PhillyKev 0 #76 December 24, 2003 QuoteQuoteIf any wives out there are feeling neglected, I'm happy to help. As long as your husband is smaller than me and doesn't own an firearms. ...count on Kev to chime in with a comment to prove the dog that he is... Kiddin', I know it was a joke...it was a joke, right, Kev?! Of course it's a joke. I don't care how big he is, as long as I can outrun him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RippedCord 0 #77 December 30, 2003 QuoteSometimes flirting means. Get away. Someting it means stay. I just love communication clarity. Can ya hear me now? AMDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #78 December 30, 2003 QuoteQuoteI could also say, though, that just because we APPEAR to be ok with something does not mean that we are. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And you don't see a problem with that? I was thinking that as well. There is a problem if someone is offended or bothered by the actions of someone, if nothing is said. You may find it easier to walk away, but if nothing is said, that person may continue that behavior and offend others. If you say something, then you may be stopping the action all together and resolving an overall problem. OK, first time reader of this thread (BEER!) and just made it this far. I will continue reading further, but need to add something to Dave's post here. Along these lines of thinking, does no really still mean no if they don't actually say no? I mean, you may appear to be ok with it, when you are really not. Then later, you make a comment that "whatever happened or was said" you didn't want, or didn't appreciate. Well, there's a sexual harrasment lawsuit, or rape, or whatever. I DO see a problem with this. No means no, period, but if you don't actually SAY it.... We're MEN, not PSYCHICS!It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #79 December 30, 2003 QuoteWe're MEN, not PSYCHICS! I knew you were going to say that. If have happen to get any of the rules nailed down, post them so that they can be altered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #80 December 30, 2003 QuoteMen started it and women don't seem to have the ability to stop it Whoa there. Uh uh. I have had many a lewd comment made at me, by both men and women. It's funny from the men, and flattering by most of the women. There is one (female) at a DZ I frequented that is constantly making lewd comments to men. Her angle? She only makes them to the married guys, and then only in private. I didn't believe it, until it happened to me. She gets away with it 100% though, as the few that say something are laughed at. Women DO have the ability to stop it, as do the men. If it means being a bitch, or in my case a bastard, so be it. Speak up! as I said, we're MEN, not PSYCHICS!It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #81 December 30, 2003 QuoteQuoteWe're MEN, not PSYCHICS! I knew you were going to say that. Yea, but are you really a man? It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #82 December 30, 2003 organise naked jumps...---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #83 December 30, 2003 QuoteQuoteQuoteWe're MEN, not PSYCHICS! I knew you were going to say that. Yea, but are you really a man? That's a woman baby! Bwaaahaaa... you've been talking to my ex again, haven't you? j/k, I know that my ex uses me as a standard to measure all men against. She frequently tells her current husband, "You loser, you can't even do that right. My ex-husband wasn't much, but at least he could do that." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowwhite 0 #84 December 30, 2003 A lot of good thoughts going on in this thread, but I do want to interject a thought here. I have seen women wear very suggestive clothes, very small tops, no bras, low slung pants with poorly concealed tatoos. Women who dress like 2 bit hookers, drape themselves all over men, dance tight suggestive dances with other women and then act "offended" if a man makes a suggestive remark. Such as "nice nipples" My husband made this remark to a girl whos nipples were actually completely through the loosely woven material of her top, and she acted very surprised and upset that he would say such a crass thing. His response to her was, "if you're showing 'em, I figured it was for a reason!" I defend him, and any other man when this is the case. We have to learn to package ourselves and present ourselves in the manner to which we aspire being treated.skydiveTaylorville.org freefallbeth@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #85 December 30, 2003 You've got it all wrong. More women need to start dressing that way. If they did, it wouldn't be a big deal and then men wouldn't comment about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #86 December 30, 2003 I'm sorry, but if its hot outside and I'm wearing board shorts and a tank top, that doesn't give anyone the right to say anything rude, whether I'm wearing a bra or not. I think the peek-a-boo nipples is going too far, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmanpilot 0 #87 December 30, 2003 QuoteWe have to learn to package ourselves and present ourselves in the manner to which we aspire being treated. You know, it does not bother me if a woman dresses provocatively, in fact I kinda like it. Irregardless, I'm going to treat her with a modicum of decency. If a woman is wearing an unlined shirt, sans bra, I'm not going to say anything to her about her nipples.(unless I'm in serious mackn' mode) I may get busted for looking, but that is to be expected. Some women like to wear big, oversised clothes, and some women like to wear tight revealing stuff(god bless em), either way, they should be treated the same way at the dz._________________________________________ -There's always free cheese in a mouse trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #88 December 30, 2003 I can see both sides to this. First, it is a sport. You can spot the tandems by the way they are dressed. Hair done, makeup, cute socks. The regular jumpers are wearing clothes that are useful in the sport. The ones that dress in their bait clothes should expect some comments. The best barometer is the way that other women talk about them. The other side? Women who are not dressed for attention and still get it. Some guys are hounds. "No sale is ever made without asking". They ask everyone, sometimes pretty directly. I don't know how many women that this is going to drive women away. I think most women are a little tougher than this. The ones that aren't, usually complain to one who handles it. I think that rude remarks are just that, people being jerks. Usually, things seem to get worked out, but I am not on that side of the coin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
