicely!

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[skybytch 273]

Boobies.

[PlayDough 0]

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Was this the wrong place for this sort of thing?

[tunaplanet 0]

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Boobies.

Heh, is this the new standard response to all the political and religeous threads? Lol, if so I am in!

Forty-two

[jb092 0]

I could care less what people "think" Its when they start acting on it is what I dont like. Your opinion is your opinion when you start trying impose your opinions on me I have a problem.

What could possibly go wrong?

[skybytch 273]

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Heh, is this the new standard response to all the political and religeous threads?

"Boobies" was a standard for thread hijacking around here "way back in the day." I felt it was time to resurrect it.

[tunaplanet 0]

Count me in as a new disciple. We'll say "boobies" after every political post

I think it would be more effective if there was a pic attatched.

Forty-two

[Michele 1]

I voted yes.

I do care. I've read things on here that I didn't know about. I've been challenged on my thinking and position about something, and needed to learn more about it to explain my thoughts adequately.

I know at least one person has, from "the other side of the fence", thanked me for presenting something they hadn't known about before...as I have thanked them, as well.

So yes, it's a part of life, a part of these forums, and a part of what makes this place interesting.

There are many threads I don't open because I know the author is either talking about something beyond my ken, or because I am honestly not interested in who got laid last night by whom.

It's tough being green, as Kermit would say. How about letting those greenies who are active participants handle those political/regligious threads, and you other greenies handle the other ones? And also rely on us posters who can see if something is getting out of hand to notify you? That way, you don't have to read everything (and I honestly can't see how you do anyway, there's so much to keep on top of...).

We are in a contentious time in this world, and I don't think that quashing the discussions does anything beneficial.

That's my opinion...

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[ChileRelleno 0]

I had to answer, YES.
But I really don't want to give a rats ass and I generally stay out of the religious/political threads but unfortunately some of these people go out and vote on related issues (Gun Control) which may affect my freedoms in this or other aspects of my life.

Things I dislike... Abortion, gun control, political correctness, government welfare, big government/brother, impotent laws, criminal lawyers/ambulance chasers, lack of daily public criminal executions, wasted tax dollars, illegal immrigrants, terrorist, assholes/asshats, professional politicians, overflowing prisons (see lack of daily public criminal executions, wasted tax dollars ect...)....... man could I go on.

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I care, but When I'm cruising the Forums of DZ.com, I really dont' have much patience for a thread with hundreds of posts about this stuff - need to think more about skydiving and less about the other "Stuff"..............

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[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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I give a rat's ass what everyone else thinks about politics/religion/gun control. It's a complete waste of time and bandwidth to argue about any of it, especially on a fucking skydiving site.

What relevance does it being "on a fucking skydiving site" have to do with anything? It has no LESS of a place here alongside threads about how drunk someone is, or funny names for vaginas. Really, unless you're trying to argue that the gun discussions etc. should not even be in the GENERAL TALK BACK section, I don't see why you would even mention "especially on a fucking skydiving site."

I myself DO care what people think about these issues, particularly because what people think and believe and feel on issues like this guides what they will DO about these issues, and how they will VOTE. Those things (what others do and vote) will very possibly have an effect on me and my life, and my freedoms.

Besides, I have a very hard time believing that anyone who is of sound mind actually believes in gun control in actual, genuine good faith. To me, it is such an inherently flawed doctrine that I can't believe anyone who claims to believe in its efficacy (at crime or violence control) really truly believes in it. (Now, we know that some surely "believe" in it because their ultimate goals have nothing to do with actually stemming a real or perceived crime problem...)

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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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It's a complete waste of time and bandwidth to argue about any of it

Especially many times in the same day about the exact same bullshit. It's really sad to see the same shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over again from the SAME FUCKING PEOPLE.

Create a forum for politics/religeon/gun control or start deleting these worthless threads.

So, you started a bullshit poll for no other reason than you wanted to rant against and denigrate the "same fucking people" who engage in the gun control/religion/politics threads. Go you! I guess you got what you wanted.

I see you give so little of a fuck about those threads that you took the time to "waste bandwidth" to check out how many others feel as you do. That reminds me of b1jercat popping his trolling little snout into all the gun threads just to inform an apathetic group of people that he couldn't give a shit about the discussion topic. You and he are living breathing oxymorons, it seems.

I guess threads that bear on actual real life issues are "worthless," but I don't see you railing against the "I am so DRUNK" threads. Yeah, those serve a useful purpose...

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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[3ringheathen 0]

"Boobies" was a standard for thread hijacking around here "way back in the day." I felt it was time to resurrect it.

[Amazon 7]

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It won't work unless you post pictures of nice ones.

Not me....

People start saying you are THAT kind of girl.. Right Diablo???

BWAHAHAHAHA

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Is this or is this not a skydiving related website? Are there or are there not many other websites where politics/gun control/religion are the primary subject matter for discussion? Dontcha think people who frequent those websites would get a bit uptight if we came in and started discussing RSL's and AAD's?

Yes, yes, and yes.

Does that have any bearing on the fact that these discussions take place on the part of dropzone.com that is NOT reserved for people to discuss skydiving?

For crying out loud, you're a moderator, and yet you seem to bemoan discussions that are taking place in the appropriate place for them! Are the aforementioned subjects any less appropriate on the non-skydiving part of this site than the stupid links to nudie pictures or drunkenness-related posts are?

When comments like yours are directed mostly at gun-control threads it makes your attention to them seem kinda bigoted against those in particular, when it is obvious in the extreme that they are not the only non-skydiving redundant threads that get put here.
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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So JohnRich...since you love to talk about politics/religeon/gun control so much, tell us the websites to the forum boards you post on since you claim to care so much about it. Let us no your username on those sights so we can take a looksy.

And if you don't post on forum boards catered to those topics, why do you insist on posting them on a skydiving forum board?

Seems to me people just like to post threads to get people in an uproar.

LO-FUCKING-L! You mean like THIS thread?!

Really, you sound like such a whiner, complaining about the frequencey with which JohnRich posts about something he is completely entitled to do in the part of the forum reserved for non-skydiving talk. What the hell is so wrong with just bypassing those threads? Do you just like complaining about them after you are non-forced to read them? Or do you harbor a (not-so)secret desire to be the all-powerful-grand-poobah-of-the-universe who gets to say who gets to say what and how many times? I mean really, get the fuck OVER yourself, man. I've never seen JohnRich bitching about what YOU post about, or how pointless it may be.
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Used to be this one.

Now it's been taken over into a political/religeous forum by a select few.

What a pathetic display of histrionics. "Taken over"? "Select few"?
Could you perhaps tell me how people who don't have any power to lock or delete threads, or to ban users, or to post any more threads or mesages than YOU do, can have "taken over" this forum?

And why are you bitching about posts that are not about skydiving when they don't take place in the skydiving portion of the website?

Maybe if you'd put a or something, I could write your complaints off as tongue-in-cheek, but amazingly, you seem to be in earnest about your objection to others posting their conscience about what they wish to discuss. You know what? I guess if you're that intolrant, it's too fucking bad for YOU, brittle-man.

I think I'll go post a poll to see how many people object to histrionics and melodrama and people who object to other people's choices of discussion topics. Should be very fruitful and rewarding and productive. You know -- just like THIS happy little thread.
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[tunaplanet 0]

Forty-two

[nacmacfeegle 0]

Another balanced outlook on things from Michele.

I also am interested in what my sky brothers and sisters think. I enjoy seeing opinions from around the world on things like gun control/politics/foreign policy etc. This is, after all, a global community and I still don't fully appreciate subtle cultural nuances, such as gun ownership. But we have covered most of the ground already, and most folk here know where each other stands on various issues.
So why flog the horse?
The purpose of open debate is to provide informed personal opinions. As long as people keep it civilised and attack issues as opposed to personalities everyone can learn and develop. I also get annoyed when people ask a question, then refuse to accept the answers they solicit. If you don't want to hear opinions, don't ask for them! Less rhetoric and more open discussion would be useful.
What is also sad is when individual crusaders continue to distract me from more important issues, such as BOOBIES.I'm damned if I'm going to get into 8 months of Kerry/Bush discussions. Things were bad enough here about a year ago, and during the recent liberation.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, by all means discuss these topics ad infinitum, but keep it civilised. We as skydivers are already in a minority, why further divide us with fluff?

Good to see BOOBIES back on the agenda.

Oh and I don't really subsrcibe to worthless polls so I haven't voted, this ain't no democracy!

Boobies.

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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Good to see BOOBIES back on the agenda.


Boobies.

I don't think it would hurt if onto the agenda we could also sneak some POO-SAYYYYY!!!
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[testpilot 0]

No.

Dave
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http://www.skydiving.co.za

[Shotgun 1]

Ok, here's a picture for the BOOBIES hijack-attempt...

How about some fairy boobies?

(probably NSFW)