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As to the "good, church going sheeple", I find that utterly ridiculous and thoroughly beneath you.



A quick walk through most of Jeanne's posts will demonstrate that this is absolutely not beneath her.

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Hey:

Stop telling me I don't know what I'm fighting for. And don't pretend you know. I've been over there once already. Getting ready to go back and I know what I'm fighting for. So do the rest of my Marines. The protest the other day... over 100,000 Iraqis wanting direct elections. Not ONE shot fired. Peacful protests to get what they want. COULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT 7 MONTHS AGO.

It's a personal affront to me that you assume I don't know what I'm fighting for. The above is just one reason. Why don't you get off of your high horse and realize that the US military has brought more freedom, more help to those people than any other organization over the last 30 years combined. Hell the UN and red cross STILL wont stay. Why? Because they don't have strength in their convictions. It's not worth it to them to have people die to bring good things to the Iraqi people. I CHOSE to wear this uniform. We did GOOD things, and still are! It's my duty to go, and I believe in the mission enough that I'm ready to die for it. I'm sorry that you don't believe that bringing people freedom is worth dying for. Sounds pretty selfish to me to argue that "we're no safer so it was the wrong thing to do!"

CAPT USMC



I have nothing but respect for you and the troops who are doing a great job in Iraq.

But the question is, do you believe that Iraq is unique in some way, and thus deserving of 500+ US servicemen's lives, or do you think the US Marines and US Army should become the world's policemen, ousting all tyrants. There are many tyrants left even now that SH has gone. Where will you go next? N. Korea? Syria? China?

The reason you are in Iraq and not Sierra Leone is that the American people and Congress were given information about Iraq that turned out to be completely bogus. Doesn't that bother you?
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You can't help everyone. You help who you can. It doesn't bother me at all that some of the reasons or some of the things we were looking for weren't there.

As far as "the worlds policemen thing goes" or other nations needing help as well. Not everyone gets treated the same way. We don't do it with economic policy, why would we do it with the military?

Your "respect" for me and contempt for my commander in chief are mutually exclusive.

Iran, Korea... they will be delt with in time, and in unique ways. Don't know how, but I have confidence that the success in Iraq will be repeated.

I don't feel lied to. I don't like being called an idiot who can't think for himself either.

Just ask about military moral during the past administrations years. As a general rule it SUCKED. This president is comitted to long term results and is willing to pay the price. So are we.

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Your "respect" for me and contempt for my commander in chief are mutually exclusive.

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Mutually exclusive but not contradictory. You are in harm's way, doing what you are ordered to do, and that is worthy of respect.
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So, in essence you think USA deserved 911 ... thanks


I never think that killing other people is right.but i do understand why some one wants to kick ass in USA,just sad they didnt manneged to kill the right people instead of inocent people.

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Stefan Faber

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So, in essence you think USA deserved 911 ... thanks


I never think that killing other people is right.but i do understand why some one wants to kick ass in USA,just sad they didnt manneged to kill the right people instead of inocent people.



So in your opinion, what American(s) should have been killed instead?

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that is why 9-11 happened.just go think..

ps. if you respond to me then please speak to me,and not to the rest of the crowd as im a morron>:(



So, in essence you think USA deserved 911 ... thanks!:P



If I walk up to you and punch you in the face, there would have to be a reason for it, right? Someone usually doesn't want to hurt you unless they feel strongly enough to want to hurt you for some reason - usually a perceived injustice against them.

911 wasn't a random act of violence, and yet I really see very little thinking going on about WHY those people would want to do what they did (which included their own death).

Using trite sound bytes like "because they hate freedom" does no justice to such a complex issue.

Can you not conceive of the fact that it is your attitude of "us versus them" that in fact contributes to the perception that the US is a bully who acts unilaterally for ultimately selfish ends?

What Faber is saying is that it is exactly that mindset that makes other countries hate us. You're part of the problem.

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No I am not a liberal. I tend to have some liberal beliefs.. and some conservative ones as well, I am idealistic and a humanist believing in things like

You shall not murder

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

You shall not covet your neighbor’s house, you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is your neighbor’s


OOPS.. for good god fearing folk in the White House.. I wonder if having other people do it for you counts as sin?
http://www.torahatlanta.com/?OVRAW=ten%20commandments&OVKEY=commandment%20ten&OVMTC=standard



I just read this and fell out of my chair... previously in the thread didnt you say it was good for Clinton to release political tension by cheating on his wife now you are lecturing about sin???? Im sorry but the bullshit on this thread is getting deep, i have to go change shoes Amazon.

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What Faber is saying is that it is exactly that mindset that makes other countries hate us. You're part of the problem.


correct,thanks for writing my mind better than i and write it here;)

People(inkluding me) anit mad at USA,in genneral.But things that concerns us is when a powerfull nation as USA does as it does,then ill be afraid of who´s next.i live in Europe,compared to USA i live realative close to spots that USA dont like so much.I see people from warzones,i see KIDS that dont have any family,becours of war.now how often do you see that?

To my eyes USA dont know anything about war,than how to kill people.What you feel and what get is wounted/dead soliders(which is bad enough).Now take 9-11 dont tell me that you liked that it in fact in your own backyard that poeople were killed.

Stay safe
Stefan Faber

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I think 4/6 stand up landings is pretty decent



4 out of 6?? what happened to the other jump or can't you count?

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condsidering I've been downsizing every 2 jumps!



Downsizing every 2 jumps? Even as nuts as Carey gets at ASC, I will never believe that drivel. In fact, I think
you are getting more and more bogus as you go.

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when you talk about what a bad guy Clinton is... >:(:ph34r:



So far, I haven't said a word about Clinton. All I've done so far is watch you make an ass of yourself. 7 jumps and downsizing every 2nd one....Bwaaahahaha..Tell it to a whuffo...I call "Bullshit".

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I was never on topic and didn't claim to be...but I'm not a 7 jump artist trying to convince the world of how right I am or what a skygod I am either. Bottom line is, I think it's really funny...

FFF



Yeah, so I'm a skinny fuck who went from a 210 to a 170 in a matter of jumps. It's not like I'm claiming to have saved someone in freefall without a chut or jump a crossbraced canopy here. Geez.[:/]

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So, in essence you think USA deserved 911 ... thanks


I never think that killing other people is right.but i do understand why some one wants to kick ass in USA,just sad they didnt manneged to kill the right people instead of inocent people.



So you hoped Al Qaeda would murder the President of the U.S.? I hope I'm not reading this correctly.

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So you hoped Al Qaeda would murder the President of the U.S.? I hope I'm not reading this correctly.



I think Faber is trying to say that the hijackers should have targeted the actual source of their oppression rather than taking it out on innocent people who have no role in decision making. That, IMO would have been slightly less tragic. Thats not to say I would condone such an action by the way.

I'm trying to be careful about what I say since people seem to be looking for ways to misinterpret things on this thread.>:(

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So you hoped Al Qaeda would murder the President of the U.S.? I hope I'm not reading this correctly.



I think Faber is trying to say that the hijackers should have targeted the actual source of their oppression rather than taking it out on innocent people who have no role in decision making. That, IMO would have been slightly less tragic. Thats not to say I would condone such an action by the way.

I'm trying to be careful about what I say since people seem to be looking for ways to misinterpret things on this thread.>:(



So what you and Faber are saying is that a President who had only been in office for 8 months is to blame for all of Al Qaedas problems and therefore deserved to die? I really hope this isn't what you are saying because if it is, it is one of the most dispicable comments I have ever heard on this web site.

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So you hoped Al Qaeda would murder the President of the U.S.? I hope I'm not reading this correctly.



as said i dont like killing OF ANYONE,so saying names dosnt help,but if that could have saved 3000people,then yes.

Personaly i think the attack only were to show USA that it can be hit,if they took pentagon or the whith house it whould have given better efect and even take some of the people that makes war dessions,instead of people that dont make thouse dessisions.

Stay safe
Stefan Faber

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So you hoped Al Qaeda would murder the President of the U.S.? I hope I'm not reading this correctly.



as said i dont like killing OF ANYONE,so saying names dosnt help,but if that could have saved 3000people,then yes.

Personaly i think the attack only were to show USA that it can be hit,if they took pentagon or the whith house it whould have given better efect and even take some of the people that makes war dessions,instead of people that dont make thouse dessisions.



Well for your information, the did hit the Pentagon and they killed over 100 innocent people who's only crime was they went to work that day. I knew someone who was murdered by this despicable terrorist group and for you to sit there and make a statement like you just did is way over the top.

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So what you and Faber are saying is that a President who had only been in office for 8 months is to blame for all of Al Qaedas problems and therefore deserved to die?


again who deserves to die,you tell me.. i never said any deserved to die,but i mean that civil people were the wrong people to kill.

beeing a president is setting your life in the fire,if he dont doit who should then?

***I'm trying to be careful about what I say since people seem to be looking for ways to misinterpret things on this thread
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sorry to say that you were caught;)


Stay safe
Stefan Faber

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