lawrocket 3 #26 February 2, 2004 For the best example of how it works, try watching a televised version of "Scarface" with Al Pacino. I remember several years back watching it, and laughing hysterically at the edits and dubs put on the show. The budget just for the editing must have exceeded the editing budget for the theater version. Yeah, these regulations are a bit extensive. "But it's always been that way." Also, note that the FCC is under the Executive Branch. Therefore, it is headed by political appointees of the President. So, look back and see that, despite the appointment process, it's always been pretty hard on people broadcasting, like Howard Stern in 1995. Heh heh. I said, "hard on.' My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #27 February 2, 2004 QuoteQuoteWhy is that such a big deal over there? In Europe (most) people are ok with nudity and don't make a big deal of it It's ridiculus....If I want to be topless at a beach I should be allowed to do so. Men can walk around without their shirts on and I can't because my breasts are considered "obscene." Actually, that is not necessarily true. If you want to be more free, then you can choose to go to a nude beach. There are clothing-optional beaches here in the US, too. While in Europe, I have been to topless beaches on the Mediterranean, but I wasn't topless myself. (I was with my older brother who would have gladly gauged out everyone's eyes if I was.) I wasn't considered any less sexual with or without my top, and men seemed just as attracted to me in Europe as in the US. If I were to go back on my own now, which I will probably soon because it's been a while; then, I would not feel "objectified" if I laid out topless (or not) there. I don't think that anyone would give a flying whatever if I ran around without a top in Europe. I remember the women sitting around eating lunch without tops, etc. It was NOT sexual. Also, the women's breasts were not like here in S. California, they were actually NATURAL (real...lol!) and usually smallish. (I think that they looked great!) Also, have you ever been to any hot springs, MissKriss? I went to one frequented by climbers, and I took off everything. My BF and I were alone at first...VERY NICE and serene. (Sadly, a drunk jerk came and was gawking at me while I got out) I also saw a family enjoying the springs in suits. It's fine either way. I have to return because my experience was beautiful and relaxing for the most part. Maybe you should look into more clothing optional places in the US, MissKriss. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites julesey 0 #28 February 2, 2004 It is funny we are hearing all the grief over Janet Jackson's breast shown for a split second but on ER the other night they showed an 80 yo womans boobs. Noone cares about that!! "I know it's tuna. But it says chicken. By the sea." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skreamer 1 #29 February 2, 2004 QuoteShit Piss Fuck Cunt Cocksucker Mother-fucker Tits OK, now Blink 182 'Family Reunion' makes a whole lotta sense! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skreamer 1 #30 February 2, 2004 QuoteJanet Jackson's breast shown for a split second but on ER the other night they showed an 80 yo womans boobs Did you see Janet Jackson in the ER room with the old lady? Did you see the 80 year old lady on stage with Janet and JT? Co-incidence? I think not... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #31 February 2, 2004 QuoteApparently biggest thing currently in US is that a tit was shown in TV program. For one thing, it was done in a venue where no one expected it to be done. If it had happened during an R-rated movie, it wouldn't be a problem. But instead, it happened at a G-rated football game. And the controversy has more to do with *how* it was done, rather than *what* was done. I wouldn't want young males growing up thinking that it is "cool" to rip a woman's clothes off in public, nor would I want young girls growing up thinking that they should have to submit to such behavior. It's a bad example, and it was done in front of millions of children. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites julesey 0 #32 February 2, 2004 Yow! Never thought of it that way. "I know it's tuna. But it says chicken. By the sea." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #33 February 2, 2004 QuoteFor one thing, it was done in a venue where no one expected it to be done. If it had happened during an R-rated movie, it wouldn't be a problem. But instead, it happened at a G-rated football game. And the controversy has more to do with *how* it was done, rather than *what* was done. I wouldn't want young males growing up thinking that it is "cool" to rip a woman's clothes off in public, nor would I want young girls growing up thinking that they should have to submit to such behavior. It's a bad example, and it was done in front of millions of children. And obviously is completely different from showing someone getting shot during the news. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JJohnson 0 #34 February 2, 2004 I'd love for you to be able to legally walk around with those obscene breats out...heck, break the law, we won't tell!JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kramer 0 #35 February 2, 2004 QuoteAmerica is twisted sometimes... Sometimes??? -Kramer The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites misskriss 0 #36 February 2, 2004 QuoteMaybe you should look into more clothing optional places in the US, MissKriss. Good luck! I haven't been to the hot springs but would love to try it out. I've always wanted to go and I'm not sure how i feel about clothing optional places. I' m not a nudist or a naturalist. If I'm just at the beach in a remote area (because of the uproar it would cause at a public beach), then I would like to be able to be topless to get sun on my boobies..lol I just don't like the idea of my breasts being considered offensive. Men don't have to cover up theirs. The sole purpose of my breasts biologically was/is to feed my children. They are basically a food source. All three of my kids came home from school today and the big talk was Janet Jackson's boob. I understand that there is definitely a time and a place for nudity. It's just such a hypocrisy here in the states I think. We sell sex everywhere you look....tv, magazines, etc... but a pair of breasts on a beach is offensive. Just irritates me is all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,027 #37 February 2, 2004 Quote The sole purpose of my breasts biologically was/is to feed my children. They are basically a food source. Not the sole purpose - most female mammals have insignificant breasts except when suckling. Human adult females are very unusual in that they have well developed breasts even when not suckling. So they must have another function. I suspect it's as a sexual attractant (works with me).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites misskriss 0 #38 February 2, 2004 yeah, yeah......well I knew that too. However, I was trying to deviate from the sexual part.. edit.. and I was referring to my breasts.. I nursed three children..Probably lactated a total of 5 years (give or take a year) combined. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Malfunction 0 #39 February 2, 2004 Quotejust don't like the idea of my breasts being considered offensive. Men don't have to cover up theirs and some men's boobies are FAR MORE OFFENSIVE than most women's... IMHO I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VanillaSkyGirl 6 #40 February 2, 2004 QuoteI haven't been to the hot springs but would love to try it out. I've always wanted to go and I'm not sure how i feel about clothing optional places. I' m not a nudist or a naturalist. Me neither, but if you are at the hot springs, then it seems "right" to be natural and free. It did for me, and I am definitely a pretty conservative woman. Personally, I would never be topless on a non-clothing-optional beach in the US because I think that people would freak out. I wouldn't be comfortable with all that attention. Misskriss, maybe you can lay out topless in the privacy of your home or a tanning bed. That would still help you get the tan that you desire without all the "drama". Honestly, though, the US is not so bad about showing nudity. I think that showing too much bottom in Europe is almost the same as too much breast in the US. It is just what we are used to or not used to as a society. I find nothing wrong with that. Like I said, we have clothing-optional alternatives. Also, I think that clothing and/or nudity is all about comfort. I have been nude in hot springs and drawn countless nudes, but, at times, I don't even feel comfortable with the kind-of attention that a harmless bikini top attracts. (That's why I don't wear one to the DZ.) It's all about how comfortable that I feel at any given moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites misskriss 0 #41 February 2, 2004 Quotemaybe you can lay out topless in the privacy of your home or a tanning bed. That would still help you get the tan that you desire without all the "drama". I do that in my backyard from time to time and will never do it on a beach in the US because of the drama it would cause. It's just the principle of the whole thing that bothers me. QuoteI've always wanted to go and I'm not sure how i feel about clothing optional places. I' m not a nudist or a naturalist. When I wrote that.....I meant that I always wanted to go to the hot springs not go to the "nudist" beaches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CornishChris 5 #42 February 2, 2004 If anyone is interested they showed the shot over and over on the news here in Australia. It was a nice breast. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Racenic 0 #43 February 2, 2004 What about the fact that it's ok to show commercials for "Erectile Dysfunction" But not to show a breast. Have you tried to explain it to an eight year old when they ask what is Erectile Dysfunction???? Seeing a bare breast, boob, tit... is more natural and easier to explain. So tell me once again, what is it thats free in this country..?? Nick Nick D The key to Immortality is- first living a life worth remembering” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites misskriss 0 #44 February 2, 2004 That's exactly what I'm talking about... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diverdriver 5 #45 February 2, 2004 QuoteSo tell me once again, what is it thats free in this country..?? Nick Nothing. Nothing is free. There's always a cost. Always. [/sarcasm] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #46 February 2, 2004 QuoteAlso, I think that clothing and/or nudity is all about comfort. I have been nude in hot springs We actually have several very nice hot springs that I go to up here and they are clothing optional.. there is also a couple clothing optional beaches down along the Columbia River. And a couple places I have heard about up here as well. Most are usually fairly busy in summer but this time of year very few people go to the hot springs. As long as people are respectful its not bad.. but there always seems to be some leering assbite that spoils it for everyone. That I ascribe to the stupid attitudes that so many get because of the puritanical views in this country making them think it is so highly arousing because its so shamefull and sinfull.. just because someone does not have clothing on... that must mean its sexual... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sdgregory 0 #47 February 3, 2004 I'm sorry but I did not need to see that, while sitting on the couch with my children. I do not have a problem showing it, but there needs to be a warning for those of us who do not want our children seeing that crap. That is the problem I have with it. Luckily, my son and I were making funny faces at each other at the time and so we did not see it. My wife and daughters did however and they were a little shocked. I am sure it is unpopular to not want your kids to see this nowadays but I don't give rip. It should not have been done, or it should have had a warning. But no, then the shock factor would not have benn there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydyvr 0 #48 February 3, 2004 QuoteSo tell me once again, what is it thats free in this country..?? Apparently, parents are no longer free to determine what their children watch on television. Believe it or not, many millions of Americans don't have a permissive attitude when it comes to their children and public nudity (or violence, or profanity, or numerous other subjects). And parents have a right to feel that way, and that right should be respected. CBS, MTV, Janet, or whoever else is behind the boobie baring (and other perverse sexual imagery during the show) are simply shoving the beliefs of one sector of society down the throats of another. Happens all the time, but this one sucks more than usual due to the venue. Some people pitch a fit when it's a Christian doing the shoving, but those same people think it's just fine going the other way. Strange. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #49 February 3, 2004 Well, since this is a forum of skydivers, you're kinda preaching to the choir here. We have right wingers and left wingers on this forum, but you might have noticed: We're ALL very "Pro-Boobie"!! Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PeteH 0 #50 February 3, 2004 QuoteI'm sorry but I did not need to see that, while sitting on the couch with my children. I do not have a problem showing it, but there needs to be a warning for those of us who do not want our children seeing that crap. That is the problem I have with it. You call it crap 'cos there was a tit out? It's ok to show some britney spears simulating masturbation on MTV, 'cos her tits are covered. Or some rap videos with 20 girls shaking their asses in front of camera. I don't see why titless MTV is ok, but it's porn and dangerous for children when you see a nipple for 2 seconds. To me TV is mostly crap, but I don't want it to be banned. I'm free to do something better. Quote Luckily, my son and I were making funny faces at each other at the time and so we did not see it. My wife and daughters did however and they were a little shocked. If your wife and daughters were shocked, that's because the society teaches you to be shocked about nudity. You teach it to your daughters too while trying to protect them from nudity and acting like it might harm them. If they are small children, they'll see how you react and follow your way. If you don't react at all, then they'll do the same. Quote I am sure it is unpopular to not want your kids to see this nowadays but I don't give rip. It should not have been done, or it should have had a warning. But no, then the shock factor would not have benn there.[I The point many people already noticed was that why is it ok to show violence on TV but nudity is big no-no? Maybe the reason they did it was to start conversation about censorship in America. I doubt it, since it was MTV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
julesey 0 #28 February 2, 2004 It is funny we are hearing all the grief over Janet Jackson's breast shown for a split second but on ER the other night they showed an 80 yo womans boobs. Noone cares about that!! "I know it's tuna. But it says chicken. By the sea." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #29 February 2, 2004 QuoteShit Piss Fuck Cunt Cocksucker Mother-fucker Tits OK, now Blink 182 'Family Reunion' makes a whole lotta sense! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #30 February 2, 2004 QuoteJanet Jackson's breast shown for a split second but on ER the other night they showed an 80 yo womans boobs Did you see Janet Jackson in the ER room with the old lady? Did you see the 80 year old lady on stage with Janet and JT? Co-incidence? I think not... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #31 February 2, 2004 QuoteApparently biggest thing currently in US is that a tit was shown in TV program. For one thing, it was done in a venue where no one expected it to be done. If it had happened during an R-rated movie, it wouldn't be a problem. But instead, it happened at a G-rated football game. And the controversy has more to do with *how* it was done, rather than *what* was done. I wouldn't want young males growing up thinking that it is "cool" to rip a woman's clothes off in public, nor would I want young girls growing up thinking that they should have to submit to such behavior. It's a bad example, and it was done in front of millions of children. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
julesey 0 #32 February 2, 2004 Yow! Never thought of it that way. "I know it's tuna. But it says chicken. By the sea." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #33 February 2, 2004 QuoteFor one thing, it was done in a venue where no one expected it to be done. If it had happened during an R-rated movie, it wouldn't be a problem. But instead, it happened at a G-rated football game. And the controversy has more to do with *how* it was done, rather than *what* was done. I wouldn't want young males growing up thinking that it is "cool" to rip a woman's clothes off in public, nor would I want young girls growing up thinking that they should have to submit to such behavior. It's a bad example, and it was done in front of millions of children. And obviously is completely different from showing someone getting shot during the news. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJohnson 0 #34 February 2, 2004 I'd love for you to be able to legally walk around with those obscene breats out...heck, break the law, we won't tell!JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #35 February 2, 2004 QuoteAmerica is twisted sometimes... Sometimes??? -Kramer The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #36 February 2, 2004 QuoteMaybe you should look into more clothing optional places in the US, MissKriss. Good luck! I haven't been to the hot springs but would love to try it out. I've always wanted to go and I'm not sure how i feel about clothing optional places. I' m not a nudist or a naturalist. If I'm just at the beach in a remote area (because of the uproar it would cause at a public beach), then I would like to be able to be topless to get sun on my boobies..lol I just don't like the idea of my breasts being considered offensive. Men don't have to cover up theirs. The sole purpose of my breasts biologically was/is to feed my children. They are basically a food source. All three of my kids came home from school today and the big talk was Janet Jackson's boob. I understand that there is definitely a time and a place for nudity. It's just such a hypocrisy here in the states I think. We sell sex everywhere you look....tv, magazines, etc... but a pair of breasts on a beach is offensive. Just irritates me is all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #37 February 2, 2004 Quote The sole purpose of my breasts biologically was/is to feed my children. They are basically a food source. Not the sole purpose - most female mammals have insignificant breasts except when suckling. Human adult females are very unusual in that they have well developed breasts even when not suckling. So they must have another function. I suspect it's as a sexual attractant (works with me).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #38 February 2, 2004 yeah, yeah......well I knew that too. However, I was trying to deviate from the sexual part.. edit.. and I was referring to my breasts.. I nursed three children..Probably lactated a total of 5 years (give or take a year) combined. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malfunction 0 #39 February 2, 2004 Quotejust don't like the idea of my breasts being considered offensive. Men don't have to cover up theirs and some men's boobies are FAR MORE OFFENSIVE than most women's... IMHO I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #40 February 2, 2004 QuoteI haven't been to the hot springs but would love to try it out. I've always wanted to go and I'm not sure how i feel about clothing optional places. I' m not a nudist or a naturalist. Me neither, but if you are at the hot springs, then it seems "right" to be natural and free. It did for me, and I am definitely a pretty conservative woman. Personally, I would never be topless on a non-clothing-optional beach in the US because I think that people would freak out. I wouldn't be comfortable with all that attention. Misskriss, maybe you can lay out topless in the privacy of your home or a tanning bed. That would still help you get the tan that you desire without all the "drama". Honestly, though, the US is not so bad about showing nudity. I think that showing too much bottom in Europe is almost the same as too much breast in the US. It is just what we are used to or not used to as a society. I find nothing wrong with that. Like I said, we have clothing-optional alternatives. Also, I think that clothing and/or nudity is all about comfort. I have been nude in hot springs and drawn countless nudes, but, at times, I don't even feel comfortable with the kind-of attention that a harmless bikini top attracts. (That's why I don't wear one to the DZ.) It's all about how comfortable that I feel at any given moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #41 February 2, 2004 Quotemaybe you can lay out topless in the privacy of your home or a tanning bed. That would still help you get the tan that you desire without all the "drama". I do that in my backyard from time to time and will never do it on a beach in the US because of the drama it would cause. It's just the principle of the whole thing that bothers me. QuoteI've always wanted to go and I'm not sure how i feel about clothing optional places. I' m not a nudist or a naturalist. When I wrote that.....I meant that I always wanted to go to the hot springs not go to the "nudist" beaches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CornishChris 5 #42 February 2, 2004 If anyone is interested they showed the shot over and over on the news here in Australia. It was a nice breast. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Racenic 0 #43 February 2, 2004 What about the fact that it's ok to show commercials for "Erectile Dysfunction" But not to show a breast. Have you tried to explain it to an eight year old when they ask what is Erectile Dysfunction???? Seeing a bare breast, boob, tit... is more natural and easier to explain. So tell me once again, what is it thats free in this country..?? Nick Nick D The key to Immortality is- first living a life worth remembering” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites misskriss 0 #44 February 2, 2004 That's exactly what I'm talking about... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diverdriver 5 #45 February 2, 2004 QuoteSo tell me once again, what is it thats free in this country..?? Nick Nothing. Nothing is free. There's always a cost. Always. [/sarcasm] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #46 February 2, 2004 QuoteAlso, I think that clothing and/or nudity is all about comfort. I have been nude in hot springs We actually have several very nice hot springs that I go to up here and they are clothing optional.. there is also a couple clothing optional beaches down along the Columbia River. And a couple places I have heard about up here as well. Most are usually fairly busy in summer but this time of year very few people go to the hot springs. As long as people are respectful its not bad.. but there always seems to be some leering assbite that spoils it for everyone. That I ascribe to the stupid attitudes that so many get because of the puritanical views in this country making them think it is so highly arousing because its so shamefull and sinfull.. just because someone does not have clothing on... that must mean its sexual... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sdgregory 0 #47 February 3, 2004 I'm sorry but I did not need to see that, while sitting on the couch with my children. I do not have a problem showing it, but there needs to be a warning for those of us who do not want our children seeing that crap. That is the problem I have with it. Luckily, my son and I were making funny faces at each other at the time and so we did not see it. My wife and daughters did however and they were a little shocked. I am sure it is unpopular to not want your kids to see this nowadays but I don't give rip. It should not have been done, or it should have had a warning. But no, then the shock factor would not have benn there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydyvr 0 #48 February 3, 2004 QuoteSo tell me once again, what is it thats free in this country..?? Apparently, parents are no longer free to determine what their children watch on television. Believe it or not, many millions of Americans don't have a permissive attitude when it comes to their children and public nudity (or violence, or profanity, or numerous other subjects). And parents have a right to feel that way, and that right should be respected. CBS, MTV, Janet, or whoever else is behind the boobie baring (and other perverse sexual imagery during the show) are simply shoving the beliefs of one sector of society down the throats of another. Happens all the time, but this one sucks more than usual due to the venue. Some people pitch a fit when it's a Christian doing the shoving, but those same people think it's just fine going the other way. Strange. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #49 February 3, 2004 Well, since this is a forum of skydivers, you're kinda preaching to the choir here. We have right wingers and left wingers on this forum, but you might have noticed: We're ALL very "Pro-Boobie"!! Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PeteH 0 #50 February 3, 2004 QuoteI'm sorry but I did not need to see that, while sitting on the couch with my children. I do not have a problem showing it, but there needs to be a warning for those of us who do not want our children seeing that crap. That is the problem I have with it. You call it crap 'cos there was a tit out? It's ok to show some britney spears simulating masturbation on MTV, 'cos her tits are covered. Or some rap videos with 20 girls shaking their asses in front of camera. I don't see why titless MTV is ok, but it's porn and dangerous for children when you see a nipple for 2 seconds. To me TV is mostly crap, but I don't want it to be banned. I'm free to do something better. Quote Luckily, my son and I were making funny faces at each other at the time and so we did not see it. My wife and daughters did however and they were a little shocked. If your wife and daughters were shocked, that's because the society teaches you to be shocked about nudity. You teach it to your daughters too while trying to protect them from nudity and acting like it might harm them. If they are small children, they'll see how you react and follow your way. If you don't react at all, then they'll do the same. Quote I am sure it is unpopular to not want your kids to see this nowadays but I don't give rip. It should not have been done, or it should have had a warning. But no, then the shock factor would not have benn there.[I The point many people already noticed was that why is it ok to show violence on TV but nudity is big no-no? Maybe the reason they did it was to start conversation about censorship in America. I doubt it, since it was MTV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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CornishChris 5 #42 February 2, 2004 If anyone is interested they showed the shot over and over on the news here in Australia. It was a nice breast. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racenic 0 #43 February 2, 2004 What about the fact that it's ok to show commercials for "Erectile Dysfunction" But not to show a breast. Have you tried to explain it to an eight year old when they ask what is Erectile Dysfunction???? Seeing a bare breast, boob, tit... is more natural and easier to explain. So tell me once again, what is it thats free in this country..?? Nick Nick D The key to Immortality is- first living a life worth remembering” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #44 February 2, 2004 That's exactly what I'm talking about... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #45 February 2, 2004 QuoteSo tell me once again, what is it thats free in this country..?? Nick Nothing. Nothing is free. There's always a cost. Always. [/sarcasm] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #46 February 2, 2004 QuoteAlso, I think that clothing and/or nudity is all about comfort. I have been nude in hot springs We actually have several very nice hot springs that I go to up here and they are clothing optional.. there is also a couple clothing optional beaches down along the Columbia River. And a couple places I have heard about up here as well. Most are usually fairly busy in summer but this time of year very few people go to the hot springs. As long as people are respectful its not bad.. but there always seems to be some leering assbite that spoils it for everyone. That I ascribe to the stupid attitudes that so many get because of the puritanical views in this country making them think it is so highly arousing because its so shamefull and sinfull.. just because someone does not have clothing on... that must mean its sexual... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdgregory 0 #47 February 3, 2004 I'm sorry but I did not need to see that, while sitting on the couch with my children. I do not have a problem showing it, but there needs to be a warning for those of us who do not want our children seeing that crap. That is the problem I have with it. Luckily, my son and I were making funny faces at each other at the time and so we did not see it. My wife and daughters did however and they were a little shocked. I am sure it is unpopular to not want your kids to see this nowadays but I don't give rip. It should not have been done, or it should have had a warning. But no, then the shock factor would not have benn there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #48 February 3, 2004 QuoteSo tell me once again, what is it thats free in this country..?? Apparently, parents are no longer free to determine what their children watch on television. Believe it or not, many millions of Americans don't have a permissive attitude when it comes to their children and public nudity (or violence, or profanity, or numerous other subjects). And parents have a right to feel that way, and that right should be respected. CBS, MTV, Janet, or whoever else is behind the boobie baring (and other perverse sexual imagery during the show) are simply shoving the beliefs of one sector of society down the throats of another. Happens all the time, but this one sucks more than usual due to the venue. Some people pitch a fit when it's a Christian doing the shoving, but those same people think it's just fine going the other way. Strange. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #49 February 3, 2004 Well, since this is a forum of skydivers, you're kinda preaching to the choir here. We have right wingers and left wingers on this forum, but you might have noticed: We're ALL very "Pro-Boobie"!! Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteH 0 #50 February 3, 2004 QuoteI'm sorry but I did not need to see that, while sitting on the couch with my children. I do not have a problem showing it, but there needs to be a warning for those of us who do not want our children seeing that crap. That is the problem I have with it. You call it crap 'cos there was a tit out? It's ok to show some britney spears simulating masturbation on MTV, 'cos her tits are covered. Or some rap videos with 20 girls shaking their asses in front of camera. I don't see why titless MTV is ok, but it's porn and dangerous for children when you see a nipple for 2 seconds. To me TV is mostly crap, but I don't want it to be banned. I'm free to do something better. Quote Luckily, my son and I were making funny faces at each other at the time and so we did not see it. My wife and daughters did however and they were a little shocked. If your wife and daughters were shocked, that's because the society teaches you to be shocked about nudity. You teach it to your daughters too while trying to protect them from nudity and acting like it might harm them. If they are small children, they'll see how you react and follow your way. If you don't react at all, then they'll do the same. Quote I am sure it is unpopular to not want your kids to see this nowadays but I don't give rip. It should not have been done, or it should have had a warning. But no, then the shock factor would not have benn there.[I The point many people already noticed was that why is it ok to show violence on TV but nudity is big no-no? Maybe the reason they did it was to start conversation about censorship in America. I doubt it, since it was MTV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
