blindfreddy 0 #1 October 12, 2010 I,ve got a Strong emergency rig with a sleeved 28' aerosport canopy in it & wondering if anyone has a packing manual for one? I've googled it & sent an e-mail to strong with no luck yet, can you help me out?, i,ve never seen anything like this before! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #2 October 12, 2010 which type of emergency rig ? don't you find what you need HERE ? Happy packing scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drjump 0 #3 October 12, 2010 I have never seen a 'sleeved' round emergency canopy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdathome 0 #4 October 12, 2010 By "sleeve", are you refering to the diaper that wraps around the base of the foded parachute? Or does it have an actual sleeve that encloses the entire parachute?Marriage is like a deck of cards. You start with two harts and a diamond only to discover you wish you had a club and a spade! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #5 October 12, 2010 Nope it has a sleeve and I service two.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #6 October 12, 2010 I service two Strong aerosports. This is a canopy that they only sold for a year or two. It has a ring of vents about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way up the canopy. Deploys in a nylon free sleeve with full line stowage on the sleeve with a pull down cover. Mine are in seats and they are the easist strong seats you'll ever do. Almost nobody at Strong knows they even made it. Unless they get some in to pack there may be NOONE there that has ever seen one. I'm not even sure Ted remembers it. Whenever I talk to their employees nobody has ever heard of it. I actually don't know if I have a copy of the manual or not. The owner may have it. I haven't serviced them in a couple of years because he hasn't had a plane. Used them in a T-6. I'll email him and see if he as the manual. After that I'll look and see if I can find it here. If you've ever packed a canopy in a sleeve then it's no big deal. But it looks like you might be new enough to have never seen a sleeve.Let me see what I can find. I don't think you'll get much help from Strong. Not because they don't want to but because they can't. BTW I've asked a LOT of riggers but I've never found one that even knew this existed let alone packed one. I also like this design alot. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #7 October 12, 2010 Strong doesn't have a manual for these on their site. I think I asked them for one once and they couldn't find a copy. It is a NO PO round in a free sleeve. They only sold it for a year or two in the mid ninties.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #8 October 12, 2010 Quote Strong doesn't have a manual for these on their site. I think I asked them for one once and they couldn't find a copy. Just musing: That brings up new issues in the argument riggers have about having to pack things according to the manufacturer's manual. While using the original manual makes sense here, in the FAA's eyes does no manufacturer's instructions available equal 'grounded' or equal 'pack any way you like'? (And this is distinguishing between a particular rigger having a manual for a particular pack job, versus what the official manual from the manufacturer is.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #9 October 12, 2010 Hi Terry, Quote BTW I've asked a LOT of riggers but I've never found one that even knew this existed let alone packed one. Put me on that list. 'That' is one strange canopy!!!!!Interesting that Strong cannot even come with a manual, though. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #10 October 12, 2010 Not that they don't have it. But they couldn't find it that day. Like I said, most of the the Strong employees I've talked to don't know they made it. Oops, almost forgot. It has a spider slider with stops lines on the suspension lines to keep it from going all the way to the skirt. And I HAVE pictures. But they're too big to attach. I'll resize them later and attach some. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #11 October 12, 2010 A little off point Terry...but didn't someone experiment with using a free-sleeve on a square a long time ago? The idea was S-folding the sleeve into the container was better than S-folding the canopy into a bag...? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blindfreddy 0 #12 October 12, 2010 My wife is the packer & has been for 20 years but she's never seen anything like this. I recall someone mentioning in a thread somewhere that they dont have pilot chutes but this one is in a paracushion 303 with a pilot chute & the spider slider is very funky I'll see if i can upload some photo's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #13 October 12, 2010 Take photos & post! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #14 October 12, 2010 I'll have a manual by end of Thursday U s. I habe photos and will try ro resize them tonight. I'm in line with the owner to get one when he's done with them.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #15 October 13, 2010 Funny thing... several resellers specifically indicate that the Strong Squadron Seat PEP are available with the 28' Aerosport canopy ... http://www.paragear.com/templates/parachute.asp?group=284&t2parent=11&parent=282&level=3 (scroll down to "Squadron") Interesting that Paragear can sell it, even when SE doesn't know they make it . JW PS - I'd like a copy of that manual/photo's when you get'er done... Always remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blindfreddy 0 #16 October 13, 2010 Photo's as promised its a little hard to see the vents in the canopy Photo 6 & 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #17 October 13, 2010 I'm curious, considering the sleeve and slider, is the canopy rated for higher speeds? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #18 October 13, 2010 Back when ZP fabric was introduced (1988 in France and 189 in the USA), several people experimented with sleeves - even mesh sleeves - to ease packing mains, but they eventually learned how to control slippery ZP fabric and we settled on d-bags. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blindfreddy 0 #19 October 13, 2010 The canopy is rated to 250 lb & 150 knots & was manufactured in 1996 assembled, stuck in a cupboard & never seen again till last week WHAT THE...? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #20 October 13, 2010 Quote The canopy is rated to 250 lb & 150 knots & was manufactured in 1996 assembled, stuck in a cupboard & never seen again till last week WHAT THE...? It happens...got a square emergency rig up in the loft that was worn once 15 years ago, and has been in a gear bag since. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #21 October 13, 2010 The squandron seat manual does not list or allow the Aerosport.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #22 October 14, 2010 I have the PDF. Too large to attach here. PM me an email address and I'll send it later tonight. Gotta run right now.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #23 October 14, 2010 Quote Too large to attach here. I have that problem too!"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blindfreddy 0 #24 October 15, 2010 Thanks for the effort councilman much appreciated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #25 November 12, 2010 Got hold of Mike SE who knows this rig. I mentioned this thread, and got this response: Quote We haven't sold one in years but as with all of our products, if someone wants one we can and will build it for them. That's why Para-gear would still have it listed as an available configuration. I've posted an owners manual for the Para-Cushions with the Aerosport canopy online on our manuals page. The direct link to the manual is: http://strongparachutes.com/Documents/PDF_Files/PCRevB.pdf Mike Rinaldi Sales Manager www.strongparachutes.com Nice folks there at SE! JW PS - For those going to PIA, we think there will be one there for folks to take a look at if you haven't see one before (like ME). Always remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
