ChileRelleno 0 #1 January 16, 2004 This was forwarded to me by a family member and I thought I'd share with y'all, I've not forgotten and it still brings a tear to my eyes. This is for all those who ask why our armed forces are fighting and dying. Make sure you sound is on... http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #2 January 16, 2004 Very moving tribute Chile... They forgot what to me is a very apt and timely quote in regards to our war on terror: "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" --Patrick Henry Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #3 January 16, 2004 It's not a bad tribute. I'm not really a fan of how it seemingly tries to "instill fear" into it's viewers. But it's an okay production I suppose. Thanks for sharing. -Kramer The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirCav 0 #4 January 16, 2004 Great post ,Thanks Chile.GW685,D3888,C5052,SCS843 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #5 January 16, 2004 What is the name of the first sound track played. It sounds really cool. I would love to D/L it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #6 January 16, 2004 Sorry....couldn't watch the whole thing. When the pics started to come up I just got all pissed off. It amazes me that EVERY DAY I have to put up with some airline employees petty bullshit. I wish I could sit each one of them down and have them watch this every time they act stupid. Airline policies and employees these days are aiding terrorists. PERIOD. I just hope these behavior doesn't get me or anyone else killed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dustin19d 0 #7 January 16, 2004 That day changed my life and lifestyle like I couldnt imagin. Yes it still brings tears to my eyes too. And It pisses me off when people dont understand why out armed forces are doing what they are doing, or question what our armed forces are doing!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #8 January 16, 2004 sighhhhhhh.... It moved me a lot. Pictures of grieving people are the worst.... But............ __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pick 0 #9 January 16, 2004 QuoteSorry....couldn't watch the whole thing. When the pics started to come up I just got all pissed off. It amazes me that EVERY DAY I have to put up with some airline employees petty bullshit. I wish I could sit each one of them down and have them watch this every time they act stupid. Airline policies and employees these days are aiding terrorists. PERIOD. I just hope these behavior doesn't get me or anyone else killed. Gee.......I'm glad I'm not an airline employee........oh, wait......I still am....THANK GOD! I know a few hard-working folks (even veterans) that aren't anymore. Yes, I do also fly as a passenger, and I think I know what you probably meant........I think. PM me with specifics. At the moment, you've lumped me, as an airline employee, into a group with terrorists.....THANKS! I'll try to refrain from personal attacks at this point. PERIOD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #10 January 16, 2004 Sorry....can't really air any more dirty laundry........Airline execs, unions, and gate agents are the worst offenders. Flight crews themselves are OK. They have a MUCH more obvious stake in the game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pick 0 #11 January 16, 2004 QuoteSorry....can't really air any more dirty laundry........Airline execs, unions, and gate agents are the worst offenders. Flight crews themselves are OK. They have a MUCH more obvious stake in the game. So it's OK to use a broad stroke to trash "us" here? (hint: most flight crews are union.......not to be contradictory or anything.) I asked for a PM with specifics........do you want it fixed or do you simply have a desire to complain? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #12 January 16, 2004 OK, you two don't be hijacking my thread, kiss and play nice ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #13 January 16, 2004 I remember that day vividly, and I will never forget. Watching that brought back that day - and the days immediately following it - back in a way I wish it hadn't. It's not like I want to forget. Never that. It's not as if I want to think, "well, it's not so bad". Never that. I cannot forget. I hear their souls still screaming. And still, a healing has begun in my heart, a coming to terms with the murder of my civilian countrymen, the brutal attack on a populace that did not deserve this. An understanding that the world moves on - not to forget, but to rebuild, to live better, to create value from this horrendous event, somehow create a legacy which will honor and love those lost through eternity. To take those steps to protect ourselves, yes, and also to move forward to a place where we continue to thrive, continue to live free, continue to have the most amazing country in the world. I will always remember, always grieve those lost, and always look to the future. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #14 January 16, 2004 That's the why of the fighting in Iraq, here's the how. North of Bahgdad, 12/01/03: http://staff.washington.edu/bfiguero/Movies/longapache.avi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickMcMahon 0 #15 January 16, 2004 Rabbi Irwin Kula has an interesting way of remembering Sept 11th. Here's what he says ... These are final conversations that were recorded on cell phones, recorded on voice mail. They seem to me to be incredible texts, because they were at the moment of confronting life or death. They're so pure about the expression of love between husband and wife, between mother and child. ... When I read them, I just felt they were texts as sacred as the text that we end up having recorded, that we transmit from generation to generation. I read these every single morning now, or most mornings, because they remind me that whatever my tradition is about; it's about this. It's about being able to express love. It's about being able to understand, taking care of our children. It's about being in real, genuine friendships. They just seem so real to me. ... [Singing]: "Honey. Something terrible is happening. I don't think I'm going to make it. I love you. Take care of the children." "Hey, Jules. It's Brian. I'm on the plane and it's hijacked and it doesn't look good. I just wanted to let you know that I love you, and I hope to see you again. If I don't, please have fun in life, and live life the best you can. Know that I love you, and no matter what, I'll see you again." "Mommy. The building is on fire. There's smoke coming through the walls. I can't breathe. I love you, Mommy. Good-bye." "I love you a thousand times over and over. I love and need whatever decisions you make in your lives. I need you to be happy, and I will respect any decisions you make." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #16 January 16, 2004 QuoteSorry....couldn't watch the whole thing. When the pics started to come up I just got all pissed off. It amazes me that EVERY DAY I have to put up with some airline employees petty bullshit. I wish I could sit each one of them down and have them watch this every time they act stupid. Airline policies and employees these days are aiding terrorists. PERIOD. I just hope these behavior doesn't get me or anyone else killed. What are you refering to? What is your occupation? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #17 January 16, 2004 Good movie! Bad guys got it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #18 January 16, 2004 QuoteThat's the why of the fighting in Iraq, WRONG WRONG WRONG! It's why we are in Afghanistan. President Bush himself has stated that there is no evidence of any Iraqi involvement in the WTC/Pentagon terrorist attacks.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #19 January 16, 2004 It was a wonderful tribute and it prompted a moment of reflection in me. I'm not downplaying it at all. However let me share a pet peeve of mine with you: Movies like this that say "This could be your house"... "This could be your daughter" to instil anger in us. My mind always wanders to images of the retaliation. And how different the captions are. There are more then two sides to any battle and everyone is somebodies child. Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdD 1 #20 January 16, 2004 QuoteThat's the why of the fighting in Iraq, here's the how. That was the most morbid and morally disgusting manipulations of people's grief I have ever seen. I stopped it where it showed the lady falling. It is a blatant call to arms based on the exploitation of this fear, and represents exactly what I hate about those who are exploiting 9-11 to justify war in the middle east. There were some 3000 civilians killed in the bombing of afghanistan, according to this source. http://www.cursor.org/stories/casualty_count.htm More died as a result of Bush demanding that food and medical aid be cut off on September 16, 2001, while 7.5 million were on the brink of starvation. Is this truly a fitting memorial to the victims of 9-11?Life is ez On the dz Every jumper's dream 3 rigs and an airstream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #21 January 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteThat's the why of the fighting in Iraq, WRONG WRONG WRONG! It's why we are in Afghanistan. President Bush himself has stated that there is no evidence of any Iraqi involvement in the WTC/Pentagon terrorist attacks. Yeah, I'm happy to be on the side of the PhD here. I'm sorry but 9/11 had nothing to do with invading Iraq aside from making it politically popular/feasible. 15 of 19 hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia, you don't see us invading them do you? Ha, no, we love the Saudis! Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #22 January 16, 2004 I agree with you 100 % Yes the loss of life was sad and disturbing. But the loss of any life is sad and disturbing. I wonder if poaple took the time to show all the deaths we (or our government) is responsible for if it would maybe change the way we see the world and the world sees us. Many people died that day RIP to all. We have been responsible for many many more deaths RIP to them and may god forgive us.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonomous 0 #23 January 16, 2004 Don't forget that those 19 hijackers gave their lives for what they believe in, no matter how far away from our frame of mind theirs may be. They gave their lives in pure hatred for the US and it is how the US is perceived that needs to be remedied in order to stop the bloodshed. As to how this is best achieved is up to individual belief, but personally I believe that the invasion of Afghanistan both weakened the terrorists abilities and strengthened their will. This in the long run will not benifit the US. Almost all countries are hypocritical in their foreign policies and the way forward is to admitt this and seek to make decisions with all people in mind. That's my two inches of ivory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #24 January 16, 2004 LOL, it only took 19 posts before someone started bashing the US in a thread trying to pay tribute to the 9/11 dead. I find that disgusting. QuoteIs this truly a fitting memorial to the victims of 9-11? I'm assuming that a "fitting memorial" would have been for the US to apologize to the world for creating conditions that caused 19 idiots to crash three planes and kill 3,000 people? After this apology we could stick our heads back in the sand like we did after the first WTC bombing, a failed assassination plan on the former President Bush, the Khobar Towers bombing, the USS Cole bombing, the African Embassy bombings, and repeated aggressive acts toward our pilots in Iraq trying to patrol the no fly zones. It just doesn't seem to me that the "other way" was working. Maybe the group that created the conditions requiring us to invade Afghanistan share some of the responsibility for the civilian deaths in that country. That reasoning seems to work well with other arguments from the "blame America first" crowd. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #25 January 16, 2004 QuoteLOL, it only took 19 posts before someone started bashing the US in a thread trying to pay tribute to the 9/11 dead. I find that disgusting. QuoteIs this truly a fitting memorial to the victims of 9-11? I'm assuming that a "fitting memorial" would have been for the US to apologize to the world for creating conditions that caused 19 idiots to crash three planes and kill 3,000 people? After this apology we could stick our heads back in the sand like we did after the first WTC bombing, a failed assassination plan on the former President Bush, the Khobar Towers bombing, the USS Cole bombing, the African Embassy bombings, and repeated aggressive acts toward our pilots in Iraq trying to patrol the no fly zones. It just doesn't seem to me that the "other way" was working. Maybe the group that created the conditions requiring us to invade Afghanistan share some of the responsibility for the civilian deaths in that country. That reasoning seems to work well with other arguments from the "blame America first" crowd. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Quote Seems like you're complaining and criticizing.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 1 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
