Deuce 1 #26 January 27, 2004 I'm always available for training. Regular people are much easier to teach than cops. Cops have already learned everything from the movies. Ugh. And if I never have to teach somebody not to hold the freaking pistol sideways ever again.... You can find some ball park costs here: http://www.hunt4ever.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #27 January 27, 2004 QuoteUgh. And if I never have to teach somebody not to hold the freaking pistol sideways ever again.... Hey that shit worked for Laura Croft! ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #28 January 27, 2004 She had a different set of guns that were much more effective, my brother. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bsoder 0 #29 January 27, 2004 Quote9mm, or .45ACP? .45, Kimber. Mine looks like this. http://www.kimberamerica.com/images/pistols/tacticalcustom_II.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #30 January 27, 2004 QuoteShe had a different set of guns that were much more effective, my brother. & the firearms were nice too! -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #31 January 27, 2004 Shit, foo!! I gots dis on my Glock!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #32 January 27, 2004 Quotethe Glock is really a better carry pistol. I've put thousands and thousands of rounds downrange at advanced pistol courses, and my experience was that the Glocks could go all week without malfunction where everything else would start to go. I'm currently conducting an experiment. I have about 2000 rounds through my G17. The last 450 without cleaning. No malfunctions yet of FTFs so far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirCav 0 #33 January 27, 2004 I like the .45...but if you have both, THROW the 9mm at him and shoot him with the .45 The round and the 9mm will get to him at the same timeGW685,D3888,C5052,SCS843 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #34 January 27, 2004 I like my BUG GUNS .44 mag favorite.. 9mm on hand as well but the 12 guage pistol grip Mossburg Riot gun is the house gun....well its a handgun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vdschoor 0 #35 January 27, 2004 QuoteShoulda came to Eloy. Hoo doggy. CoconutMonkey: "JP hold my beer, I need to reload" That was hilarious.. Too bad I am not allowed to get one (foreigner) otherwise the order for the Glock would be in!! That is a kick ass gun. Iwan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TequilaGirl 0 #36 January 27, 2004 I just got a 9mm..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #37 January 27, 2004 For those who like the best of both worlds the Glock 21 (45 acp) is a damn fine weapon as well. you have capacity and stopping power, recoil is not even an issue(has it really ever been?)"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gkc1436 3 #38 January 27, 2004 9mm...berretta style ammo and clips are easily obtainable in times of need like when the jack booted thugs are marching down the street doing house to house searchs...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deuce 1 #39 January 27, 2004 These are all you, Jeanne. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #40 January 27, 2004 oooohhhh... those are mighty purty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydivingNurse 0 #41 January 27, 2004 Didn't the Army do a study once that said a bullet would need to be something like three inches in diameter for consistent "stopping power"? Also, I think it said that to drop someone with a regular gun, you'd have to hit them either in the heart, the head, or one of the femurs. That being said, I'm a .45 cal person myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bmcd308 0 #42 January 27, 2004 It is one from time to time, even for you HSLD operators. I have seen some amazing improvements in recoil management from students coming out of HERE. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #43 January 27, 2004 Mighty fine lookin shootin irons there JP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rjf98 0 #44 January 27, 2004 Go with Wilson Combat. You will pay, but there isn't a finer single action .45 auto out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #45 January 27, 2004 Check out http://www.ammolab.com. The largest expanded .45 in their tests that had better than 12" penetration was: .70" expansion, 16.5" penetration, 836fps velocity I load up with 124 grain Hydrashocks which have. .61" expansion, 15.7" penetration, 1080fps velocity Not much difference there. And the fact that I can afford to put more rounds down range, and control muzzle flip for quick follow up shots, and have 18 rounds loaded, I'll stick with 9mm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SniperCJ 0 #46 January 27, 2004 45. If youre looking at 1911's its gonna depend on what you wanna spend. For a nice higher end production gun you cant beat a Kimber. Expect $700 - $1000 for those. Springfield makes some good 1911's too. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites caress 0 #47 January 27, 2004 that is quite nice. $1300 out the door? I like that Kimber.-Caress I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #48 January 27, 2004 QuoteIt is one from time to time, even for you HSLD operators. I have seen some amazing improvements in recoil management from students coming out of HERE. We've been there but I personally prefer Jerry Barnhart I always have loads of fun and learn more there than anywhere else."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FrogNog 1 #49 January 27, 2004 Quote That Sig .357 (kind of a 9mm magnum) is quite a crowd pleaser too, but the muzzle blast off that thing at night is just horrible. I believe its proper name is the reverse order - ".357 Sig". And technically it would be "kind of a 9mm wildcat" (or .40 wildcat) since it's a neck-down pistol round. Do I have that right - sticking a smaller bullet in a larger-diameter piece of brass to make something new is "wildcatting"? Or is that term inapplicable to any mass-produced ammo? Muzzle flash at night is just powder burning after the bullet leaves, so it might be correctable with different powders, a longer barrel, or good ol' flash-hiding (which now must be called muzzle braking, thanks to CRA 1994). I'm not sure if the powder could be safely altered in a .357 Sig without violating the pressure specs, though. And on larger bullets being better for plates and whatnot: while you are correct, remember that you can't miss fast enough to win. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gmanpilot 0 #50 January 27, 2004 I prefer the 45, but the best one for you is the one you will keep handy. 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vdschoor 0 #35 January 27, 2004 QuoteShoulda came to Eloy. Hoo doggy. CoconutMonkey: "JP hold my beer, I need to reload" That was hilarious.. Too bad I am not allowed to get one (foreigner) otherwise the order for the Glock would be in!! That is a kick ass gun. Iwan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TequilaGirl 0 #36 January 27, 2004 I just got a 9mm..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #37 January 27, 2004 For those who like the best of both worlds the Glock 21 (45 acp) is a damn fine weapon as well. you have capacity and stopping power, recoil is not even an issue(has it really ever been?)"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gkc1436 3 #38 January 27, 2004 9mm...berretta style ammo and clips are easily obtainable in times of need like when the jack booted thugs are marching down the street doing house to house searchs...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deuce 1 #39 January 27, 2004 These are all you, Jeanne. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #40 January 27, 2004 oooohhhh... those are mighty purty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydivingNurse 0 #41 January 27, 2004 Didn't the Army do a study once that said a bullet would need to be something like three inches in diameter for consistent "stopping power"? Also, I think it said that to drop someone with a regular gun, you'd have to hit them either in the heart, the head, or one of the femurs. That being said, I'm a .45 cal person myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bmcd308 0 #42 January 27, 2004 It is one from time to time, even for you HSLD operators. I have seen some amazing improvements in recoil management from students coming out of HERE. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #43 January 27, 2004 Mighty fine lookin shootin irons there JP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rjf98 0 #44 January 27, 2004 Go with Wilson Combat. You will pay, but there isn't a finer single action .45 auto out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #45 January 27, 2004 Check out http://www.ammolab.com. The largest expanded .45 in their tests that had better than 12" penetration was: .70" expansion, 16.5" penetration, 836fps velocity I load up with 124 grain Hydrashocks which have. .61" expansion, 15.7" penetration, 1080fps velocity Not much difference there. And the fact that I can afford to put more rounds down range, and control muzzle flip for quick follow up shots, and have 18 rounds loaded, I'll stick with 9mm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SniperCJ 0 #46 January 27, 2004 45. If youre looking at 1911's its gonna depend on what you wanna spend. For a nice higher end production gun you cant beat a Kimber. Expect $700 - $1000 for those. Springfield makes some good 1911's too. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites caress 0 #47 January 27, 2004 that is quite nice. $1300 out the door? I like that Kimber.-Caress I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #48 January 27, 2004 QuoteIt is one from time to time, even for you HSLD operators. I have seen some amazing improvements in recoil management from students coming out of HERE. We've been there but I personally prefer Jerry Barnhart I always have loads of fun and learn more there than anywhere else."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FrogNog 1 #49 January 27, 2004 Quote That Sig .357 (kind of a 9mm magnum) is quite a crowd pleaser too, but the muzzle blast off that thing at night is just horrible. I believe its proper name is the reverse order - ".357 Sig". And technically it would be "kind of a 9mm wildcat" (or .40 wildcat) since it's a neck-down pistol round. Do I have that right - sticking a smaller bullet in a larger-diameter piece of brass to make something new is "wildcatting"? Or is that term inapplicable to any mass-produced ammo? Muzzle flash at night is just powder burning after the bullet leaves, so it might be correctable with different powders, a longer barrel, or good ol' flash-hiding (which now must be called muzzle braking, thanks to CRA 1994). I'm not sure if the powder could be safely altered in a .357 Sig without violating the pressure specs, though. And on larger bullets being better for plates and whatnot: while you are correct, remember that you can't miss fast enough to win. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gmanpilot 0 #50 January 27, 2004 I prefer the 45, but the best one for you is the one you will keep handy. Do they make that baby Glock in .357Sig?_________________________________________ -There's always free cheese in a mouse trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 2 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
LouDiamond 1 #37 January 27, 2004 For those who like the best of both worlds the Glock 21 (45 acp) is a damn fine weapon as well. you have capacity and stopping power, recoil is not even an issue(has it really ever been?)"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gkc1436 3 #38 January 27, 2004 9mm...berretta style ammo and clips are easily obtainable in times of need like when the jack booted thugs are marching down the street doing house to house searchs...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #39 January 27, 2004 These are all you, Jeanne. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #40 January 27, 2004 oooohhhh... those are mighty purty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydivingNurse 0 #41 January 27, 2004 Didn't the Army do a study once that said a bullet would need to be something like three inches in diameter for consistent "stopping power"? Also, I think it said that to drop someone with a regular gun, you'd have to hit them either in the heart, the head, or one of the femurs. That being said, I'm a .45 cal person myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #42 January 27, 2004 It is one from time to time, even for you HSLD operators. I have seen some amazing improvements in recoil management from students coming out of HERE. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #43 January 27, 2004 Mighty fine lookin shootin irons there JP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjf98 0 #44 January 27, 2004 Go with Wilson Combat. You will pay, but there isn't a finer single action .45 auto out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #45 January 27, 2004 Check out http://www.ammolab.com. The largest expanded .45 in their tests that had better than 12" penetration was: .70" expansion, 16.5" penetration, 836fps velocity I load up with 124 grain Hydrashocks which have. .61" expansion, 15.7" penetration, 1080fps velocity Not much difference there. And the fact that I can afford to put more rounds down range, and control muzzle flip for quick follow up shots, and have 18 rounds loaded, I'll stick with 9mm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SniperCJ 0 #46 January 27, 2004 45. If youre looking at 1911's its gonna depend on what you wanna spend. For a nice higher end production gun you cant beat a Kimber. Expect $700 - $1000 for those. Springfield makes some good 1911's too. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caress 0 #47 January 27, 2004 that is quite nice. $1300 out the door? I like that Kimber.-Caress I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #48 January 27, 2004 QuoteIt is one from time to time, even for you HSLD operators. I have seen some amazing improvements in recoil management from students coming out of HERE. We've been there but I personally prefer Jerry Barnhart I always have loads of fun and learn more there than anywhere else."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #49 January 27, 2004 Quote That Sig .357 (kind of a 9mm magnum) is quite a crowd pleaser too, but the muzzle blast off that thing at night is just horrible. I believe its proper name is the reverse order - ".357 Sig". And technically it would be "kind of a 9mm wildcat" (or .40 wildcat) since it's a neck-down pistol round. Do I have that right - sticking a smaller bullet in a larger-diameter piece of brass to make something new is "wildcatting"? Or is that term inapplicable to any mass-produced ammo? Muzzle flash at night is just powder burning after the bullet leaves, so it might be correctable with different powders, a longer barrel, or good ol' flash-hiding (which now must be called muzzle braking, thanks to CRA 1994). I'm not sure if the powder could be safely altered in a .357 Sig without violating the pressure specs, though. And on larger bullets being better for plates and whatnot: while you are correct, remember that you can't miss fast enough to win. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmanpilot 0 #50 January 27, 2004 I prefer the 45, but the best one for you is the one you will keep handy. Do they make that baby Glock in .357Sig?_________________________________________ -There's always free cheese in a mouse trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
