Packed line-over...

[fcajump 164]

I thought about asking this privately, but thought someone else might benefit from the discussion.

When PRO packing first came out, I heard that the danger was that one "could easily pack a line-over". So I flat packed for 10 years until I got my first ZP.

Then I learned to PRO pack, and was shown some tips along the way that aid in one way or another. But mostly I keep doing what I always did, hoping to get what I've always gotten... (OK its not always pretty, but its always worked well )

However, the one thing I've never seen (knock wood), is what the bad thing(s) is (are) that causes a line over in a PRO pack. And (knock wood), I've yet to do that bad thing...

So... esplain!!! Several gray hairs out there say that they know the wrong thing when they see it... So, how can we see the wrong thing when it is right there in front of us... what are the rest of us lookin' for...



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JW

Always remember that some clouds are harder than others...

[likestojump 3]

I may not have any gray hair, but a guy with gray hair did explain something to me once :)

When PRO packing, some people like to roll their cocoon really really tight. What that may cause is for the steering lines to shift (or rather be pulled)away from the center of the packjob, and thus be more likely to get a line over.

makes sense to me :)

[petejones45 0]

+1

Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES!

[VTmotoMike08 0]

Always heard that failure to clear the stabilizer panels could lead to a line over. Pretty easy to not do that.

[muff528 3]

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Always heard that failure to clear the stabilizer panels could lead to a line over. Pretty easy to not do that.

Clear the stabilizers. But more important, control the lines (especially the brake lines) when you are rolling the tail. Just make sure they don't come around to the front when you're pulling the fabric around. (I've propacked 2 lineovers while packing in the wind.)

[petejones45 0]

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Clear the stabilizers. But more important, control the lines (especially the brake lines) when you are rolling the tail. Just make sure they don't come around to the front when you're pulling the fabric around. (I've propacked 2 lineovers while packing in the wind.)

If you have to pack in the wind the rule of thumb is to pack into the wind

Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES!

[mark 107]

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Always heard that failure to clear the stabilizer panels could lead to a line over. Pretty easy to not do that.

During inflation, the stabilizer panels are first pressurized inward. Obviously, it doesn't hurt to clear them to the outside, but it doesn't make any difference as to whether you get a line-over.

Mark

[irishrigger 32]

for pro packing there are a couple simple rules,and if you break them than more than likely you will have an interesting opening.
1.first make sure that when you pro pack that your risers are even.
2.do a line check to make sure the canopy is clear of twists.
3.keep all lines in the centre of the pack job,material to the outside.
4.make sure slider is set correctly.
5.dont disturb the lines as you bring the tail up and around.
6.dont push the nose all the way in,it only allows to slip the lines around to the front.
7.place gently on the ground! dont disturb all the good work you have done by slamming it on the ground.
8.make sure you do a nice fold into the bag,and close the bag as much as possible,dont have to much canopy outside.
9.have proper bungees,replace any worn or damaged ones immediatley
10.make sure you have a good secure line stowage.i always double bungee all of my lines.

follow those 10,and you should be all good to go.
break any of them,and you could look at a potentially interesting opening.

rodger

[base283 0]

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If you have to pack in the wind the rule of thumb is to pack into the wind

I disagree. This position will blow the steering lines around the pack job.
Take care,
space

[kellja2001 0]

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for pro packing there are a couple simple rules,and if you break them than more than likely you will have an interesting opening.

Not saying you're wrong, but I would like to clarify a couple of these:

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1.first make sure that when you pro pack that your risers are even.
2.do a line check to make sure the canopy is clear of twists.
3.keep all lines in the centre of the pack job,material to the outside.
4.make sure slider is set correctly.
5.dont disturb the lines as you bring the tail up and around.
7.place gently on the ground! dont disturb all the good work you have done by slamming it on the ground.
8.make sure you do a nice fold into the bag,and close the bag as much as possible,dont have to much canopy outside.
9.have proper bungees,replace any worn or damaged ones immediatley

I agree with.

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6.dont push the nose all the way in,it only allows to slip the lines around to the front.

If you're careful, surely this won't cause a problem?

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10.make sure you have a good secure line stowage.i always double bungee all of my lines.

I been recommended against double stowing mouthlocks...

or tube stows...

but I appreciate you used the word "bungee"...

[matthewcline 0]

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If you have to pack in the wind the rule of thumb is to pack into the wind

I disagree. This position will blow the steering lines around the pack job.
Take care,
space

This is 'cause folks don't like the canopy inflating on them during packing. With the smaller parachutes these days you can pack in darn near any direction.

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

[in2jumping 0]

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I thought about asking this privately, but thought someone else might benefit from the discussion.

When PRO packing first came out, I heard that the danger was that one "could easily pack a line-over". So I flat packed for 10 years until I got my first ZP.

Then I learned to PRO pack, and was shown some tips along the way that aid in one way or another. But mostly I keep doing what I always did, hoping to get what I've always gotten... (OK its not always pretty, but its always worked well )

However, the one thing I've never seen (knock wood), is what the bad thing(s) is (are) that causes a line over in a PRO pack. And (knock wood), I've yet to do that bad thing...

So... esplain!!! Several gray hairs out there say that they know the wrong thing when they see it... So, how can we see the wrong thing when it is right there in front of us... what are the rest of us lookin' for...



- please fill in this gap -



JW

What I was taught was when grabbing the center of the tail and then bringing each side of the tail to the front for rolling. Lift and use your knee to ensure that none of the tail or D lines come around to the front of the canopy.

This ensures that they stay in the rear where they belong and not exposed to the front of the canopy.