riddler 0 #26 March 7, 2004 Quoteshe just has to say I did something to a judge, they sign an order, and I get picked up and go through this again. Maybe you could start a log of your daily activities until the trial. Use your computer and PDA (or phone) to record every place you go and every person you are with. March 8th, 2004 8:00 - 8:30 Coffee shop (keep receipt). 8:30 - 9:00 commute to work. 9:00 - 12:00 work. Witnesses are your co-workers. 12:00-1:00 Lunch with Joe (co-worker). Try to hang out with other people as often as possible. Keep a new printout with you every day, and if they arrest you again, you'll have the papers to show the judge.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee03 0 #27 March 7, 2004 wow, this sucks! sorry it happened to you.-------- To put your life in danger from time to time ... breeds a saneness in dealing with day-to-day trivialities. --Nevil Shute, Slide Rule Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #28 March 7, 2004 QuoteTry to hang out with other people as often as possible. Keep a new printout with you every day, and if they arrest you again, you'll have the papers to show the judge. That's pretty much what I have been doing and plan to do even more vigorously. Problem is, doesn't do any good until I have a trial. During arraignment, the judge read the charges and then said, "sounds like you don't know how to let go of a relationship". I was about to say, "Your honor, actually the truth of the matter is that she is the one who can't let go and I have the voice mail messages to prove it." I got as far, "Your honor, the truth of the matter..." Then the public defender said, "Kevin, this is your public defender, this is a hearing to set bail, don't say anything about the case." And that was the only thing he said the whole time. Don't even know who the hell he was. As far as having the right to a lawyer, you do, after you are arraigned. If I had been sent to prison then they would have to let me talk to my lawyer. But they have 72 hours that they can keep me in jail awaiting arraignment. Oh, whoops, sorry, Patriot Act changed that...now they have 120 hours (5 days). I'm just glad it didn't take that long. Thanks for the support and PMs. But I didn't post this to get sympathy, although I do appreciate it. I just wanted you guys to know what can happen. If you're with someone who starts acting nutty and posessive, cut it off, quick. I did, and she begged me to give her another chance. I did that too (stupid), then when she did it again and I broke up with her again, this is the result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #29 March 7, 2004 Wonder if Martha S. got similar treatment when she was processed, or whether the vomit/urine/feces treatment is for non-celebs.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpinjackflash 0 #30 March 7, 2004 Man Phil, Vibes to you, and hang in there. I have to say, and I hate to because it's probably obvious, but you best sick your lawyer on this bitch big time. I'd counter any accusations, I'd drag her ass into court and request a court ordered psychological review for her. I'd make it known in court that she is a threat, one that must be taken seriously. If she's this nuts Phil it should be possible to gather together a truck load of people (not even connected to you or your troubles) that she has fucked with in the past. Find them, subpoena them, go after her full bore before she seriously fucks you over to the point of no repair. My cousin died in prison in 77, he was put there by the same circumstances you just noted. After a month or so, he was found hung. My first wife tried to make claims like this too, the only problem was her own parents stood up and said that ther was no way there soninlaw would do the things she was saying, I was lucky, she could've gotten me in deep shit. Family, friends and many others told her to quit lying, so, she gave up... Don't screw around with this Phil, if your lawyer doesn't know how to properly deal with this shit, get a different one... Damn man, I'm frighened for you. Good Luck and if there is anything I can do for you shout. peace, JackIt's a gas, gas, gas... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #31 March 7, 2004 Quote Wonder if Martha S. got similar treatment when she was processed, or whether the vomit/urine/feces treatment is for non-celebs. I don't know if it was true But the lack of adequate sanitation was one of Mike Jacksons major bitch's when he got busted in california and he was only in the station for 1/2 hr? All that dirty nasty stuff (body fluids) can be/is used as a weapon against the staff. Shitty job. Forgot: Go to the Dr and get a shot to prevent everything. You've been exposed R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #32 March 7, 2004 QuoteShit, Lis, make it a Long Island Ice Tea, as many as he can drink. Hell yeah... Damn, Kev, I just don't know what to say or how to help...but those messages on your answering machine have just GOT to be something...and I am in no way a legal person, but hopefully they'll slam her for false accusations once the truth comes out and she'll get to feel what you did...for a longer time... This might sound impossoble, but honestly, I would consider moving cross-country. As soon after you're cleared from this shit.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #33 March 7, 2004 What kind of experience does your lawyer have ? Is he mostly into civil stuff, or does he really know anything about criminal, and especially this kind of case ? You shouldn't have to be living in fear like this. I'd recommend you consider getting a more assertive mouthpiece. Back about twenty or so years ago, my brother got in trouble for opening fire with an assault rifle when a gang tried to break into his rather isolated house. The cops came and charged him for opening fire (the gang had fled) and of course they took his weapons away. A frien tided him over with a shotgun and pistol in case the gang returned. Anyway, his first lawyer was a complete milksop, who kept saying, "oh we can't do that" over and over. So my bro fired his ass and called the local NRA for a referral. He got a very loud bellicose and aggresive attny, who got the charges dropped and his firearms returned in really short order. It sound to me like the right kind of lawyer could get your case dropped and have psycho bitch put away in the state hospital on some meds that might do her some good. The best defense is often a strong offense. Furthermore, I'd arrange a check-in system with your lawyer whereby he or his staff go looking for you if they don't hear from you every 12 hours. Best wishes bro, maybe she'll jump off a bridge.... Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #34 March 7, 2004 Got any vacation time saved up?? Being elsewhere sounds like a good plan.. at least a few states between you and her would be an even better alibi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #35 March 7, 2004 get tot he DZ and hang out there. or book a trip to SoBe for this weekend or to the MUff Brothers Boogie the following weekend. Get the hell outta there so taht freak can't do this again, it's absurd. ANd *I* got mad today because turnpike fees went up. teehee. __ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainbo 0 #36 March 7, 2004 Dude, My heart feels for you. I went through the same shit with my ex-wife who thought she would get better during our divorce. Three times that kind of shit happened, even when I called to have her removed from my friends where I was staying when I had the restraining order against her. Charges were always dropped by the state after an investigation. But still had go through the degradation of being treated like a piece of shit by the state. Just remember that the things you do in life are always paid back somehow, good & bad. You will get your good someday even if it is hard to see at this time. She will get hers, hopefully a triple serving. Stay solid and keep your head up... RainboRainbo TheSpeedTriple - Speed is everything "Blessed are those who can give without remembering, and take without forgetting." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #37 March 7, 2004 My lawyer is good. He's been practicing criminal law since '68 and he former chair of the Criminal Division of the Philadelphia Bar and sits on the Judicial Review Commision and Judicial Appointment Review Board. He was on the rabbi Neulander defense team, a pretty famous recent murder trial. Unfortunately, there's nothing he can do until we have a hearing. That's just the way the domestic laws are in PA. Up until now it was a civil matter, so attorney's aren't even required and if you can't afford one aren't appointed. She's representing herself in the civil action. Now that it's criminal, though, he's going to file for discovery of what evidence they are using to bring the charges. Before now, didn't even know what she has concocted. But now we'll be able to find out what they'll be using in court, and since I can only imagine it's lies and fabrication, we can provide a defense for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #38 March 7, 2004 Went thru the same shit. Cops told me to hang out w/ a friend 24/7 for an alibiI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dove 0 #39 March 7, 2004 Wow, Kevin. That is about the most fucked up story I have ever read. It absolutely boggles my mind that anyone would go to such lengths to enact "revenge" upon someone they dated. And it boggles me even more that she was able to come across as sane enough for you to originally be attracted to her. it's scary - you think you know someone and then this! I'm really sorry this happened to you. And I know it's cliche but I really believe what goes around comes around. QuoteI never knew anyone could be so fucking evil. My thoughts exactly while reading the whole thing. Fall in dove. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luv2Fall 0 #40 March 7, 2004 You're in my thoughts............no one should ever have to go through this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #41 March 8, 2004 It was a real Shock to read this - First off I'm amazed at how drastically they acted on just one person's (your girlfriend's) claim - I'm amazed but sadly not suprised. Doesn't take much more than a screamer to get someone hauled off and possibly their life ruined...... Blue Skies, Man. I'm sure the truth will sift it's way to the surface here shortly - Keep the DZ.com Community posted on how you are doing!=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #42 March 8, 2004 Man, how fucked up! You have a few options, but, in reality, you cannot do anything to protect yourself. She has some kind of relationship with the DA no doubt, and I hope you have a lawyer that plays golf with the judge and knows all his or her kids b-days-that is the kind you need! I hope your legal team is able to prove she has lied to everyone and the cops do the right thing and charge her...........but you know, don't plan on it! The only thing you can do is be on your best behavior on court day! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #43 March 8, 2004 Dude, pack up some shit and take a vacation. Don't tell anybody where you're going....but make sure there are people where you go that can back you up. Come on down to Florida. I've got plenty of room if you decide to do so and need a place to crash. Go DZ hopping...I'll even show ya around all the local DZ's. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #44 March 8, 2004 QuoteThanks for the offer. I have to stay around for my job. Have a friend that lives a couple of blocks away, hopefully I can get in touch with him tomorrow and stay with him as an alibi. What sucks, though, is all an alibi is good for is the trial. Even if I have one, she just has to say I did something to a judge, they sign an order, and I get picked up and go through this again. Well, if you're at a friend's house, keep that a secret. So if the witch does swear out yet another complaint, you won't be where the cops expect you to be, when they come to get you. This isn't evading the law, it's following your lawyer's advice to "be with people". Lay low, and have an alibi by hanging out with a trusted friend, who won't be afraid to speak up on your behalf in court... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #45 March 8, 2004 Like Clay said, some of that gave me a bit of a chuckle, but damn. That really really sucks. A few of us told you she was nuts a few months ago. It really bites how someone can just make up a story (my ex-sister-in-law did it many times to my brother) and the law just has to say okay you go to jail until we find out what's going on. Good luck on the court date and let us know what happens. Glad to see you kept all those fucked up phone calls. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #46 March 8, 2004 I thought Deuce was from California. Hang tough.Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #47 March 8, 2004 Hey, Kev? Buddy, No offence - But you need to keep your mouth shut! There is a strategy that you and your counsel will need to work out - Giving away all the pieces is not a good thing. Been there - Done that - It's a bitch but you have to keep it in for a while. Only between the ones that you absolutely trust, and only what is absolutely neccessary. This is serious shit man, serious shit - don't take it lightly.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #48 March 8, 2004 Dude I'm sorry for all this sh^T you're going through. Some people are just evil. Look at it this way in a few weeks time this will be a distant memory, a story to tell your buds over a few beers. A few questions though. For the restraining order do you have to go to court to get one? If so wouldnt lying to get one be perjury? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #49 March 8, 2004 QuoteDude I'm sorry for all this sh^T you're going through. Some people are just evil. Look at it this way in a few weeks time this will be a distant memory, a story to tell your buds over a few beers. A few questions though. For the restraining order do you have to go to court to get one? If so wouldnt lying to get one be perjury? I agree this is some very serious shit so maybe the perjury thing is more serious ie Martha. We went to court & got a temporary restraining order returned two weeks later to get it made permanent. The other guy showed up with his mouth piece and the guy denied everything. The mouth piece tried to say it was us that had commited perjury in making the complaint. wanted us to pay attorney fee's etc. We kept our mouth shut the guy had to pay his own attorney fee's (we didn't have one). The court wasn't concerned (in this minor case) about who commited perjury. Just the restraining order (also denied). In Kevs situation there may be a false police report etc. More serious if the DA wants to pursue it. No win situation for Kev now just needs to minimize his loses. (32 hrs in the holiday inn) Shame it's not worth sueing someone that doesn't have any money. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #50 March 9, 2004 QuoteI thought Deuce was from California. Hang tough. He's a world traveler....he's been in county lockups around the country! Just ask him to see the video! Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
