Layton 0 #1 January 12, 2004 im shopping for a new canopy and im looking for imput.im looking at saber2 and saffire2.which is the better canopy and why.ihave 130 jumps and i only weigh 140 lbs. right now im flying a falcon 175 and when the winds are around 15 i land backing up.im thinking about a saber2 135.or saffire2 in the same size.im a pretty conservative canopy pilot.***whats the worst thing that can happen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #2 January 12, 2004 I have never flown either of those canopies but I can say this....You'll never go wrong buying a PD product. Kolla will hook you up with a demo no problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefli 2 #3 January 12, 2004 PD's are great canopies. The Sabre2 flies well, but is more ground hungry than the Safire2. The Safire2 opens like a wet dream as most Icarus canopies. Dont cheat yourself out of giving an airlocked a try before you make up your mind. The Lotus is a spectacular canopy and in my mind, out performs the other 2. I have had all three, and with everything being equal performance wise, why not get an airlocked? 0.02. Edit to add: If you haven't jumped anything smaller than that 175 regularly, dont go as small as 135. Your just beggin for trouble. Stick with the 150 range. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #4 January 12, 2004 Second that - if you're going to try a Sabre2, also give the Lotus a try. Costs the same and flies pretty.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,031 #5 January 12, 2004 >im looking at saber2 and saffire2. I'd recommend you try both; they are similar in performance, but many prefer the "feel" of one (toggle pressure, opening performance etc) over the other. I've put ~600 jumps on a smaller Safire2 (actually a converted Safire 1) and am happy with it. One advantage the Safire2 has is Vectran lines, which will hold their trim (and thus the canopy's performance) for longer. I would also strongly recommend you try the Pilot. It is better behaved than either the Sabre2 or Safire2 in terms of openings, and lands about as well. It doesn't swoop as well (very short recovery arc) but it does an excellent job of landing you safely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #6 January 12, 2004 I've flown the Safire 2 and the Aerodyne Pilot (both 150s, and recommend you check out the Pilot too) and can tell you they're both outstanding canopies. As for downsizing, talk with those that know how you jump and get direct/real/live input. Going from a F111/175 to a ZP/135 is a huge jump, in size, and type of canopy.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Layton 0 #7 January 12, 2004 i have a friend that is going to let me fly her saber2 150 until i get used to it then im going to look at gling to a 135 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vt1977 0 #8 January 12, 2004 I currently jump a Spectre and I demoed the Pilot at Eloy which I loved! Definitely one to try. Bottom line is - demo everything you think you might be interested in and seek advice from your instructors with regard to what size to buy. Have fun with the demos! Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites