TheAnvil 0 #1 January 28, 2004 ...and he looked quite presidential. I disagree with him on most things and would never vote for him - or any other of the Dem candidates this year, but of the folks shown this evening he looked the most presidential by far. I think Edwards will have his # down south, so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 January 28, 2004 Just the imaginative thought of hearing the drone for four years though... Yikes! The guy is to the Dems what Dole was for the Reps in 96. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoysPlayThing 0 #3 January 28, 2004 My goodness Vinny! You sound so political... is this really you? _______________________________________________ My mind is like a parachute...it functions only when open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #4 January 28, 2004 An AOL straw poll has Kerry out in front by a majority of states. Dean has one state and Edwards has a few in the south. None of the other canidates were even on the map. Time will tell. blues Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee03 0 #5 January 28, 2004 You mean you were actually able to stay awake? Kerry takes boring to new heights! Great cure for insomneia!-------- To put your life in danger from time to time ... breeds a saneness in dealing with day-to-day trivialities. --Nevil Shute, Slide Rule Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #6 January 28, 2004 I'm political from time to time...Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #7 January 28, 2004 Wow, you almost allowed yourself to partially support a liberal. You have a fever? Hey, I can handle boring talks right now - just as long as he doesn't tell me on how it is good and right because his god told him so. I still prefer Edwards, but will be happy with Kerry as well. Did you see Liberman's speech? "Thanks to the people of NH, we are in a 3-way tie for third place!" (insert mandatory cheers). Yea, he actually said that as a positive thing. At least Dean didn't go nuts this time, and he even kept his jacket on so he couldn't do that cliche of rolling up his sleeves. So much for Clark spending weeks in NH trying to get votes. I'm not a fashion guru - but what was up with his tie tonight? Anyone else notice that the candidates are starting to point again, instead of doing that closed fist with a bit of thumb routine?_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #8 January 28, 2004 LOL. Partially support? No. Compliment on appearance - yes.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #9 January 28, 2004 QuoteAnyone else notice that the candidates are starting to point again, instead of doing that closed fist with a bit of thumb routine? Bob Dole says the thumb fist just isn't doing it anymore boys. Try Viagra. That got me her vote." witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swoopyswoop 0 #10 January 29, 2004 Hey vinnie let me Stir up a little crap right quick. Mark my word george W. will take it again. How does that strike you amigo? "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #11 January 29, 2004 Quote Hey vinnie let me Stir up a little crap right quick. Mark my word george W. will take it again. How does that strike you amigo? I've said it before and I'll say it again, when it comes down to it the democratic ticket will be Kerry/Edwards, the result: landslide victory for them. Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #12 January 29, 2004 Landslide victory over the Green party, maybe. Landslide victory over the Republican party, not likely. It doesn't hurt to have dreams though. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #13 January 29, 2004 hmm, let's just wait and see... i don't think it's all that far fetched... northern war hero (see purple heart in vietnam) who has fought special interests plus good looking intelligent southern gentleman vs texan war... oh wait, he patrolled texas for 2 days, and wyoming heart attack waiting to happen who are both clearly in the pockets of the top 1/2 of 1% of all americans. Yeah, sounds like a battle to me. Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cudlo 0 #14 January 29, 2004 Lets just elect Arnold Schwart.. Shwartzenager(spelling?) so President so we can finally accept that our government is ridiculous no matter which party is in control._________________________________________ "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." - Kierkegaard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #15 January 29, 2004 I am the "gubernator!" Personally I agree with the guy who I spoke with at a gym in Atlanta who was speaking of me when he said: "this kid should be president, I like the way he thinks" damn Constitutional age requirements! Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #16 January 29, 2004 Scotty, I think you've hit it. GWB will win again, I'm fairly certain. Kerry - though he served his country well in Vietnam - has too much baggage in the form of his congressional record even WITHOUT the positions he holds to be a viable candidate against a well run campaign. Also, GWB is giving signals that this next campaign is going to be different from the Republican side of the house. They aren't going to take the typical lies the Dems use lying down or turn the other cheek this time - if I"m reading him correctly from the SOTU and his recent Pickering appointment. This will prove extremely troublesome for the Dems. Odd how Benny mentions GWB's national guard record vs. Kerry's Vietnam record. One wonders if he held military service in such high regard when Clinton was running against Dole or Bush. Edwards made such a fool of himself in his post-NH speech one wonders how the hell he can win any state populated by voters with three digit IQs. I loved his class warfare lie about the average American carrying the majority of the tax burden. Dammit I just loved that one. Still waiting for Kerry and John McCain to have a nice discussion about Dewey Canyon. Did Kerry really throw someone else's medals away? Suuuuuuure he did. As I stated somewhere else, the zero-defect mentality has cost us the services of some fairly talented individuals at all levels of government, so I'm willing to overlook one or two or even three or eight things in a candidate's past as long as their positions make sense and they are straightforward and stand up for what they believe in. These bozos are on the same stage as Al Sharpton and haven't yet mentioned Tawana Brawley - because they're scared shitless to stand up to a racist within their own party (Sharpton is one of many). Not CinC material. They also slam the current deficit as they propose spending programs that would make it even worse. They bemoan Social Security's current state yet offer no permanent fix and no plan to do anything other than extend the fiasco a few more years. PATHETIC by any standard. Dean has a future as a WWE announcer. Random Anvil comments. See ya Saturday, mi amigo! Vinny Midget Tequila Monster Prospective Lawn GnomeVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #17 January 29, 2004 Really Anvil, I have to ask you, what, besides get us into a couple of wars which could have been avoided, has GWB done for our nation? Hmm, incrase deficit spending? rape the environment? Give money back to those who need it the least? What? Come on, name one good thing. Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #18 January 29, 2004 Come on Benny be fair Bush wants to make SS private so people can build their own little nest egg, (think Neil Bush and Ken Lay and watch your nest egg go away) so that people who have worked hard all their life can retire with dignity. ( more like you can be a walmart greeter until you drop after the Bush boys get done with you.) blue skies Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #19 January 29, 2004 Quote( more like you can be a walmart greeter until you drop after the Bush boys get done with you.) blue skies Jerry Next to being an AFF-I, there's nothing I'd rather be than a Wal-Mart greeter. They tell me that even if I lose my voice/become retarded, I can still use a push button system to say, "welcome to walmart" Ahh, the American dream... Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #20 January 29, 2004 Your liberal slogans are lost on me for a myriad of reasons. I am going to vote for GWB but it's more of voting AGAINST any of the candidates the Dims are running than a vote for Bush himself. Since you chose to throw a few barbs in there, I'll throw them back at you prior to answering your question. First you claim both wars could have been avoided. I assume you mean Afghanistan and Iraq. If you disagree with the Afghanistan campaign I suggest you read up a bit on foreign policy then get back to me. The Iraqi-centric foreign policy he's taken is very arguable and contentious and not the route I would have chosen, I admit. Then you go on to note the increase in the deficit. Sorry to see you've never read the constitution, but 'tis the Legislative branch that has the power to appropriate funds. Spending like drunken sailors - not tax cuts - cause deficits. I've faulted Bush for not vetoing ONE SINGLE appropriations bill before and do so again now. However, when Dems talk about this it's hard for me not to laugh hysterically given the massive programs they want to enact (health care?). Next barb is the environment. Clinton left him the arsenic bomb. The media made fools of themselves with regards to the power plant regulation relaxations (I'm an engineer; hard to lie to me about that when some of my old room-mates work for the power companies and tell me what's going on). What exactly are you referring to here, that's worth noting? See the FOIA lawsuit Landmark Legal filed w/Clinton's EPA if you want some environmental shenanigans worth noting. Final barb: giving back money to those who need it least. NEWSFLASH: COMMUNISM FAILED. Those who pay more taxes, get more tax relief. Each according to his ability to pay.....straight from Marx/Engels. If you admit to being a commie, more power to you. Just don't expect my vote. Now you asked for ONE good thing GWB did for the country. I'll give you a couple to chew on: - led us out of the Clinton/Gore recession. - gave us a nice tax break (1st package; I don't like the second package and never will) - stopped giving the North Koreans the extortion fuel/grain for nothing (nuke agreement they cheated on) He's not a great president (yet) but none of the folks running against him have a clue.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #21 January 29, 2004 Quote First you claim both wars could have been avoided. I assume you mean Afghanistan and Iraq. If you disagree with the Afghanistan campaign I suggest you read up a bit on foreign policy then get back to me. The Iraqi-centric foreign policy he's taken is very arguable and contentious and not the route I would have chosen, I admit. Then you go on to note the increase in the deficit. Sorry to see you've never read the constitution, but 'tis the Legislative branch that has the power to appropriate funds. Spending like drunken sailors - not tax cuts - cause deficits. I've faulted Bush for not vetoing ONE SINGLE appropriations bill before and do so again now. However, when Dems talk about this it's hard for me not to laugh hysterically given the massive programs they want to enact (health care?). Next barb is the environment. Clinton left him the arsenic bomb. The media made fools of themselves with regards to the power plant regulation relaxations (I'm an engineer; hard to lie to me about that when some of my old room-mates work for the power companies and tell me what's going on). What exactly are you referring to here, that's worth noting? See the FOIA lawsuit Landmark Legal filed w/Clinton's EPA if you want some environmental shenanigans worth noting. Final barb: giving back money to those who need it least. NEWSFLASH: COMMUNISM FAILED. Those who pay more taxes, get more tax relief. Each according to his ability to pay.....straight from Marx/Engels. If you admit to being a commie, more power to you. Just don't expect my vote. Now you asked for ONE good thing GWB did for the country. I'll give you a couple to chew on: - led us out of the Clinton/Gore recession. - gave us a nice tax break (1st package; I don't like the second package and never will) - stopped giving the North Koreans the extortion fuel/grain for nothing (nuke agreement they cheated on) He's not a great president (yet) but none of the folks running against him have a clue. I really don't have that many slogans because I'm not really that big a lib. I do know that afghanistan was necessary/appropriate, Iraq howver is very debatable. Yet we know that before 9/11 Bush et al wanted to invade Iraq.... why?? WMD? Kay says they weren't there.... Oh well... Oil, no we'd never invade a nation for oil...... Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antithesis 0 #22 January 29, 2004 QuoteDean has a future as a WWE announcer I don't watch wrestling ..But I think that would be awesome! I travel the land, Work in the ocean, Play in the sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #23 January 29, 2004 QuoteYet we know that before 9/11 Bush et al wanted to invade Iraq.... why?? WMD? Kay says they weren't there.... Oh well... Oil, no we'd never invade a nation for oil...... So how long do you let a little dog nip at your heels before you kick it? Past administrations (read Clinton's) wanted to do kick Saddam's ass too, just did not have the political will to do it... maybe they were distracted by the Chinese, or the blowjobs? K also said hey thought there were, but that intel has proved faulty... I think his investigation has shown that there was potentially a more dangerous situation... They were seeking bio weapons, but had not yet been able to get there... Saddam thought they had weapons programs, but he was being dupped by his scientists, for money... what else would they do for money, and for whom? And what about the prohibited missile programs? Was the war about oil? On some levels, sure... stability in that region is important because of oil... should we become less dependent on oil, absolutely. But for some reason the crunchies are opposed to more clean and efficient nuclear power JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #24 January 29, 2004 QuotePast administrations (read Clinton's) wanted to do kick Saddam's ass too, just did not have the political will to do it... ... or maybe they didn't have the evidence to justify it and decided not to make up reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luv2Fall 0 #25 January 29, 2004 This lady has an interesting perspective of Kerry. http://www.anncoulter.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites