base311 0 #26 February 18, 2004 LMMFAO @ that. Thanks. Gardner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
batbex 0 #27 February 18, 2004 There could be other reasons they don't want to do it, like Vallerina said - personal space issues, control issues, trust issues... personally there's no way in hell I'd have some guy strapped to my ass and jump out of an aeroplane - total trust in a complete stranger, and no control whatsoever - and serious invasion of personal space - aaggghhhhhh! that obviously goes for a female TM too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #28 February 18, 2004 I say chicken, for most of them. How many of these guys would prohibit their girlfriends from doing a tandem because they do not want some dude riding her ass? There are obviously some guys out there who have an honest problem with being in tight quarters with other guys. These are typically the ones who will give their male teammates a nice pat on the fanny for a job well done, or say, "let's fuck those guys" to spur on their teammates and friends. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #29 February 18, 2004 QuoteQuotea gorgeous red head strapped to him Dont we all! Soon enough dear, soon enoughMay your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antithesis 0 #30 February 18, 2004 Skydiving isn't for everybody.. I think that a lot of people will talk like they would do it.. but always find a reason to back out no matter how perfect it could be. I arranged 4 different groups of my friends at different times to go jump and every time except one they all backed out.. and the one time that we did go, It was still only a third of the people that said tht they were going to do it. What's cool though is that I still jump with two of them I travel the land, Work in the ocean, Play in the sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
streaker 0 #31 February 18, 2004 Great advice Nightingale! Unless of course they have a thing about a couple people hanging on to them until pull time. Beautiful Landings! StreakerHave a yippee ki ya day! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shari 0 #32 February 18, 2004 My TI was soooooooo cute...I didn't mind having him around!!!! Hmmm...tandem for life!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #33 February 18, 2004 Some times at DZs it is a requirement that first time jumpers do a Tandem. The number one reason for that is that it takes less time to train the person for a Tandem jump, then it does for an eight hour AFF level one jump. Why spend all that time training someone for a jump, when they don't even know if they will like skydiving or not. Do the Tandem first, then if they like it, spend the time and energy doing the AFF training. IMO, as an ex office manager of a DZ, if they aren't willing to do a Tandem first, then they aren't very interested in doing a skydive.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shari 0 #34 February 18, 2004 I agree. How can you really enjoy the freefall from 14.5 without an instructor? I felt so so safe with my TM, just because I had no idea of how I would REALLY react...like faint or something. (I smiled all the way down)!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mfrese 0 #35 February 18, 2004 OK, I guess that's the end of my "Hey, you're not homophobic, are you?" joke right before I tighten the laterals... Seriously, this is probably either a) money, or b) being chicken. I've noticed how amazing it is that people can get rid of "personal space" issues when they're sitting two feet from a plexiglass door in a plane when they're not wearing a parachute, so that's actually pretty rare. With guys that are really acting wigged out about it, I make sure to get all macho and make sure they understand it's just a job, nothing personal...in extreme cases, I'll introduce them to my wife, which seems to help both men and women relax. Either way, if they won't go tandem, let them know what their other options are... or find some friends with balls. Nah, just kidding...and for the record, my first jump was a tandem, and I had a female TI! (Thanks Beth! )Doctor I ain't gonna die, Just write me an alibi! ---- Lemmy/Slash Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #36 February 18, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuotea gorgeous red head strapped to him Dont we all! Soon enough dear, soon enough I have no plans yet to get my TM rating so that I could go tandem with my red-haired wife. Thats what you were refering to Mar, right?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #37 February 18, 2004 Yeah right, what ever you say. BTW, is your wife coming out with you next week? I was sorry I missed meeting her in Eloy.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiaKrembs 0 #38 February 18, 2004 Hey Girl... Actually Ellen @ Elsinore is a TI.... she primarily does video, but I've seen her hop in the tandem rigs on occasion - she is one bad ass canopy pilot!!! Plus just the coolest all around gal! ciao for now, g Raddest ho this side of Jersey #1 - rest in peace brother Beth lost her cherry and I missed it .... you want access to it, but you don't want to break it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #39 February 18, 2004 Na... just me...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shari 0 #40 February 18, 2004 ya know....I bet if I called some of these fellas and said they've got a hot lookin TM at the DZ....they'd still cop out. What a bunch of babies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiaKrembs 0 #41 February 18, 2004 Well, tell the boys to come on down, cuz she is quite the little hottie - just have to watch out for her b/f Doug - he's a pretty big guy (also TI @ Elisnore). Check out her staff pic from skydive Elisnore web site. Raddest ho this side of Jersey #1 - rest in peace brother Beth lost her cherry and I missed it .... you want access to it, but you don't want to break it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #42 February 18, 2004 Ok I don’t know if this will help because I am as un Homophobic as they get. But when I did my first jump the last thing on my mind was if the guy that I am strapped to is gay. Even if he was I wouldn’t care. As long as you don’t try to touch my ass were cool. I also think if the first thing on your mind when your going for your FIRST SKYDIVE is that it’s gay, you might be gay (which is totally ok) just making a point.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #43 February 18, 2004 Quoteand wants a gorgeous red head strapped to him. If he's willing to go to Wisconsin, that can probably be arranged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shari 0 #44 February 18, 2004 I dunno...maybe its because i'm a woman, but I would rather have a strong ass man guiding my freaked out self down and keeping me alive than one of us of the fairer builds!! Ya know?? NO offense to my lady pals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #45 February 18, 2004 Quotewants a gorgeous red head strapped to him. Sorry all, I don't have a tandem rating. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
countryscrub 0 #46 February 18, 2004 i ve got a few gay buddys and when they're around me in public and touch me so what ...oh my god he just bumped my elbow he must want to fuck me ...lol i mean come on guys who cares really do you freack out when your mom touches you or how about your dad maybee your grandma .oh my god that must mean my granny is lonely and wants to jump my bones....lol i mean come on ...... dont let sex rule your lives.. and face the facts guys most the gay men out there wont even think about you in that way ...were not pretty enought for them... unless of course your a metrosexuial if you are your very pretty and might want to run becouse gay guys want you ...so run run run away.... sounds kinda SILLY HUH .... personally if im about to die in an explosion and my only chance to survive is a gay man pulls mE FROM THE FIRE and has to carry me to safty ...you know what more power to him please ...fuck ill even give the brave mother fucker or should i say father fucker a hug. remember before you had sex for the first time how much fun you had when you were little playing tag and all that silly stuff that didnt give you a care in the world ...get back to that guys its a beter way to live trust me. just my thoughts if you care to agree cool if you disagree fine but hell i know what i am and nothing gonna change that not even the dreaded gay man coodies ...becouse really thats what homophobs are afraaid of _________________________________________ i used to do alot of things ....skydiving wont be one of them :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shari 0 #47 February 18, 2004 Hey Country!!!!!!! Wow!!!! I'm gonna copy this thread for my phobic friends!!! I think it may convince them that, that's really not what they are afraid of.....they just be SKEEEERED!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
countryscrub 0 #48 February 18, 2004 QuoteHey Country!!!!!!! Wow!!!! I'm gonna copy this thread for my phobic friends!!! I think it may convince them that, that's really not what they are afraid of.....they just be SKEEEERED!!! well thanks and um well you see um well TAG YOUR IT! and by saying tag that in no way shape of from does that means that i expext oral pleasure from you if you chose to play with me .... but if your offering dont think im goon a turn you down ..._________________________________________ i used to do alot of things ....skydiving wont be one of them :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #49 February 18, 2004 QuoteThese are probably the same guys that if offered the "female" option would have some objection to a "woman" taking them on a tandem. Yep. Had a guy at work that likes the talk big, so I offered to take him out and do a tandem. He didn't want to be strapped to a guy so I said, "hey no problem, you can do AFF". He came back he wanted to go out solo, didn't want 2 guys holding onto him so I kicked back, "Hey no problem, we can do SL." Then it was about the money Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shari 0 #50 February 18, 2004 Gotcha!!! In the words of Rosanne-Rosanna-Danna "if it's not one thing...it's anatha....it's ALWAYS sumthin" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites