elfanie 0 #1 January 23, 2004 article clicky what's your opinion? Do you have one? -------------------------------------------- Elfanie My Skydiving Page Fly Safe - Soft Landings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #2 January 23, 2004 I definitely have an opinion-- a very strong one, but I don't know how I feel about sharing it. Maybe I'll get out my bowl of popcorn and watch for a minute, then join in . . . I'm a wuss . . . Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #3 January 23, 2004 Reverse racism at it's finest. Apply for a scholarship from the NAACP and you'll get laughed at, but if we form anything for "caucasions" then we are racist. It's a catch 22. Can't win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygal3 0 #4 January 23, 2004 Ummm...maybe I read it wrong, or this sinus pressure is killing my brain cells, .. but why is the school holding an african american award thinger anyway? Isn't that racist all in itself? Honestly though, he is technically an "african american" and just maybe by him running he was showing his racial school that "african american" does not have to mean "skin color". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JRock 0 #5 January 23, 2004 I agree.... I will chime in my 2 cents... I don't care if you are black, white, red, yellow, or polka dot... If you are cool.. you are cool... if you are an asshole... you are an asshole. Period. Race has nothing to do with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian84 0 #6 January 23, 2004 Well he is African..... To me it would be like someone being told they're not Irish because they're black.....nonsense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRus 0 #7 January 23, 2004 I say the kid was right to run. If he is from South Afrca then he is just as African (or possibly moreso) than anyone else who would try to claim it based on the color of their skin. Having an award designed for an Ethnic group is one of the most racist things anyone can do anymore. I agree that back when segregation was more of an issue that these awards might have been more necessary, but try having a competition that excludes any of them and see how much free publicity you get. Anyone wanting to flame me may as well take it to PMs though... I ain't coming back here to look. I said my piece... and for the record, I am not a racist. I know trash in all colors and I also know classy people in all colors. Yeah, it's fine, we'll walk down the line. Leave our rain, a cold trade for warm sunshine You my friend, I will defend... and if we change, well, I love you anyway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #8 January 23, 2004 I really don't like to comment on issues like this because is a neverending story, however, I'm gonna break my silence and give my opinion. The kid is from Africa and he's in America, so is safe to say that he considers himself as an African-American, no problem there, however, who said that ALL africans are black?, that's just silly, moreover, you have to be black to call yourself African-American? silliness again, that's just another example of this P.C crap and 1-way racism.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #9 January 23, 2004 None of your comments are racist. I agree one hundred percent. Though I truly beleive the kid is bullshitting when he says "I'm as African as...." As if he didn't know the "African American" meant "Black" in this case. He prolly thought he'd get a bunch o' laughs out of it... and he should have! The whole thing is a joke. I agree, let's see a school present a "Best Caucasian Student Award" and watch the pitchfork/torch mobs start gathering. F*ck it, burn the school down. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hmatousek 0 #10 January 23, 2004 I have a strong opinion on this one. My best friend is South African and I have always said she is African American. It is not insensitive, as the article stated the school thought of the posters, it just is. It is not a matter of being PC, it's the truth. Those students should not have gotten in trouble. As far as the article described there were no rules set up for the award except that you had to be an African American, which the boy was. It doesn't take a genius to figure this one out. HeatherLife doesn't have to be perfect in order to be beautiful! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePhelps 0 #11 January 23, 2004 Don't you know by now? You can say or do anything you want to White Anglo-Saxon Males and it is NOT discrimination. In fact in many areas (such as this article proves) it is encouraged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #12 January 23, 2004 My opinion: Well, first off the school should not have this award unless they have an American American award. IMO, the kid was completely in the right for running. All hell would break loose if we had a white person only award, but there seems to be quite a few black only awards. Just doesn't seem fair. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hmatousek 0 #13 January 23, 2004 Then I know you disagreed with me however kids do need to know that some Africans are white. I had 100 kids floored when my S. African friend walked in and she was white. They could not believe she had white parents. I think this just increased awareness. I can share many other horrible things that kids do to one and other and they only get a slap on the hand. This should have been no different.Life doesn't have to be perfect in order to be beautiful! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #14 January 23, 2004 Ok, just want to point out that he is not only "as African as any . . . " he is MORE African than a United-States-born-and-raised black person. He might have been doing it to prove a point, or it is entirely possible that he is just that stupid and didn't know (granted, that is doubtful, since he has been here 6 years.) I had a friend in high school who was South African, as well as black, and she had a small problem with the term "African-American" being used to categorize all black Americans. Whatever . . . this is pointless. Just ignore me. Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caress 0 #15 January 23, 2004 I agree with Ivan, who says that you have to be black to African-American? To suspend the child for running-WRONG. What are we teaching these kids by doing this? I hope that something positive comes out of this incident. Life is not fair, I don't need proof of that it rears its ugly head everyday to remind me!-Caress I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JRock 0 #16 January 23, 2004 And for that matter.... why isn't there a Guys Only Post area? I think that is a little descriminating as well.... what the broads get their own place at DZ.com and we are not good enough? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #17 January 23, 2004 Well they suspended him because they felt that his actions were ill intended. That just goes to show that the first thing that his school's staff thought of was....... racism... Somebody get Jesse on the phone, he'll sort all of this out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #18 January 23, 2004 It's called Talkback-- Boobs, hotties, etc. Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JRock 0 #19 January 23, 2004 Good point..... mmmmmmm boobies...... ha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #20 January 23, 2004 Yup... I'd prefer not to see a "wangers" thread anytime soon... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBachelor 5 #21 January 23, 2004 QuoteI really don't like to comment on issues like this because is a neverending story, however, I'm gonna break my silence and give my opinion. The kid is from Africa and he's in America, so is safe to say that he considers himself as an African-American, no problem there, however, who said that ALL africans are black?, that's just silly, moreover, you have to be black to call yourself African-American? silliness again, that's just another example of this P.C crap and 1-way racism. I couldn't have said it better.There are battered women? I've been eating 'em plain all of these years... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #22 January 23, 2004 Yet another instance of people being promoted to (and beyond) the level of their incompetence. The Peter Principle.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #23 January 23, 2004 First off, the school shouldn't have awards based on race. Second, personally, I hate the term "African-American" when referring to every person in the US with black skin. Its simply inaccurate. My friend Jermaine is from Belize, in South America. He has FITS when called an "African American" because: 1. he isn't African, and 2. he isn't American. He's a citizen of Belize here on a green card. He refuses to answer any of the "racial" questions because the answers there simply don't apply. He's obviously not white, isn't Asian, isn't from the Pacific Islands, isn't Hispanic/Latino, and isn't African/American. I've even heard on this website the term "African American British Guy" WTF is an African American British Guy??? he's either African, American, or British, not all three! For some reason, we seem to feel compelled to differentiate people by skin color, which is external, rather than culture, which is more internal. If you're using the term "African-American" to mean someone who is originally from Africa, or has roots there, and is now an American citizen, fine. that's accurate. If you are using it simply because someone has black skin, you may be wrong. There are people with black skin in many places other than Africa. Separating people by race simply doesn't make any sense, because the lines are too blurred. Acknowledge culture, ignore race. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoudDan 0 #24 January 23, 2004 As far as revers racism....there is no such thing, i is racism plain and simple. I know we won't see Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson coming to the aid of this African American (although they claim to support all African Americans). I like this kid, I think this wa a long overdue reality check. Andy Anderson has a great story about walking into a McDonalds and having the African american discussion with the all black staff, it shilarious. Buy him a few beers, and he'll tell ya all about it. Coming soon to a bowl of Wheaties near you!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #25 January 23, 2004 No no, I DO agree with you... I'm just saying the kid must have known the award was for Blacks (That in itself is total BS and can fill several threads in itself but..). I'm SURE the kid knew it was for blacks and that this was either: a)to make a point ala "Not all Africans are black" or b)to make a joke ala "Nominate this skinny white boy for the 'best Black Studen' Award" In neither of these cases should he have been suspended. I DO agree with you. I'm just saying the kid is now playing naive. "African American" means "Black" in the U.S. However, now that "Black" is an acceptable term for 'em... we should start calling Blacks Blacks again. Not all Africans are black. Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
