Enlarging harness

[Airviking 0]

I just took delivery of a used rig. It's pretty much ideal for me in every respect except harness size. It is waaay too small and the legstrap buckles are at my waist.

What are the chances of getting a Talon Classic modified to increase the harness size? It looks like a big job to me, but I'm no expert. If I can't get it done for a couple of hundred bucks, I gotta send it back to the seller.

BTW, I contacted Rigging Innovations by e-mail asking the same question, but I don't expect an answer until Monday, so I figured I'd throw it out there.

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[PhreeZone 20]

Most master riggers are able to do this type of work on a harness but you are looking at the cost being 150 to 350 for the cost depending on if the harness is already articulated or not and depending on the amount of work. This is something the factory will need to authorize since there are very specific methods for RI harnesses. Ask to see what RI will charge to see if the cost is worth it or not

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[theonlyski 8]

Adding to what Eric said, read THIS for more info on whats involved... The info is from mirage, so RI might be different. (Definatly different model names and such)

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[Beatnik 2]

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BTW, I contacted Rigging Innovations by e-mail asking the same question, but I don't expect an answer until Monday, so I figured I'd throw it out there.

Rigging Innovations is closed for the holidays until 3 Jan 11. You might not get an answer from them until after the holidays.

[Andy9o8 2]

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Enlarging harness

Here's a product that might help!

http://www.condomdepot.com/content/product/large/extenze_depot.jpg

[Airviking 0]

Thank you all, especially Andy.

Looking at the mirage document, they make no distinction between lengthening and shortening the main lift web, and say that changing the length of the main lift web is one of the least expensive resizing operations. This gives me some hope that I might be able to get this done within budget.

Now, back to my Christmas baking. (Yeah...Wanna make something of it?!)

-Cheers!

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[theonlyski 8]

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Looking at the mirage document, they make no distinction between lengthening and shortening the main lift web, and say that changing the length of the main lift web is one of the least expensive resizing operations.

IF you have chest and hip rings... its a simple change... if not and you're trying to lengthen the MLW, its not going to be that easy.

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[PhreeZone 20]

Modifying the MLW on a non-ringed harness basically is a rebuild of the entire harness. On a ringed harness it is a lot easier.

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[Airviking 0]

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Modifying the MLW on a non-ringed harness basically is a rebuild of the entire harness. On a ringed harness it is a lot easier.

Yep, I'm starting to get that. But I'll hang onto the rig until I get a chance to talk to RI after the holidays. I'll send them some pictures with me wearing the rig. Meanwhile, I'll continue my search.

Cheers!

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[mark 107]

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I just took delivery of a used rig. It's pretty much ideal for me in every respect except harness size. It is waaay too small and the legstrap buckles are at my waist.

What are the chances of getting a Talon Classic modified to increase the harness size? It looks like a big job to me, but I'm no expert. If I can't get it done for a couple of hundred bucks, I gotta send it back to the seller.

BTW, I contacted Rigging Innovations by e-mail asking the same question, but I don't expect an answer until Monday, so I figured I'd throw it out there.

The Talon Classic is an accuracy rig, isn't it? Reserve container sized for an adequate landing, main container sized for a huge main? The proportions are quite different for an accuracy rig compared to a FS or freefly rig.

If so, and you're getting the harness re-sized because you like the size of the main container, can you get a big enough reserve to fit?

Mark

[Airviking 0]

Thanks for the heads-up. The rig currently has a 200sqft Fury reserve and a 220 Spectre, so it isn't too out of proportion.

Never the less, I'm 95% sure I'll need to let go of the idea of modifying the rig.

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[riggerrob 643]

If it is a simple harness (e.g. no hip or chest rings), then re-sizing can be as simple as popping all the stitching in the hip joints, sliding them up or down the MLW and re-sewing.

If hip rings are involved, re-sizing usually means replacing the MLWs from the top of the reserve risers all the way down to the hip rings, a job best done with factory templates.

If the harness has hip and chest rings, you may only have to replace the webbing between the hip and chest rings, but the job is still best done with factory templates.

[davelepka 4]

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Never the less, I'm 95% sure I'll need to let go of the idea of modifying the rig

Depends on the price of the rig. Keep in mind that after re-sizing, you will have what is essentially a custom fit harness, and depending on the type of harness it might be an all-new custom fit harness, and you'll never find another used rig with one of those. You might never even find another used rig that even comes close to a the fit of a built-to-you harness.

If everything else is perfect, such as the container sizes, canopy sizes and condition of all of the above, then don't write off the idea of paying for the resize. The difference in price may be worth the benefit of the brand-new, factory built and inspected custom fit harness.

Look at it this way, if the next rig you find costs $200 more, you just gave up the new custom fit harness for less then $200 difference, and you have to live with whatever you get on that rig. For a guy who's not planning to downsize, and swap this rig for a smaller one in a year or two, it's an even better idea to have to built to your specs.

[davelepka 4]

Two other quick points, first, if the rig is sized for 200-ish square foot main and reserve, then having a 'man' sized harness might make it easier to sell when the time comes.

Second, you might be able to negotiate some of the cost of the resize off the price of the rig. You have the rig already, want to buy, are ready to pay, but you're facing a bill for the re-size that sours the deal for you. The owner could have the rig shipped back and go through the trouble of re-listing it, and dealing with endless e-mails and more shipping to unknown buyers, or they could work with you, and get a check for the rig within a few days minus $150 or $200 to cover a portion of the resize.

[freakflyer9999 1]

A number of years ago, I bought an old Vector student container for $100. Took it to the manufacturer to have the ripcord/static line stuff removed, new BOC pouch, velcro replaced and a complete new harness. It was over $500, but I ended up with exactly what I wanted for less than $700 total.
I wouldn't recommend this for most, but it fit my needs at the time.

[JerryBaumchen 1,436]

Hi viking,

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The rig currently has a 200sqft Fury reserve

http://flightconceptsint.com/reserves

If it is a Fury reserve then it is 220 sq ft. Or it could be a Maverick reserve at 200 sq ft.

Take a look at the Packing Data Card or the label on the canopy. Or talk to the seller.

JerryBaumchen

[bisqit999 0]

i bought a used rig that was way to big for me. A master rigger replaced the harness on it to fit me for I think it was $600. Since I got a good deal on it in the first place I thought it was worth it and now the harness is custom fit for me.