OldMan 0 #1 August 21, 2010 Question for old time riggers. Need info on security reserve DOM 1972. This canopy is in pristine condition and has passed all inspections and tests.It has the blank gores but no netting. the data panel say's steerable but it has no steering lines. There is a line on each each rear riser that is dyed red for about 3" from the riser connections.It has no diaper.Is it prone to inversions with no netting? After extensive research and a lot of questions I find that there is no servie life on reserves ( other than a couple of manufactuers that put a 15 yr life on their reserves) and if it is in good condition and pass's all mandated tests and inspections it can be packed,it's up to the rigger But like the man say's "There's the widow and jury thing". I would appreciate any thoughts,info or comments I can get on this issue . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #2 August 21, 2010 That steering line configuration is normal on older round reserves. Most people just steer them with rear risers. Forget about flaring round canopies. Some GQ Defense (successor to GQ Security of Calfornia) manuals state a maximum 13 or 15 year "life" for their products. The other is issue is that non-diapered rounds become far less reliable as deployment speeds go up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,434 #3 August 21, 2010 Hi Man, QuoteIt has the blank gores but no netting. That would be normal for that canopy. Quotethe data panel say's steerable but it has no steering lines. There is a line on each each rear riser that is dyed red for about 3" from the riser connections. That would be normal for that canopy. QuoteIt has no diaper. That would be normal for that canopy. QuoteIs it prone to inversions with no netting? That is 'discussable.' Some think that it would be and other do not; take your pick. In the configuration that the canopy is in is the configuration that it was originally TSO'd. Does any of this help? And I agree with Rob, JerryBaumchen PS) If you want a legal diaper put on it, contact me. I have FAA approval to install one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #4 August 21, 2010 There are several generations of improvements to round civilian emergency/reserve canopyies. You've mention some. All have mesh on the modifications to prevent inversion through the holes. All have at least a partial stow diaper, most a full stow diaper. Non have anit inversion netting. I've only seen that on military canopies. Some have further staging and control of the opening including sliders, deployment sleeves and bags, etc. I have one that I've used as a main for people wanting to make a round jump. I wouldn't pack one up as a reserve. Should a 38 year old parachute, several generations of design behind, be your last chance to live?I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER160 0 #5 August 21, 2010 Quote Non have anit inversion netting. I've only seen that on military canopies. We dont have anti inversion netting on our reserves either Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #6 August 21, 2010 I knew that. Didn't want to confuse things.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #8 August 23, 2010 QuoteShould a 38 year old parachute, several generations of design behind, be your last chance to live? I've got a couple of oldie's but goodies' and if I had to use them, I would, without fear, sure beats nothing...you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
