lawrocket 3 #26 January 9, 2004 That doesn't look like a code to me. IT looks like nothing more than a decorative design. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #27 January 9, 2004 Yeah, you are right. That picture only has two rings of symbols, while the real one has three. One thing to keep in mind when doing all this is that the code was not designed to be decoded by an alien civilization, but by elementary school kids on earth as a classroom project. I do not think that the state shifting of hydrogen is going to be the key to this one. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #28 January 9, 2004 There are three shapes, not two. They are also arranged in 9 groups of 21 each. Lower ASCII is seven bits......if it were binary ASCII, it would be 27 characters total ([21/7]*9)... 3 sets of 3 strips of 3 different characters (dash, spot, slash). edit to reflect 3 rings, not two, etc. mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #29 January 9, 2004 "I've deciphered part of the message - it looks like a warning. I'm going out after them." "What's the point? I mean, in the time it takes you to get there, they'll know if it's a warning or not..." mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #30 January 9, 2004 QuoteThere are three shapes, not two. Where are you getting that from? The pre-launch disc image? Looking at the actual disc image from the Red Rover site, I can only make out 2 bits: line & dot. QuoteThey are also arranged in 9 groups of 21 each. I count 25 bits per line, 3 lines = 75 bits.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #31 January 9, 2004 QuoteQuoteThere are three shapes, not two. Where are you getting that from? The pre-launch disc image? Looking at the actual disc image from the Red Rover site, I can only make out 2 bits: line & dot. QuoteThey are also arranged in 9 groups of 21 each. I count 25 bits per line, 3 lines = 75 bits. I was counting the rings on the color demo, not the actual B/W shot from Mars. It's difficult to make out, but I think I see 26 on the outer ring in the lower left-hand pie slice on the Mars shot. Base-5? Baudot? mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dustin19d 0 #32 January 9, 2004 I think we should find something better to occupy our free time than talking about 1's and 0's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #33 January 9, 2004 QuoteI think we should find something better to occupy our free time than talking about 1's and 0's Like boobies? mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #34 January 9, 2004 QuoteI assume the code is a binary representation of letters to be decoded into an English language phrase. Interesting idea. We send a message that can be decoded into English. First, that assumes that the aliens can figure out the code. That eliminates stupid aliens, good idea. Second, that assumes that the aliens can understand English. We already have enough, non-English speaking aliens, weed them out, another good idea. However, if the idea was really to communicate with them in the first place, no code needed. We are assuming that they understand English, why not write the message in English to start with. I looked at the spinner in the middle and I can only assume that we are sending them a game. Either "Wheel of Fortune" or "Twister". Unless they have enclosed some NASA-brand baby oil, I doubt it is Twister. Wheel of Fortune sounds more probable. They read the message, play the game, then they have to come here to claim their new Lazy-Boy recliner. They come to us. That is the sensible thing to do. Doesn't that seem more logical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #35 January 9, 2004 have you thought about morse code?____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #36 January 9, 2004 Nah, this is the old Ovaltine trick to get kids to pay attention, not to communicate with Marvin... mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #37 January 9, 2004 Quote have you thought about morse code? Yeah, the thought crossed my mind, but it does not make sense in terms of how the message looks on the disc. Morse code is actually a bit more than dashes and dots. One bit more to be exact. A silent element making a trinary signal, so if you look at the message on the disc, you'll see there's no indicator for a silent element and there would be no way to infer one from context.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #38 January 9, 2004 If there are 26 elements in each string, perhaps it would then be a variant of ROT-13? Most kids know that one. mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #39 January 9, 2004 How are you counting 26?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #40 January 9, 2004 QuoteHow are you counting 26? I tot I taw 26, not 25...mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #41 January 9, 2004 When I took martial arts, we always had the 4-day Fall Camp at Fl St Univ. There was shirts made up which had Japanese on them. The translation was "Kick me in the balls, I can't read the language." Maybe this is a NASA-geek joke. It says something like " <--- I'm with Stupid". They think their being funny and a Vogon construction crew vaporizes us for the insult. Since Morse code must be translated into something, seems like they'd just use pictures. Have panels that fell off to reveal a collage. I recommend some from Girls Gone Wild. We want to give a message of friendship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites n2skdvn 0 #42 January 9, 2004 I know it says "AK AK ,AKKK,AKAK AK"if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #43 January 9, 2004 QuoteI know it says "AK AK ,AKKK,AKAK AK" That is one of my fav movies. On the road to being a cult classic. Having Jack Nicholson in it was icing on the cake. Maybe Jack has free time and could do a little "alien liason" consulting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #44 January 9, 2004 Quote I tot I taw 26, not 25... Ok, would somebody please do a check of what I wrote down in the original post in this thread with what they think they're seeing? I'd feel really stupid if I miscounted or something.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #45 January 9, 2004 QuoteI know it says "AK AK ,AKKK,AKAK AK" LOL - good one! mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scottbre 0 #46 January 9, 2004 QuoteOk, would somebody please do a check of what I wrote down in the original post in this thread with what they think they're seeing? I got the same thing you did quade. 25 characters per line, and the same sequence that you listed in your original post. ... I think it's a message from my roommate. .... he wants me to buy some more dryer sheets.... "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #47 January 9, 2004 Got a question... if the disk was actually spinning would it make a design under a strobe? Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #48 January 9, 2004 Undoubtedly if you were to spin the disc under a common florescent light it would create a pattern that your brain would perceive as colors, but since nobody has asscess to the disc nor does there seem to be any clues as to how fast you'd need to spin the disc, I also doubt that's what the authors intended.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #49 January 9, 2004 Since these aliens are more technically advanced than us, what if they treat us like cattle when they show up? Just herd us into pens, feed us, let us breed... Not a bad deal unless you are a space-geek, then they'll be de-selected. Wonder if they thought about that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bmcd308 0 #50 January 9, 2004 I still think that something we are all forgetting is that the code is intended to be a classroom project for kids. Surely it cannot be all that horribly complicated. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 2 of 9 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
n2skdvn 0 #42 January 9, 2004 I know it says "AK AK ,AKKK,AKAK AK"if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #43 January 9, 2004 QuoteI know it says "AK AK ,AKKK,AKAK AK" That is one of my fav movies. On the road to being a cult classic. Having Jack Nicholson in it was icing on the cake. Maybe Jack has free time and could do a little "alien liason" consulting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #44 January 9, 2004 Quote I tot I taw 26, not 25... Ok, would somebody please do a check of what I wrote down in the original post in this thread with what they think they're seeing? I'd feel really stupid if I miscounted or something.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #45 January 9, 2004 QuoteI know it says "AK AK ,AKKK,AKAK AK" LOL - good one! mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #46 January 9, 2004 QuoteOk, would somebody please do a check of what I wrote down in the original post in this thread with what they think they're seeing? I got the same thing you did quade. 25 characters per line, and the same sequence that you listed in your original post. ... I think it's a message from my roommate. .... he wants me to buy some more dryer sheets.... "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #47 January 9, 2004 Got a question... if the disk was actually spinning would it make a design under a strobe? Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #48 January 9, 2004 Undoubtedly if you were to spin the disc under a common florescent light it would create a pattern that your brain would perceive as colors, but since nobody has asscess to the disc nor does there seem to be any clues as to how fast you'd need to spin the disc, I also doubt that's what the authors intended.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #49 January 9, 2004 Since these aliens are more technically advanced than us, what if they treat us like cattle when they show up? Just herd us into pens, feed us, let us breed... Not a bad deal unless you are a space-geek, then they'll be de-selected. Wonder if they thought about that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #50 January 9, 2004 I still think that something we are all forgetting is that the code is intended to be a classroom project for kids. Surely it cannot be all that horribly complicated. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
