sundevil777 102 #26 January 26, 2004 QuoteIf the other half got out and voted for their beliefs, we would see a major political revolution. I don't think we need or should want a revolution. Revolution means unpredictability, and that means a worse economy. I have no problem at all with people not voting. It means they are pretty happy the way things are, it seems to me. Bush will win.edit-Paige, we will have to talk more politics during ground time this year.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiverRick 0 #27 January 26, 2004 QuoteI've been watching more of Clark - and the guy scares me. I agree. He's an egomaniac. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #28 January 26, 2004 QuoteThere are a lot of months between now and November. I'm hoping I find someone to vote for, rather than only having someone to vote against. That means I get to listen to what they have to say, rather than making my mind up now Wendy W. Good call Wendy, and I agree...I want to try and keep an open mind...there are choices. Just need to get past the superficial.~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #29 January 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteI've been watching more of Clark - and the guy scares me. I agree. He's an egomaniac. wow, did we actually agree on something related to politics???_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiverRick 0 #30 January 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteI've been watching more of Clark - and the guy scares me. I agree. He's an egomaniac. wow, did we actually agree on something related to politics??? It's been a long time since I had to buy beer. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #31 January 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI've been watching more of Clark - and the guy scares me. I agree. He's an egomaniac. wow, did we actually agree on something related to politics??? It's been a long time since I had to buy beer. sierra nevada pale ale, blue moon, or berghoffs will work! _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #32 January 26, 2004 Quote He's an egomaniac. Honestly, how could anyone run for President if they didn't have at least a little of this quality? They're all egomaniacs to a certain extent. Some come by it understandably from holding pretty high positions -- others are running complete ego campaigns. To me, Clark doesn't seem half as bad as others in this regard. To me, he seems about as honest and straightforward as you could possibly hope to get in a politician. He already has my support and he'll have my vote in the primary. If he wins the nomination, he'll have my vote in November. If you haven't seen it yet and are still wondering who this guy is or if the only information you've ever heard about him came from conservative talk radio, you might want to check out American Son.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmanpilot 0 #33 January 26, 2004 QuoteMost of the media and polls are put out by the left. The polling done by both sides is usually contrived and written with the intent of influencing opinion as opposed to measuring it. It's grotesque._________________________________________ -There's always free cheese in a mouse trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #34 January 26, 2004 Quote No believe it or not, I'm a pre-law major, stay up with current issues, and have taken classes (where there are libearls teaching) telling us that at least 85% of the major media corporations are owned and operated by liberals! Where do you get the idea that they are not? Do some research and I think you might be a little surprised! I have a question for you -- what research have you actually done or are you simply taking the word of your class instructor? I don't know where the 85% number comes from. Is that supposed to be all newspapers, radio, television and cable? I mean, just look at Rupert Murdock and GE -- both pretty right wing and if you look at what they own it's far more than the less than 15% you've suggested is not controlled by the "left". An interesting series of articles debunking the right-wing myths.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #35 January 26, 2004 I'm voting for Rhino as long as he totes the M-60... FFF "Upon seeing the shadow of a pigeon, one must resist the urge to look up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #36 January 26, 2004 Quade - I watched a debate the other day where Clark pulled rank on Kerry. Then Clark tried to put a different spin on it twice over the next two days! I am tired of Clark always having to explain ad nauseum what he really means after he opens his mouth. And then when NBC Nightly News tries to point out how he is contradicting himself and Clark repremanded the reporter as if he was a child._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #37 January 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteMost of the media and polls are put out by the left. The polling done by both sides is usually contrived and written with the intent of influencing opinion as opposed to measuring it. It's grotesque. Had you quoted all of what I said, that would have come across. I said the exact same thing.Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #38 January 26, 2004 Now that campaign finance has been reformed, is it legal for us to talk about this? ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee03 0 #39 January 26, 2004 I will vote for Bush, for one reason and one reason only, between he, and the 9, 8, 7, or how many ever there are now, Dems running for the Office of President, Bush is the lesser of two evils! No other reason!-------- To put your life in danger from time to time ... breeds a saneness in dealing with day-to-day trivialities. --Nevil Shute, Slide Rule Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #40 January 26, 2004 I like Clark.. I've seen him speak a few times.. He is veteraned, honest and very intelligent... He attained the rank of General for Gods sake.. I think Clark should be Pres and Colin Powell Vice Pres.. That would be a great combination.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
honeybeememee 0 #41 January 26, 2004 Not saying anyone should/would make any decisions based on this, but I got it in an email and thought it was interesting...I did the questions part, not the compare (sorry if its not a clicky or a repost) http://www.presidentmatch.com/Main.jsp2?cp=main Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #42 January 26, 2004 Rhino - as a civillian, the General rank doesn't sway me, at all. No disrespect - but what he did on the battlefield is not the same for what he would need to do in Washington. Oh, if anyone believes in the polls, Newsweek released one today saying Kerry is slightly in the lead in NH - 31%, with Dean at 29%. The third place spot is up for grabs between Edwards, Clark and Lieberman. If the election were to happen today, the poll has Kerry winning by 4 points over Bush._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #43 January 26, 2004 clicky http://www.presidentmatch.com/Main.jsp2?cp=main_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdwhalen 0 #44 January 26, 2004 In 2000, I was riding the fence and ended up voting for Bush because of Gore's demeanor during the debates. Admittedly not the best of reasons. I wish I had looked closer now. Bush has not lived up to his promises in 2000 - most significantly, trying to build international concensus and being a more humble nation in international affairs. I'm also very concerned about the huge deficit he has created from the surplus he was left. I'm hoping I get to vote for a Kerry-Edwards ticket this time. I won't make the same mistake that I made in 2000."I have magic buttons ;)." skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #45 January 26, 2004 Gore is an ass.... lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #46 January 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteBush, if you think a dem. is going to win after the capture of Saddam, an upswing begining in the economy, and tax cuts, you may be in for a small shock. A Newsweek poll places it a statistical dead heat with a slight edge to that Dem if it were to be decorated war hero John Kerry. Look at your source and who funds it. Most of the media and polls are put out by the left. Isn't it just amazing that those capitalists who own the media in the USA are all leftie pinko liberals? I think you, as a student, should do your research more carefully.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #47 January 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteBush, if you think a dem. is going to win after the capture of Saddam, an upswing begining in the economy, and tax cuts, you may be in for a small shock. A Newsweek poll places it a statistical dead heat with a slight edge to that Dem if it were to be decorated war hero John Kerry. Look at your source and who funds it. Most of the media and polls are put out by the left. Isn't it just amazing that those capitalists who own the media in the USA are all leftie pinko liberals? I think you, as a student, should do your research more carefully. So are you insulting or agreeing?Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdwhalen 0 #48 January 26, 2004 Yeah, Rupert Murdoch, that pinko."I have magic buttons ;)." skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #49 January 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteBush, if you think a dem. is going to win after the capture of Saddam, an upswing begining in the economy, and tax cuts, you may be in for a small shock. A Newsweek poll places it a statistical dead heat with a slight edge to that Dem if it were to be decorated war hero John Kerry. Look at your source and who funds it. Most of the media and polls are put out by the left. Isn't it just amazing that those capitalists who own the media in the USA are all leftie pinko liberals? I think you, as a student, should do your research more carefully. So are you insulting or agreeing? I'm suggesting you exercise your critical thinking skills instead of repeating a mantra that defies reality.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #50 January 26, 2004 QuoteI like Clark.. I've seen him speak a few times.. He is veteraned, honest and very intelligent... He attained the rank of General for Gods sake.. I think Clark should be Pres and Colin Powell Vice Pres.. That would be a great combination.. becoming a general nowdays simply means you kept your nose clean, never tried (or never failed and got caught) anything risky, and are already a good politician. I briefed Clark twice during OJE, he while certainly wasn’t a bad general (he asked rather specific questions, most don’t) but he didnt seem all that interested in the actual answers, he had already made his decisions before and wasn’t considering anything contrary at that point... that personality type and attitude scares me from in any leadership position i've met both (although i had more interaction with Clark) Powell at least seems to be a man who accepts he doesnt always have all the information needed to make the best decisions.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
