Michele 1 #76 January 19, 2004 Thanks for the info, WFFC. I've not been in that situation other than the EQ 10 years ago here w/ my mom, so wasn't sure, but trying to come up with ideas and ways we can get through this. (I say we because while I am not an instructor, nor did I lose any gear, Elsinore is home...and we are, after all, family...) Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #77 January 19, 2004 I should also note that other DZ staff lost gear in the fire. One that comes to mind is the Air Boss, Jason (Downwardspiral). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #78 January 19, 2004 Mark, Jason, whomever... There are lots of people who are willing to help out with gear and such. Can you pm me a list of stuff needed, or post it seperately? I know that there are people willing to help, they just don't know with what. So let's see if we can't get a list of things needed, not just school, but personal gear, too. Thanks, love. And I am hugging you all in my heart. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjf98 0 #79 January 19, 2004 Thanks so much for everyone's support on this. It just sucked last night being helpless. I truly can't believe the support that is comming in. Money, offers to loan gear and equipment, unreal... really. Rarely in my life have I seen it like this, and I'm humbled. Thank you to everyone, especially our students. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee03 0 #80 January 19, 2004 I am terribly sorry to hear about the fire. Thank God no one was hurt. I know that you will pull through and be back stronger than ever.-------- To put your life in danger from time to time ... breeds a saneness in dealing with day-to-day trivialities. --Nevil Shute, Slide Rule Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #81 January 19, 2004 Rich, without you guys, there wouldn't be any of us. . .I cannot wait to get back in the sky with you all. . .the sooner the better. . . This too shall pass and become a memory. . .I am so thankful that you all are safe and will see another day of jumping. . . Blue skies everyone. . .________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougjumper 0 #82 January 19, 2004 Man what a bad shit....I hope Dz has some Insurance. If it was Arson and they find who dunit lets whoop..their Damn..Ass..boys...I mean literally..that Sucks.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skylord 1 #83 January 19, 2004 Rich, For goodness sake, this is the least we can do. Hang in there, bro, we'll get all of you taken care of. You do the hard work: jumping with newbies who could panic and ruin your day. Let us take care of you for a change, OK? Bob Elsinore DZ AFF Student, and AFF-6 Freestyle Exit World Champion Bob Marks "-when you leave the airplane its all wrong til it goes right, its a whole different mindset, this is why you have system redundancy." Mattaman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmonst 0 #84 January 19, 2004 Thanks Michelle, for all your time and thoughtfulness. Right now we've had several people trying to match up gear needed with loaners. For the sake of consistency, let's allow Betsy to head up that. So whatever you know, send it her way. She is getting the complete list from all the instructors on what was lost, was is immediately needed and what gear is being loaned. She is here as it's her full-time job and she is on the phone with everyone. Right now she's still sorting out who needs what. Loaner sport rigs have been abundant. What we could still use loaners of is Tandem Rigs, Student Rigs, and Cameras (video TRV&PC style, still cameras-film for tandems...)... Please, if you have anything, e-mail Betsy: betsy@skydiveelsinore.com Like I said, she is still sorting out who needs what so we don't want everyone to fed-ex us everything right away... We'll sort out what we need and contact those who have offered. More good news... we've re-set up a temporary video room & packing/student room behind the bar, with a couple VCR's and one spare DVD recorder Lob had in his office. We used to have 7 video stations, 3 with DVD-r's to give you and idea of what we're working with. But there were 2 students up today, coach jumps. We had a student rig getting a repack in the rigging loft, so we were able to use it. Lob & Betsy are optimistic for being able to run the school like (almost) normal this weekend. We are all anxious to get going again! thankyou lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #85 January 19, 2004 Lew, I wish I had something to send that way to help out. You, Cajones, and all the rest are great people. As it stands though I really have nothing that you could use, and less than nothing when it comes down to actual cash. What I can send out that way is my prayers. You are all in them. Be well, and stay safe, until we meet again.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #86 January 19, 2004 QuoteAnd we linin up all volunteer for help with lending gear and discounts on ordering new gear. I made a call to my old boss Ray Ferrell (SkyDance, FliteSuit) and he said he'd make a special deal offer to anyone affected, so if you need a jumpsuit he'll be in touch with the DZ shortly. In the mean time I hope someone can use the camera suit I sent over, and I'll drop a rig by in the morning. Keep lookin' up!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jen1129 0 #87 January 19, 2004 QuoteRich, without you guys, there wouldn't be any of us. . . Exactly what I am thinking. Every single one of you instructors has taken care of me since my first jump at Elsinore. I wish I could buy you all new rigs! I am so glad it sounds like you will all be back in the sky soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #88 January 19, 2004 I"ve just emailed Betsy to donate my old bevsuit to the student concession. All that has to be done is maybe hack off the booties. WIsh I had more to give...... __ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #89 January 19, 2004 Wow, I'm so sorry... edit: Mailed the address. I put my Triathlon on the loaner gear list, too. Please folks, donate. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakeItHappen 15 #90 January 19, 2004 Quote pics I want to say that those pictures - accurately show the damage, but they do not show you the context of the damage. One thing that struck me when I saw the damage in person were the rig hangers, cable housing and ripcord handles. The rig hangers are clearly visible in most of these photos. You'll notice that they are still attached up high at one end and dropped to the floor at the other end. The way my head saw that was a rig on each hanger bar. Rigs just disappear when they burn. Only the housing, ripcord handle and hardware is left behind as evidence of it's existence. Most of that fell to the floor. Only the bare hangers were left there. Not shown in those views was a ripcord handle hanging off a rig hanger bar. I doubt if that particular handle was in someone's rig. On the close side (to the road) all you could see were housings of rigs that looked like they were stacked on the floor. There was a tiny remenant of a parachute in one location. THere was a charred logbook that Hammo pulled out. There were shells of VCRS decks. THe U shaped lid sort of popped off the rest of the VCR. The guts were burned. Then there were the Corona bottles - brokened by heat at the label off in the corner of the staff area. That red & black jumpsuit in the 'fountian pic' - totalled. nothing left - it's all gone - just like that. Each rig hanger had a rig, plus accessory equipment, The staff had video equipment & dub stations - all gone just like that. Logbooks are the most heartfelt losses. You cannot replace those.. The pics will not show you what it's like to see that in person. The emotional strains I saw out there were great. The Elsinore folks need a bunch of friends right now.. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #91 January 19, 2004 QuoteLogbooks are the most heartfelt losses. You cannot replace those. Dang, I hadn't even thought of that. You Elsinore folk are in my thoughts. Everything happens for a reason...find the silver lining in this incident, it'll pop you right back up on your feet. -Kramer The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TitaniumLegs 8 #92 January 19, 2004 Quote Just off the top of my head, Ellen, YoYo, Bryan, Sean, Pat, Stan, Chris, Leif, Lob, Jonathan, Sharky, Rich, George, Ed and several other lost almost everything. Is that Jonathan Tagle? If so, could somebody please have him PM me? Thanks Peter (>o|-< If you don't believe me, ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #93 January 19, 2004 Jan, Thanks for all the work you did today at Elsinore. It sure -was- a shock when we drove up and saw the devastation first hand. I shot alot of pictures and burned a CD for Lob right there. Hope he can use them in the investigation. Here is one of the views you commented on. I'll have some of the other pictures up on my web page hopefully tomorrow. It's teamwork like this that got the word out so quickly this morning. There were calls coming in left and right all day long. People reaching out to help and filling Elsinore with hope again. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patairborne 0 #94 January 19, 2004 As an Elsinore Staff videographer who lost everything, I would personally like to thank all of those out there in our "skydive community" who are pulling together resources to help out. A heartfelt thank you goes to each and everyone. This is indeed a tragedy which we will all come through, and hopefully will see a lesson in this somewhere down the road. As for now I think that most of us are still in disbelief that this has happened. But, once again thank you, thank you, thank you to all who are responding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smit705 0 #95 January 19, 2004 Very Sorry to here this news, hope it all works out for everyone. Dave Smith, Clarksville, TN In Christ Dave Smith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #96 January 19, 2004 geez this is incredibly sad news to read on a Monday morning. Sending some hartfelt vibes to So Cal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flygirl03 0 #97 January 19, 2004 QuoteLogbooks are the most heartfelt losses. You cannot replace those i know it is a pain, especially for hundreds of jumps... but as a pilot i have heard it recommended many times...make copies. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ earthbound misfit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmonst 0 #98 January 19, 2004 QuoteAs an Elsinore Staff videographer who lost everything, I would personally like to thank all of those out there in our "skydive community" who are pulling together resources to help out. A heartfelt thank you goes to each and everyone. This is indeed a tragedy which we will all come through, and hopefully will see a lesson in this somewhere down the road. As for now I think that most of us are still in disbelief that this has happened. But, once again thank you, thank you, thank you to all who are responding. Ditto. The overwhelming response has been tremendous. And needed as we sort through insurances... This morning we were cleared to dig through the wreckage. I pryed our 10D out of the destroyed camera bag. It still resembles a 10D but is destroyed. The video tape of my accident in Rantoul was melted in that bag. (it's been a rough 6 months!) I did get a leatherman pocket knife out that was ok, a little black but worked. We we able to identify pieces of gear. Some of Ed's is attached. Early discussions about insurance are grim. very grim. Without giong into details yet, even those with homeowners insurance looking at the details of their policies are not finding good news. So we appreciate the paypal donations sincerely! Hammo's email this morning summed it all up pretty well. Thanks to everyone for your support. peace lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #99 January 19, 2004 The pictures tell a horrific story. . .especially of the devastation. . . Prayers and vibes to my entire Elsinore family. . .words cannot properly express my emotions. . .________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #100 January 19, 2004 does anyone need a used RW jumpsuit built for someone about 6'1" 190 pounds? or a large Avaitor Open Face helmet?I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
