skydiverkeith 1 #1 February 1, 2011 Has anyone here seen a G4 with a skyhook. Yes, I know it's not offered, but it is doable, and I'm sure someone has...Blue skies, Keith Medlock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #2 February 1, 2011 QuoteHas anyone here seen a G4 with a skyhook. Yes, I know it's not offered, but it is doable, and I'm sure someone has... Yes, it's doable, illegal, but doable."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #3 February 1, 2011 Mirage is coming out with their own version of a Skyhook soon, I think. They're calling it like DRX or something, Direct Reserve Extraction, maybe, IIRC....They used to have a news update on their website but it disappeared a while ago. ETA: It's called Direct Reserve Extraction ETA2: I need to do homework before I post so hastily http://www.miragesys.com/photo-gallery/drx-direct-reserve-extraction-test-jump-pictures/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #4 February 1, 2011 QuoteMirage is coming out with their own version of a Skyhook soon, I think. They're calling it like DRX or something, Direct Reserve Extraction, maybe, IIRC....They used to have a news update on their website but it disappeared a while ago. ETA: It's called Direct Reserve Extraction ETA2: I need to do homework before I post so hastily http://www.miragesys.com/photo-gallery/drx-direct-reserve-extraction-test-jump-pictures/ http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4045882#4045882 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #5 February 1, 2011 QuoteQuoteMirage is coming out with their own version of a Skyhook soon, I think. They're calling it like DRX or something, Direct Reserve Extraction, maybe, IIRC....They used to have a news update on their website but it disappeared a while ago. ETA: It's called Direct Reserve Extraction ETA2: I need to do homework before I post so hastily http://www.miragesys.com/photo-gallery/drx-direct-reserve-extraction-test-jump-pictures/ http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4045882#4045882 Point goes to David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverkeith 1 #6 February 1, 2011 They've been bsing about the DRX for a long time now, hence my question about the skyhook. I've given up on the DRX...Blue skies, Keith Medlock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 February 1, 2011 To properly do the skyhook per UPT's design would involve adding an additional flap, modifying the reserve bridle, getting a piece of the machined metal for the skyhook and installing a Collins lanyard. All of that would then need to have been approved at each step of the way by the local FSDO and then drop tested to prove it works. Basically a whole new TSO would need to be applied for with the cost of thousands of dollars for all the work and paperwork. In short unless it comes from the factory you will not find it happening in the field. If you really want a Skyhook there are containers that have done the work and the testing you could by instead of your Mirage.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverkeith 1 #8 February 1, 2011 That sucks... I love my Mirage Blue skies, Keith Medlock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #9 February 1, 2011 If you encounter a situation where skyhook is absolutly needed, then you made some series of bad choice.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverkeith 1 #10 February 1, 2011 Right you are, sir.Blue skies, Keith Medlock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #11 February 1, 2011 But skyhook has one advantage at time of cutaway. Everything stays together and you only have to chase one thing.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan_d_sucks 0 #12 February 2, 2011 QuoteIf you encounter a situation where skyhook is absolutly needed, then you made some series of bad choice. But unfortunately, shit does happen. Whether it was a bad decision or not doesn't really matter to you in the moment, if you find yourself in that situation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,426 #13 February 2, 2011 H Phree, QuoteAll of that would then need to have been approved at each step of the way by the local FSDO and then drop tested to prove it works. Basically a whole new TSO would need to be applied for with the cost of thousands of dollars for all the work and paperwork. I disagree. Bill Booth himself readily says that he did not submit the SkyHook to the FAA. He has told me that he does not believe that he has altered the parachute system that is certificated. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #14 February 2, 2011 I am really surprised that it did not at least need to get field approval for some of the changes like the extra flap being added.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 22 #15 February 2, 2011 Hi sdk, Wanna' skyhook?? 'Don't forget yer RSL, AAD and Jesus Cord too!!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #16 February 2, 2011 QuoteIf you encounter a situation where skyhook is absolutly needed, then you made some series of bad choice. You are correct. However I have resigned myself to the sad truth that, despite my opinion to the contrary as an eighteen year old, that is in fact a possibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #17 February 2, 2011 My friend joke about his superier skyhook system all the time. " I can work with my linetwist untill 500 ft." And " If someone hits my canopy while I'm at crosswind leg, I'll chop that shit right away." Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spootch 0 #18 February 2, 2011 Quote My friend joke about his superier skyhook system all the time. " I can work with my linetwist untill 500 ft." And " If someone hits my canopy while I'm at crosswind leg, I'll chop that shit right away." After viewing Mr Booths video of low skyhook deployments, asked me if I would pack his reserve with the slider down so he could "chop at 3 hundie" if need be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #19 February 2, 2011 Quote If someone hits my canopy while I'm at crosswind leg, I'll chop that shit right away." A few years ago, a jumper in final was hit from above by somebody making a hookturn. "So you honestly can say that it happened quite low " Her canopy was torn in 2 pieces. She cutaway and pulled reserve as fast as possible. Her slider was down a second before she landed. She never had time to release her brakes. So even if you do not make stupid mistakes, it is always possible that somebody makes them for you and try to kill you. More skydivers have been killed or injured in an accident/situation they thought would never happen to them (low pull, no pull, low hook turn, no leg straps, no leg straps, ...) One very important lesson: everybody will screw it up sooner or later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michalm21 2 #20 February 2, 2011 Quote Hi sdk, Wanna' skyhook?? 'Don't forget yer RSL, AAD and Jesus Cord too!! spoken like a true skygod Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #21 February 2, 2011 On two out of 14 skyhook equipped reserve rides I've had, the skyhook failed to function as intended resulting in a standard reserve deployment.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KellyF 16 #22 February 2, 2011 Quote A few years ago, a jumper in final was hit from above by somebody making a hookturn. "So you honestly can say that it happened quite low " Her canopy was torn in 2 pieces. She cutaway and pulled reserve as fast as possible. Her slider was down a second before she landed. She never had time to release her brakes. Was this with or without a skyhook? If it was with, I think (without knowing all the facts of the collision) that she put too much faith in the system, given the fact that it DOESN'T work all the time. Obviously she made a right choice, but every situation is different, and I hate for people to think that cutting away at 2-300 feet is a good "safe" option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 22 #23 February 2, 2011 Quote Quote Hi sdk, Wanna' skyhook?? 'Don't forget yer RSL, AAD and Jesus Cord too!! spoken like a true skygod Hi Mike, Thx but.... Ya' ferget ta' spell "Skygod" with a "Capital 'S!!'" However as an old Rigger workin' both in the Sport and Aerospace end of the business, I've seen more lanyards, loops and rat-trap mechanisms not to mention cutters, Creedisframs and oscillating Rotostats than you can imagine used on Parachutes of every kind!! Willy Booth did good with the "Skyhook," and who can forget the "3-Ring Circus!!" Only trouble with gadgets is maken' em' "Foolproof" cuz' Fools are so ingenious!!.......K.I.S.S.SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deyan 36 #24 February 2, 2011 QuoteBut skyhook has one advantage at time of cutaway. Everything stays together and you only have to chase one thing. Only about 80-90 % they stay together. And if you lose your main, your freebag goes as well. Blue skies"My belief is that once the doctor whacks you on the butt, all guarantees are off" Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #25 February 2, 2011 still that is alot easier then, following the main down and hoping that someone saw your freebag. if it stays together 80-90 percent of the time, means after 100 cutaways, you've only lost about 20 freebags vs without skyhook, you probably lost about 80 to 90 freebags.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
