hydrant 0 #1 December 3, 2010 I should mention that by audio insulated I do not mean 100% insulated but would just like to know if it is better to be quiet under helmet or be able to hear as much as possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #3 December 3, 2010 4. FreeOwned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #4 December 3, 2010 You better damn well be able to hear me yelling at you under canopy!And to hear the chears of the crowd on that stadium demo. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #5 December 3, 2010 Quote 3. Stylish. I agree. If your helmet doesn't match your rig, then what's the point? =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #6 December 3, 2010 Offer a specified degree of protection. Protec for example..CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #7 December 3, 2010 Like many things on this board, I admit this is speculation but... When I started (1990) most were wearing protec or frap-hats. Reasonable hearing in either. Mid-airs were almost unknown. Now we have sound-proof/full-face/iPod-enhanced helmets, and mid-airs are (relatively speaking) common. Get your head out of your cockpit and look/listen for those you are flying with... Rarely do any other pilots fly in such close proximity with each other (relative to their speeds) intending to land in the same area at the same time as we do. The LEAST you could do is keep 100% of your senses on the flight. Just my $.02 JWAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #8 December 3, 2010 White....always WHITE! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #9 December 4, 2010 How about somewhat more affordable??? I bought my bonehead and z1 5 years ago brand new and total was less than 350 Now good luck getting one for that priceBernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilchief 1 #10 December 4, 2010 I think your post got de-railed =P But how about this: A helmet that is super quiet, but equipped with electronics allowing normal speech to be let through, but engine noise and freefall noise be canceled :) With carbon to protect your head!"Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you long to return." - Da Vinci www.lilchief.no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #11 December 4, 2010 That sounds absolutely fantastic and think that the manufacturers would sell a lot of those provided it be relatively light and not ridiculously expensive. Cookie and bonehead and everyone else do you guys hear this?! For info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #12 December 5, 2010 Quote I think your post got de-railed =P But how about this: A helmet that is super quiet, but equipped with electronics allowing normal speech to be let through, but engine noise and freefall noise be canceled :) With carbon to protect your head! They could call it something really neat...like an open face! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #13 December 5, 2010 Must match the rest of my gear. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thomas.n.thomas 0 #14 December 5, 2010 QuoteI think your post got de-railed =P But how about this: A helmet that is super quiet, but equipped with electronics allowing normal speech to be let through, but engine noise and freefall noise be canceled :) With carbon to protect your head! What about electronic ear muffs (amplify soft noise such as speaking, but cut everything above a certain # of db). I use them on the shooting range all the time and it's much easier to hear people talking and still saves your ears from muzzle blast. There are a few helmets that are built to accomodate muffs like Peltors or Howard Leights, but I don't think these helmets are necessarily suited to skydivng (looser, more of an infantry style helmet). Could a new time of skydiving helmet with electronic muffs be the way to go if it were offered? ETA: in posting this I realize the muffs would need to change a bit because air friction noise is constant and might be amplified along with voice to drown it out, so some testing would be needed. Nice thing about the peltors is you can have audio input as well, so if you have an audio out capability on an audible altimeter, it goes right into the muffs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #15 December 5, 2010 Ya know what they say, a Giraffe is really a Horse designed by committee... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #16 December 5, 2010 Here is the problem with building a helmet that does all of that. First, it would be big, bigger than most people would want to wear for recreational skydiving due to the electronics. Second, a Peltor type electronic system is hard pressed to work in an environment where you have a constant droning engine noise and also the ambient wind noise. If you design it to cancel out that frequency range, it inevitably bleeds over onto/into the range you need to hear normal speech. I worked with a company on building an in ear microphone system that works like the Peltors in the skydiving environment and the design works very well. However, it is very expensive and it also requires/ is designed to use a radio much like regular Peltor communication headsets. It also requires you to have a helmet that is very snug and provides excellent noise attenuation and that the ear buds are properly placed into the ear canal. So the idea of having a simple slip on full face helmet like we use today in skydiving that does all of that and is not expensive or overly big, is still several years down the road. You can jump with Peltors in freefall, we do it in the military, but primarily rely on using the radio that is attached to the headset for speaking to one another."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #17 December 7, 2010 What do you think of these? http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/Skydiving/ChinoAirShow.jpg Or maybe something is a two tone? http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/Skydiving/FlightHelmet.jpg Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thomas.n.thomas 0 #18 December 10, 2010 Quote What do you think of these? http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/Skydiving/ChinoAirShow.jpg Or maybe something is a two tone? http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/Skydiving/FlightHelmet.jpg Sparky "That's the way he jumps...ice cold." "You mean no mistakes?" "Nah, he just doesn't practice anything, ever. It's a surprise he's lasted this long." For the record, after watching a HAHO video I'm thinking that's got to be pretty awesome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites