shmali 0 #1 March 16, 2004 So you get your gear past security and onto the plane. Half way through the flight (continental ie no water) something really bad happens (like an engine explodes or window breaks etc..) what do you do. Spawned from the weirdest dream i've had yet. Pineappe Death Juice, If you have to ask you'd rather not know! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grega 0 #2 March 16, 2004 No way that i'd miss high altitude jump "George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osuskydiver 0 #3 March 16, 2004 high altitude high speed jump. COUNT ME IN By the time you read this you have already read it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaGimp 0 #4 March 16, 2004 why do you think i always carry one rig on instead of mailing them both.....always provide yourself with a way out....if you can."Professor of Pimpology"~~~Bolas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #5 March 16, 2004 Well, I'd gear up, but only end up using it if the plane breaks apart. I'm not gonna de-pressurize a still-pressurized cabin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlie 0 #6 March 16, 2004 If the plane is breaking apart and everthing including passaengers get thrown out, I think I'll make the best of the trip down by flying to as many people as I can to see if they'd like to play tagMy other ride is the relative wind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #7 March 16, 2004 If the plane is still pressurized you won't get the door open anyway. If it's a crash situation good luck on standing up.....getting your rig on....getting to the back...and then exiting before you pass out. Pretty unlikely you would be able to pull it off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grega 0 #8 March 16, 2004 oh no problem i wear my rig all the time anyway. sometimes even in my sleep "George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #9 March 16, 2004 Quote i wear my rig all the time anyway. sometimes even in my sleep I laughed pretty hard. I some airlines policy the other day. Forget which one......it said that you could carry on rigs but they could NOT be worn in the cabin. Can't you just picture sitting there with a rig on. People staring at you....."How's it goin?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #10 March 16, 2004 You most likley would not survive the experience. And exit at close to 300 MPH with a jagged hole to exit from...Can you say swiss cheese? The extreme cold and thin air at 35-40 thousand feet....I think you have a useful time before you black out of like 8 seconds. Plus you would be so hypoxic I doubt you would be able to think straight. An accidental opening would rip the parachute to pieces, and probley break you in the process. You might wake up around 10 to 12 thousand feet."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #11 March 16, 2004 QuoteWell, I'd gear up, but only end up using it if the plane breaks apart. I'm not gonna de-pressurize a still-pressurized cabin. I'm going to go with whatever has the best chance of saving my ass. at 35000ft, a plane that's at least somewhat controlable with an engine fire beats a 500kt exit from high altitude with no oxygen. if the plane is breaking up and heading for the ground then I'm screwed anyway. getting the rig over my shoulders, threading the chest strap and getting the fuck out any way I can before I pass out sounds like a better plan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,030 #12 March 16, 2004 As far as I can tell there have only been about five accidents ever where a parachute might have made a difference. The first two were early Comets (first pressurized aircraft) that broke up in flight due to metal fatigue. Third was a JAL 747 that had the entire tailcone and most of the tail blow off due to a poor repair. Fourth was a 747 that lost a cargo door and most of the cabin above it, and fifth was the Aloha Airlines convertible 737. The rest of the in-flight breakups I know of were due to explosions, and you're not likely to survive an explosion when you're inside the bomb. BTW window breakage isn't all that bad. It's one of the contingencies aircraft designers and flight crews prepare for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #13 March 16, 2004 It's my understanding you can't open the door in flight, so exactly where are you going to exit? So I'm just hypothesizing here, but in a situation bad enough to want to bail out, I'm guessing you have about 20-40 seconds to live. What the hell are you going to do in that mount of time? (on a pane in some situation bad enough for oyu to want to get out)witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panzwami 0 #14 March 16, 2004 There was also a UAL that blew all it's hydraulic lines. Ended up crashing at Sioux City. There was a considerable amount of time where the aircraft was in level flight between hydraulic failure and crash, including a while where they were below 10k feet. Situation like that, I voted to get off the plane by any means possible. Matt ----- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #15 March 16, 2004 As long as it did not make the situation worse for everybody else I would don my gear and git the fak out... or I would finish my beer that I probably had ordered during the inflight service then place my head between my legs and kiss my @ss good bye... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clownburner 0 #16 March 16, 2004 QuoteYou most likley would not survive the experience. You are of course correct. However, going down with the plane is not a lot better, in terms of odds. I'd certainly take my chances (if I could).7CP#1 | BTR#2 | Payaso en fuego Rodriguez "I want hot chicks in my boobies!"- McBeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #17 March 16, 2004 QuoteIf the plane is breaking apart and everthing including passaengers get thrown out, I think I'll make the best of the trip down by flying to as many people as I can to see if they'd like to play tag Hey, no taunting the doomed!! I'd take the highest bidder for a Mr. Bill...with Bill's bills in MY pocket of course. Either that or I'd run up and down the aisles singing, "I have a parachute, I have a parachute.""I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 March 16, 2004 QuoteYou most likley would not survive the experience. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are of course correct. However, going down with the plane is not a lot better, in terms of odds. I'd certainly take my chances (if I could). High alti jump no O2.. bad idea.. High alti jump MEGA minus temps.. bad idea High alti high speed jump REALLY BAD idea.... Possible survival as opposed to small pieces for the flies....priceless Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #19 March 16, 2004 If it was bad enough that it seemed the plane was going to break apart and also not bad enough for me to be dead/passed out already I would put my gear on. Would suck to end up in freefall watching your rig float away ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,030 #20 March 16, 2004 >There was also a UAL that blew all it's hydraulic lines. Ended up >crashing at Sioux City. You could not have gotten out. You can't open a DC-10's doors in flight even if every flight attendant wasn't trying to disable you and the cabin wasn't pressurized. (Although people have tried.) Even if you could have done that, would you really be willing to potentially kill 184 people so you had a better chance at survival? About the only type of flight where you have a chance of an exit is when the cabin integrity is compromised and you have the altitude to try. And even then it's no sure thing - you'd be exiting from an unstable aircraft through a jagged hole with the wind coming from the wrong direction. (And that leaves off how you would get your rig on to begin with.) About the only time I'd try it is if I noticed that my piece of airplane wasn't attached to the part with wings any more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 6 #21 March 16, 2004 QuoteThere was also a UAL that blew all it's hydraulic lines. Ended up crashing at Sioux City. There was a considerable amount of time where the aircraft was in level flight between hydraulic failure and crash, including a while where they were below 10k feet. Situation like that, I voted to get off the plane by any means possible. Matt ----- United 232. Good luck getting the door open. That flight was coming in hot and fast because it couldn't extend the flaps. They manually extended the gear and touched down at over 200 knots. They did a hell of a job getting anyone to live through that experience. But again, you sure weren't gonna be able to jump from it. Not to mention your ass would be tackled by passengers and crew for making a disturbance in the back during an emergency situation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #22 March 16, 2004 Id take my chances and get out however I could. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunBobby 0 #23 March 16, 2004 QuoteUnited 232. Good luck getting the door open. That flight was coming in hot and fast because it couldn't extend the flaps. They manually extended the gear and touched down at over 200 knots. They did a hell of a job getting anyone to live through that experience. But again, you sure weren't gonna be able to jump from it. Not to mention your ass would be tackled by passengers and crew for making a disturbance in the back during an emergency situation. Roger that one. When I was in Pensacola in 1994, Captain Haynes (Captain of UAL 232) came and spoke to an assembly of all the squadrons in Training Air Wing 5 . . . hundreds and hundreds of Navy, Marine, and Air Force students and instructors alike. He took us through the entire incident, and his presentation included many, many photos. Everyone in the assembly hall was awed and moved all at the same time. I feel incredibly priveleged to have heard him speak. Amazing. Simply amazing. FunBobby Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #24 March 16, 2004 We asked that question over 40 years ago....and the concensus then was get out and track like crazy. When they find all the passengers and the wreckage in one spot, they would fin you aboit 5 miles away with a grin on whats left of your face, and they'd go nuts trying to figure out why. Bill Cole D-41 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #25 March 16, 2004 "Pardon me, you could you sign my logbook now? ...ohhh, just in case you guys don't make it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites