Shari 0 #1 February 18, 2004 Several of my male friends are wanting to go jump. They know its a tandem, but, their "excuse" is "I don't want some guy strapped to my ass." I don't think there are any female tandem instructors, or many in my area. This sounds to me like a lame excuse to get out of it. I've explained to them the instructors are professionals, and you have them there so that you can safely enjoy one of the most wonderful experiences in your life. They are like "it looks like a total rush, but, no dudes on my butt, no-way." Suggestions? OR do I just continue with my little smirk just knowing they are chicken. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #2 February 18, 2004 sure... just tell them to do the AFF first jump course instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shari 0 #3 February 18, 2004 That's about a 6 - 8 hour course, right? Also, have you heard of any female tandem instructors???? My dad wants to go tandem, but - no guys... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 February 18, 2004 Sorry to jump in here, but I've got to on this one! QuoteThis sounds to me like a lame excuse to get out of it It is! That's basically all it is. I've taken guys that were extreme homo-phobic (never mind that I'm about as straight as you can get) and they still decided to go tandem with me so they could go enjoy a jump without having to go through 8-ish hours of ground school, etc. A guy I took on a jump this past year had just gotten out of prison (he's a straight guy, atleast he acted like it and he had his girlfriend with him) and I took him on 2 jumps. That's a guy that had EVERY reason to not to want to jump due to homophobia, but he went and enjoyed it anyways. So basically tell your friends to quit being so scared and just go.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #5 February 18, 2004 Where in Texas are you? There is a female Tandem instructor at Skydive Dallas. If you go there, her name is Mandy. Personally, I think that those guys have serious homophobic issues they need to deal with, or are not comfortable with their own sexuality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #6 February 18, 2004 I can tell you there's none out here at Perris or Elsinore. Female TIs aren't very common, even less so than female AFF Is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
batbex 0 #7 February 18, 2004 I havne't been jumping that long - but I've met two female tandem instructors - the nearest one to you would be Northern California! They could do a static line - no freefall really, but they'd be going out on their own. Some guys really just are that homophobic, and actually are not being chicken - but if you focus on telling them they're being a chicken and wuss-pants girly girl - they should break and have to prove their 'manliness' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shari 0 #8 February 18, 2004 I'm in the Houston area. When I first did this....everybody said they would go with me - I had like 10 people ready to go...then, "oh, uh, a guy on my back, and you know the other excuses." I hate that! Now, the guy fresh out of prison!!! That really is an example I can use to these folks!!! As far as security with their sexuality...um one of the fellas is my dad...he's kinda "old school" and wants a gorgeous red head strapped to him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #9 February 18, 2004 Quote"I don't want some guy strapped to my ass." I like my personal space. I didn't really want to either (errr...actually...I didn't. I did sl.). I felt really awkward having to straddle someone and being straddled by strangers, too. Of course, that's all been changed, but I can understand why some people really don't want their personal bubble invaded.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #10 February 18, 2004 CHICKEN homophobia can not be a reason for that. Unless they consider, lets say a footballers pack like a bunch of gays touching their asses etc... (BTW I think the ARE wusses, cause they need all these protections at least rugbymen, which are real men, don't need all these protective gear) Oh and by the way, we have a female AFF instructor at our DZ (and a charming one), but it might be a long distance for them to cross the pond and jump in our Swiss mountainsscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #11 February 18, 2004 Quotea gorgeous red head strapped to him Dont we all! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #12 February 18, 2004 QuoteI'm in the Houston area. When I first did this....everybody said they would go with me - I had like 10 people ready to go...then, "oh, uh, a guy on my back, and you know the other excuses." I hate that! Now, the guy fresh out of prison!!! That really is an example I can use to these folks!!! As far as security with their sexuality...um one of the fellas is my dad...he's kinda "old school" and wants a gorgeous red head strapped to him. They sound like chickens to me. Ask them what they are worried about, the TI liking them, or them liking the TI? If you find a gorgeous redhead, send her my way! Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luv2Fall 0 #13 February 18, 2004 Fried, baked or roasted? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #14 February 18, 2004 What, are they a bunch of dorky highschool kids?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shari 0 #15 February 18, 2004 No...the ages range from 20 to 60 - same comments. And no they aren't ALL hillbillies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #16 February 18, 2004 I agree with Nightingale. . .Just offer them the AFF alternative. (or S/L if it is available) If they still don't go for it then you KNOW they are chicken. . .my very first jump out of a plane was AFF level 1. I was just afraid of doing something stupid and killing me and my TM. . .I figured my instructors had a better chance of surviving if I did AFF. . .sure glad I did cause now I LOVE jumping and couldn't imagine not doing this. . . Oh, and print this thread for those big guys and let them see how many CHICKS love to play in the sky. . .it will convince some of them. . .________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #17 February 18, 2004 I'd tell 'em Kinsey has conducted studies that prove that kind of reaction is a manifestation of ones fear of their own sexuality. Either that or they're chicken-shit - and if so, they have smaller cajones than limp wristed fags who skydive. That should get them in the air Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdwhalen 0 #18 February 18, 2004 Tell him not to worry about jumping with a male instructor. He's probably going to be sitting between a guys legs in the jump plane on the way up anyway and will probably have another guy sitting between his legs. He's just going to have to get over it."I have magic buttons ;)." skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightjumps 1 #19 February 18, 2004 These are probably the same guys that if offered the "female" option would have some objection to a "woman" taking them on a tandem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #20 February 18, 2004 Maybe I'm being too serious or analyzing the situation too much (I do that a lot, drives People Nuts), but maybe this is his macho way of telling you that maybe he can't afford it at this time.=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shari 0 #21 February 18, 2004 You know what???? I bet you are completely right on that one!!!! Chicken anyone??? I guess I'll just have to make friends at the DZ rather than influencing my current friends into the sport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red_Skydiver 0 #22 February 18, 2004 QuoteQuotea gorgeous red head strapped to him Dont we all! Red, brown, blond, black, blue, pink, green........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #23 February 18, 2004 QuoteI guess I'll just have to make friends at the DZ rather than influencing my current friends into the sport. This is usually the way it goes. . .most of the time. My whuffo friends think I am nuts (well, one friend wants to jump but is over the weight limit. . .I have turned him on to Body for Life to get lean and fit) but I don't care. . .I just see less of them because I spend more time at the DZ. . .________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #24 February 18, 2004 Hey, let them read this thread. Maybe they'll realize that it's not a matter of homophobia; they're just wrong. I said that they must be highschool kids because that's what their state of mind sounds like. It's like boys who are afraid to take a shower after P.E. class. But, if they do come and do a tandem. Be sure to put them in a pink jumpsuit and have the TM act like he's FLAMING."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #25 February 18, 2004 QuoteChicken anyone??? Maybe they are too scared to jump. This sport isn't for everyone... that's not a bad thing imho. QuoteI guess I'll just have to make friends at the DZ rather than influencing my current friends into the sport I gave up on being a skydiving evangelist years ago. Those who are interested enough will do it... And my skydiver friends are way more fun than my whuffo friends anyway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
