Aviatrr 0 #1 January 25, 2004 http://kimmershow.com/SupportFiles/Scripts/FileTamer.asp?FileID=999 Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlie 0 #2 January 25, 2004 WW!!! That'll teach him to watch his altitude next time. Good thing his Cypres was onMy other ride is the relative wind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #3 January 26, 2004 oops.. At least he got out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #4 January 26, 2004 we werr talking about that very video at work the other day. got a guy that used to work with the thunderbirds as a crew chief. if you watch the video carefully you ill see the pilot reach a couple tmes with his left hand for the ejection handle between his legs before he actualy ejects................ he was low on altitude when he started his loop.... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 January 26, 2004 At least the crash recovery people only needed to find little airplane parts and did not have to find little pilot parts all over the desert.. that duty sucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #6 January 26, 2004 QuoteAt least the crash recovery people only needed to find little airplane parts and did not have to find little pilot parts all over the desert.. that duty sucks. Tell me about it! I was shift lead in the ER at Nellis in the late 70s when the diamond went in during a training show. No fun at all. Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, more money. Why do they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racenic 0 #7 January 26, 2004 That Happened this past Fall. I went to the Edwards Air Show in October and they hadn't replaced the plane yet, so the show over all sucked. They only flew the 4 man diamond and one solo plane. Nice Video to bad it doesn't show the deployment of the chute... Nick Nick D The key to Immortality is- first living a life worth remembering” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #8 January 26, 2004 Is that the ejection that happened last year at a Show?? As I recall it was the pilots first year with the team and he had an engine failure or big loss of power that caused him to have to punch out right before the impact. One thing that is cool is how low he was when he punched. I think I saw/heard/read that you could eject from the ground and still get a chute. At least it was something close to that statment.... Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #9 January 26, 2004 my computer is gay and won't let me stream videos... can anyone post a direct link to the .wmv or .mpg or whatever it is. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #10 January 26, 2004 http://kimmershow.com/fileTamer/eject.mpg Try that"He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDRINF 1 #11 January 26, 2004 ...And here is an external shot. Talk about a kick in the pants exit! CDR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 January 26, 2004 Low altitude split-s = bad idea.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #13 January 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteAt least the crash recovery people only needed to find little airplane parts and did not have to find little pilot parts all over the desert.. that duty sucks. Tell me about it! I was shift lead in the ER at Nellis in the late 70s when the diamond went in during a training show. No fun at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah! I had to help with that unpleasant duty when a T-33 went in near Peggy's Cove. Fortunately all I found were a few fuel tank parts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #14 January 26, 2004 Quote One thing that is cool is how low he was when he punched. I think I saw/heard/read that you could eject from the ground and still get a chute. At least it was something close to that statment.... The ejection seats in all modern aircraft are known as zero-zero seats, most made by Martin Baker, IIRC. They are designed for a survivable ejection at zero airspeed and zero altitude. Most of the seats are self righting, as well....so if a pilot ejects while in any attitude other than perfectly upright, the seat will "fly" itself upright. Supposedly, if a plane is completely inverted, this will occur with less than 300' altitude loss...pretty damn impressive if ya ask me.. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #15 January 26, 2004 Quotezero airspeed and zero altitude yup.. saw a pilot eject when i was in germany outa an A-10 doing about 100knts at 0 agl.(not enought room to take off, not enough room to land).. he went up about 300 ft and then started to decend under his parachute......very fast...... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #16 January 26, 2004 It also happened to one of the UK Red Arrows towards the end of training and prior to the air show season. There was an engine fault as he was hurtling down the runway in formation with the rest of the team and he ejected as the rest of them left the runway. Luckily he was on the outside of the formation and the team flew with 7 that year instead of the usual 9 as there wasn't enough time to train up another pilot for the slot. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoudDan 0 #17 January 26, 2004 This is not a "meet your maker with Martin Baker" F-16's have ACES II by MacyDEE Coming soon to a bowl of Wheaties near you!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooth 0 #18 January 26, 2004 More than you ever wanted to know about ejection seats . . . http://www.ejectionsite.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #19 January 26, 2004 QuoteIs that the ejection that happened last year at a Show?? As I recall it was the pilots first year with the team and he had an engine failure or big loss of power that caused him to have to punch out right before the impact. I read that he had forgotten to adjust his altimeter. Either way, he was heads up getting the plane pointed away from the crowd and saving his own life.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #20 January 26, 2004 QuoteOne thing that is cool is how low he was when he punched. I think I saw/heard/read that you could eject from the ground and still get a chute. It depends. The ejection seats are "zero-zero", meaning that theoretically you can use them from zero altitude and zero airspeed, and it will save you. However, other factors are involved. For example, if you have a fast downward trajectory, the downward throw might negate, or surpass, the upward push of the rocket seat. Or if the plane is rolling, and you eject sideways, it might now save you. Some of the newer seats are "altitude seeking", meaning that the seat rocket will gimbal to push the seat upwards away from the earth, regardless of the orientation of the plane at the time of ejection. So you can punch out while rolling sideways, and the seat senses which way is "up", turns the rocket motor, and pushes you up perpendicular from the earth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Praetorian 1 #21 January 26, 2004 Either way, he was heads up getting the plane pointed away from the crowd and saving his own life*** United states Airshow regulations state that the "velocity vector" of any aircraft in the show cannot be pointed towards the audience, so if they are following the rules the pilot can punch out or smash the plane into the ground without fear of taking out the stands Good Judgment comes from experience...a lot of experience comes from bad judgment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #22 January 26, 2004 QuoteUnited states Airshow regulations state that the "velocity vector" of any aircraft in the show cannot be pointed towards the audience Rules are great. Sometimes pilots aren't in control of their aircraft's "velocity vector". I think the fact that the pilot stayed in control of the aircraft and even banked a little to the left to add a margin of safety (per the USAF report) before he ejected was heads up.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #23 January 27, 2004 QuoteAt least the crash recovery people only needed to find little airplane parts and did not have to find little pilot parts all over the desert.. that duty sucks. Been there, done that (crash recovery after dual F-15 midair in 1983 in Germany). mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #24 January 27, 2004 Damn that was fast. Wonder how many G's the pilot is under when the ejection seat shoots out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #25 January 27, 2004 Why train another pilot,,why not just get another plane?smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
