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lewmonst

Elsinore burnt down

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The news on this is amazingly horrible, but the return from our wonderful community is so uplifting. I almost cry every time I read this thread.
Velocity & Aerodyne are def manufacturers I will prob buy from because of their wonderful contribution.

I wish I could fly to CA to jump there (but I don't want to pay an airline over $250 to get there)... I LOVED Elsinore the weekend I was there last year - it is such a wonderful place, the people, the land & the atmosphere are all gorgeous.

Because of this I called my renter's insurance agency. For an additional $75/year; I have up to $10,000 in gear covered... I thought it was covered [:/] - glad I checked.

You all are wonderful people, we can only hope that some good will come from the accident (beyond the tremendous response already shown).

Love & hope you all my skysisters & brothers.

There is no can't. Only lack of knowledge or fear. Only you can fix your fear.

PMS #227 (just like the TV show)

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Another manufacturer I would like to mention. While I have been asked to not mention specific details about the deal.

VIGIL USA has stepped up BIG TIME. Kim's generous offer will not be passed up by too many of us I'm sure. I for one will be jumping a Vigil very soon.

Any of the instructors who haven't heard can PM me and I'll be happy to fill you in on the details.

THANK YOU KIM.

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Def do... per year mine is $250 for $40,000 of stuff & then $75 for $10,000 of skydiving gear specifically.
Everyone should get it. All my stuff is covered anywhere; be it in the locker @ the dz, in my car when traveling, in a U-haul when moving, in a friend's car when they're borrowing it - anywhere.
All you need is an addr to get it.

There is no can't. Only lack of knowledge or fear. Only you can fix your fear.

PMS #227 (just like the TV show)

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Precision and Velocity have really came forward on this and I know I'll keep it in mind when I'm looking to replace my gear this fall. :)
I'm looking forward to seeing pictures of the ash/debris jump from the staff at Elsinore.
Yesterday is history
And tomorrow is a mystery

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I've seen a lot of people posting that they are impressed with what the manufactures have done. So am I.

Please remember that when you go to purchase your gear. These aren't monolithic companies they're jumpers like you and me. Make sure you drop them a note letting them know why you chose their company when you decide to purchase.

Rich

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Lew...here are some pics that you were asking fro that i have. Hope they are what your looking for, i sent via PM too.

these are of one of Cajones' rig in case you dont know.

and the last one is just an exit shot of Cajones that i liked from WFFC 03.
"Professor of Pimpology"~~~Bolas

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Students and Experienced Jumpers... Come jump at Elsinore this weekend to show your support.



I will definitely be there... I have been renting student gear, but don't want to take student gear away from actual students if there is a limited amount of gear. Maybe I can rent from GroundZero, or even just help clean up. But I can't imagine how anyone could stay away this weekend...

That is so wonderful about the manufacturers who are replacing gear for free or low cost.

Jen

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I will definitely be there...



Hey Jen. . .be sure to say hi. . .I'll be there making a couple solo student jumps. . .or whatever I can do. . .I don't care, I just need to go hug everyone. . .lol
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Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ
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Darcy

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I don't care, I just need to go hug everyone. . .lol



Yeah, I know what you mean... wish I didn't have to work this week so I could have been around and helped with stuff. Stupid real jobs suck.

I will be there, hoping to jump but not expecting anything... it will depend on gear. I have rented from GroundZero before but didn't like the Spectre (yeah, I'm a wuss, but I'm used to 9-cells and it just seemed jittery to me.)

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This is the stuff GroundZero has for rent... maybe you could get a Sabre?


Spectre 150 Vector 3 PD 160 R
Spectre 170 Javelin J2 PD 143 R
Sabre 170 Javelin J3 PD 160 R
Spectre 210 Infinity PD 193 R
Sabre 2 190 Javelin J4 PD 176 R
Spectre 190 Javelin J4 PD 176 R
Sabre 2 170 Javelin J4 PD 160 R

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Being here in Idaho, and as an intern I do not have much to offer, it was sad to hear what had happened. Elsinore was the first DZ I jumped at away from my own DZ, the people there were very nice while there. And since I have received continued support. This is a perfect example of why I partially chose to enter into the community of skydiving, the closeness, care and concern each one of us has for the other. The actions by those to help the people at Elsinore only solidifies the fact that I am amungst the best 1% of the population.

Shark and Lew, sorry to hear about what happened. I just wanted to extend my condolences to you all there at Elsinore for you losses. It was good to hear that noone lost something even more precious, such as their life, in this tragedy.

Maybe this is a stupid question, but I do not think I caught what really happened? Arson, faulty mechanical, or electrical or what? Can you give details?

I will be coming down in the spring time to see you all again, till then ............ smile while you fly!

"Make your plans dark and as inpenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt" -Sun Tsu

rocket

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To repeat myself once more all over again.

This outpouring of good will is great but:

PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN INSURANCE

A 1 hr fire rated barrier may be made with 1/2" Type-X gypsum wallboard on framing. This means that the wall will last for one hour under flames and will then be able to withstand the blast of a fire hose at the 59 minute mark. Better ratings may be achieved with further layers of rated gyp board, a rated filler, and various other combination. This is easy info to find on the net and anyone with a permit to build can figure out how to do this. If you or the DZ still wants fire insurance then this should keep your premiums down.
"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

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Ugh, just came across this thread (thought it was a word play or something and bypassed it).

Sympathies big time from Denmark. I sincerely hope you guys will get through this ok [:/].

Dunno what to say. You guys are in my thoughts and I wish the best for all of you.

Santa Von GrossenArsch
I only come in one flavour
ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst

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May be the answer. I don't know. What about heat on the other side of the door? What about if the fire started on the INSIDE of the fire proof room you just created?

I think we all agree that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Due to some pretty tight restrictions Elsinore was not able to put up fixed structures (don't know if that is still the case) You can put in all the fire proof panels you want in a mobile home structure. That things gonna burn.

That being said. Elsinore has done us (the instructors) right by this fire. Even when they are taking a large financial hit they are taking care of us.

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What about heat on the other side of the door? What about if the fire started on the INSIDE of the fire proof room you just created?



You're gonna have to see the big picture on this one. Your DZ and many other's can do you right by protecting their and your assets.

If someone who lost gear wants to borrow my old Turbo ZX 185 for a while then I'll pay for the shipping. I doubt it so what I have to offer is engineering, since that's what pays the rent. Take it or leave it. There's not much you can do about an existing facility but if a new one is coming in then keep fire protection in mind. It won't cost much more and it'll save a possible repeat of what happened at your DZ.

PEACE,
"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

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This is to ALL the current Elsinore students. . .

I just spoke to Betsy via e-mail. The school is OPEN. . .Up and Running. . .ready and waiting for you to come out and jump. . .they have everything they need, rigs, helmets, alti's, jumpsuits, etc. . .

All they need is YOU. . .so come on out and jump if you can. . .
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Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ
FGF #6
Darcy

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Just wanted to say a huge thank you to each and everyone who has sent anything from good wishes to offers of gear loan to donations to all of us at elsinore is it hugely appreciated and i have been dumbstruck by the outpouring of generousity in our direction.
good news from here is that the 'new school' is in place (not quite usable yet its still in 2 parts!) but will be good to go very shortly. in the mean time we have equipment for everyone from students to instructors and are ready to go so hopefully see you all tomorrow or sunday.
we are also going to have a fundraising boogie on feb 7/8th here at elsinore so watch out for more info...
lots more thanks you all rule :)

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Just wanted to say a huge thank you to each and everyone who has sent anything from good wishes to offers of gear loan to donations to all of us at elsinore is it hugely appreciated and i have been dumbstruck by the outpouring of generousity in our direction.
good news from here is that the 'new school' is in place (not quite usable yet its still in 2 parts!) but will be good to go very shortly. in the mean time we have equipment for everyone from students to instructors and are ready to go so hopefully see you all tomorrow or sunday.
we are also going to have a fundraising boogie on feb 7/8th here at elsinore so watch out for more info...
lots more thanks you all rule :)



Hey MarieB|

First post??!:o:D

Anyway, the donations are still coming in, and lots of well-wishers are making there way to the DZ. Thanks to all!

Shark

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