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As you should be. I wish more fathers took that approach to raising kids instead of turning in to "dead beat dad's" and walk out on both kids and marriage. Ya have my respect on that one!!



Statistically their are more dead beat moms than dads.. I was suprised when I found that out..

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And if you do it wrong ?:
ATTENTION SMOKERS AND FRIENDS OF SMOKERS
Every smoker has done it; either you're distracted by a conversation you are having, you're driving and trying to keep an eye on the road, you're in a poorly lit bar, or you've simply had a few too many drinks in a well lit bar. However it happens, every smoker occasionally lights the wrong end of his or her cigarette, inhales one nasty lungfull of burning filter, curses, throws the now useless thing to the ground, and lights up a fresh smoke. .



False. http://www.snopes.com/toxins/filter.htm




lovely urban rumor...but i will warn every smoker i may meet, (not that i believe its any worse for your health its just really amusing to watch and i figure my amusement is worth the second hand smoke you give me so....)

if you leave your pack of cigarettes out on the table or otherwise 'unattended' i will flip the whole pack around just to increase the odds of you lighting one backwards...

there is a cool giggle feeling i get everytime one of my smoking friends say 'damn it randy!!'

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As you should be. I wish more fathers took that approach to raising kids instead of turning in to "dead beat dad's" and walk out on both kids and marriage. Ya have my respect on that one!!



Statistically their are more dead beat moms than dads.. I was suprised when I found that out..

Rhino



Really??? Just goes to show you learn something new every day ...

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I wish more fathers took that approach to raising kids instead of turning in to "dead beat dad's" and walk out on both kids and marriage.



Most men that I know are good fathers. >:(

Only single people say that. The concept that you are an irresponsible man if you walk out on your marriage is ridiculous. Are men expected to just put up with whatever treatment they get and stay in a bad situation? That is an irrational expectation.

Walking out of a marriage is somehow equated to being selfish. It immediately assigns blame to the man and sainthood to the woman.

There are bad parents in both sexes. Getting divorced has little to do with it. A divorce just separates unhappy adults, it does not have anything to do with the quality of their relationship with their children.

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you are not an irresponsible man if you walk out on a marriage, nor is a woman irresponsible for doing the same.

All too often, however, walking out on a spouse means walking out on a child.

Personally, I'd rather see a parent who pays no child support because they just can't afford it, but gives the child emotional support and stability than someone who sends their check every month on time, but never even sends the kid a birthday card.

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All too often, however, walking out on a spouse means walking out on a child.



I rarely see that. I didn't. My roommate didn't, his kids were just here for 2 weeks (mom moved to Tennessee), he talks to them twice a week.

My son didn't see it. My son has lived with me since his mom threw him out 15 days after the last support check cleared.

My whole point is that men are routinely categorized as bad parents and "deadbeat dads". I see just the opposite. I see good fathers everywhere, but that doesn't make interesting reading in the press.

I don't think that paying "ex-wife support" is related to being a good parent either, since it doesn't necessarily benefit the child.

I also personally know the "Number one - deadbeat dad in Florida" (according to the paper). Rated by the amount of child support owed. The paper didn't talk to either parent or the children before publishing the story. No facts necessary.

We could all come up with horror stories that go both ways. I don't see a point in that. My only point is that most of the guys that I know are good parents.

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I noticed. However, the original poster was speaking about "most men" and "dead beat dad" as the sex who was walking out. I was elaborating on my original thought.

I get a little "involved" in the topic, can you tell? :$

I figure that it would hit a similar nerve if someone posted "most women...". This one just happens to light me up.

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Only single people say that. The concept that you are an irresponsible man if you walk out on your marriage is ridiculous.



I don't think that's what he meant.. You took it wrong.. Some men DO walk out on marriages.. Good ones.. And some WOMEN do the same.. He wasn't labeling all men..

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I rarely see that. I didn't. My roommate didn't, his kids were just here for 2 weeks (mom moved to Tennessee), he talks to them twice a week.



Talks to them twice a week? You call that a relationship?? Shame on the mom for taking the children further away from the father and shame on the father for allowing it to happen..


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My only point is that most of the guys that I know are good parents.



PLease tell me what a "good parent" is to you? How do you tell the difference between a man that is a good parent and a man that isn't? And is your opinion based on what you see behind closed doors or in public?

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I wish more fathers took that approach to raising kids instead of turning in to "dead beat dad's" and walk out on both kids and marriage.



I guess things are different here. Over seas it tends to be the other way around.
And I don't think thats a single statement ... unless I got divorced over night LOL ...
Most men that I know are good fathers. >:(

Only single people say that. The concept that you are an irresponsible man if you walk out on your marriage is ridiculous. Are men expected to just put up with whatever treatment they get and stay in a bad situation? That is an irrational expectation.

Walking out of a marriage is somehow equated to being selfish. It immediately assigns blame to the man and sainthood to the woman.

There are bad parents in both sexes. Getting divorced has little to do with it. A divorce just separates unhappy adults, it does not have anything to do with the quality of their relationship with their children.

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Only single people say that. The concept that you are an irresponsible man if you walk out on your marriage is ridiculous.



I don't think that's what he meant.. You took it wrong.. Some men DO walk out on marriages.. Good ones.. And some WOMEN do the same.. He wasn't labeling all men..



Far from it actually. How about we re-write this as "Dead beat parents" since everyone seem who have taken this way too literally ???

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Talks to them twice a week? You call that a relationship??



He sees his kids for 6 weeks a year and talks to them twice a week. When your kids are 3 states away, I call that a relationship.

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Shame on the mom for taking the children further away from the father and shame on the father for allowing it to happen..



Allowing? Remember the thing called "the court". The court said two things. The woman got custody, the man pays support. He doesn't get to see his kids that much, he still pays no matter what. That is legal, I never confuse "legal" with "right" anymore.

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PLease tell me what a "good parent" is to you? How do you tell the difference between a man that is a good parent and a man that isn't? And is your opinion based on what you see behind closed doors or in public?



I base it on two things. What can you do? What are you doing?

My opinion is based on what is occurring in the childs life. Kids need mental/physical growth. There are several methods to provide both. Involvement comes in the form of sports, social activities, school.

My biggest gripe is parents who are "too busy", sit on the couch and watch tv. Then, later they complain that their kid found "something else" to do.

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