cloudseeker2001 0 #26 December 18, 2003 I have never met a Boxer I was afraid of What a fine Boxer that is in the avtar! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #27 December 18, 2003 Third, I fired two warning shots at the dog (it was a pit bull) hoping to scare it away. It kept trying to get on top the dumpster. The third shot was the head shot. Warning shot? Not from me and no way I would have waited 20 minutes "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #28 December 18, 2003 QuoteWarning shot? Not from me and no way I would have waited 20 minutes Humans, yes. Animals, no. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #29 December 18, 2003 It is a good thing that you stopped it there. What if it left you and attacked an elderly person or child? That was a good decision. I also love dogs. I just like people more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragontail 0 #30 December 18, 2003 One other thing about defending against a violent dog.... what if it has rabies? One bite is all it takes. I do love animals but if I'm attacked then it's game on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #31 December 18, 2003 QuoteAnd yes, I carry a sidearm on me all the time...jogging, doing errands, grocery shopping, church, mowing the lawn, airports...everywhere. Freefall? -Kramer The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #32 December 18, 2003 QuoteFreefall? Yes. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #33 December 18, 2003 Hehe...sweet. I wanna see this piece when I'm at ZHills. -Kramer The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #34 December 18, 2003 I just can't imagine living in a country where you need to carry a gun to go jogging. This is not meant to be a troll - just find it incredible. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #35 December 18, 2003 QuoteI just can't imagine living in a country where you need to carry a gun to go jogging. For the record, I doubt he needs to carry a gun...some people just feel more secure with them, plus it's probably job related. (Watch the movie "Bowling For Columbine", Chris...) -Kramer The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #36 December 18, 2003 Not everyone carries a gun to go jogging. For many law enforcement agencies, carrying a gunat all times is mandatory. Check his profile. I think it is job related. For those overseas - SWAT - Special Weapons and Tactics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #37 December 18, 2003 Seen Bowling for Columbine. Did not contribute to the BfC thread though. It is probably because I have had such little contact with hand guns that I find it surprising. For me I would end up wondering about everyone - "have they got a gun?, what about them?" etc. Oh well - not dissing it at all, especially if it is work related. Peace CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkvapor 0 #38 December 18, 2003 QuoteFor me I would end up wondering about everyone - "have they got a gun?, what about them?" etc. Hope this doesn't start another gun debate thread.. but that's the the whole point of having an armed society. If some low-life decides to rob or attack another person, they better think twice, because that could be their last thing they do in their life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #39 December 18, 2003 I do not carry weapons for anything work related. It is just habit, nit to mention safety. Bad situations do not occur when you are prepared. They occur when your pants are down. No such thing as being too safe. No matter how much you plan and prep for safety, Mr. Murphy is always lurking nearby to make your life miserable. And no, I am not a cop nor a SWAT member. I am a consultant for SWAT units around the state. I teach them new tactics and methods, along with making suggestions to the department in regards to weapons, armor and equipment. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dagny 0 #40 December 18, 2003 QuoteFreefall? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes. I'll have to remember that if I'm ever looking over your gear before we exit! Three rings..look good. Chest strap routed correctly...check. Weapon locked and loaded...check. I'm guessing you feel better carrying it always and wouldn't leave it on the ground or locked in your car? Otherwise, it's in case you encounter any rabid dogs on an out landing? Take me, I am the drug; take me, I am hallucinogenic. -Salvador Dali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #41 December 18, 2003 Why didn't he just kick it in the face a few times? It was only a dog. A few hefty kicks to the face and it would have gone. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #42 December 18, 2003 QuoteI'd like to see you win 'unarmed' against a police dog.. Rules for engaging a single dog, unarmed. 1. Don't run. 2. Aproach the dog. It'll back off. We're supposed to run. 3. If the dog attacks (Which it will do if cornered, ordered or trained)....Engage. Over ride your instincts. Do what you dont want to do. Push your hand INTO the dogs mouth. DEEP. Go for the lungs, at least to mid forearm. You can kill quite simply in this way, and very fast. It also keeps the dog quite quiet. When you're there (The dog will be in serious gag reflex here and VERY uncomfortable) make a fist. That really fucks them. Now, reach for the back leg. Only one. Lift the leg off the ground. Dogs don't like being off the ground, especially not the back legs. Start to turn, allowing centrifugal force to build. Allow the gag reflex to help your arm out of the dog's mouth. You may pick up some damage here, but it won't be structural. The dogs leg may dislocate soon after this point. While spinning, approach something hard. A corner, pole etc. Thwack, thwack, thwack until the dog goes floppy or starts to leak chunks. If there is nothing hard around, switch legs and dislocate the other one. Problem solved. Trust me. This works. As with any fight, do what you need to survive, even if it seems "ugly" at the time. Single dogs are time wasters. They are not killers. Their purpose is to entertain you while the handler closes in. This defence would be impossible with a handler in attendance, at they could neutralise you at almost any point in this endevour. Remember, the dog is someone elses weapon, directed at you. Disasociate morality and guilt. The dog is an extention of the owner. 4. Go get a Rabies shot. Packs are another story all together, but there are methods which work better than others. Pain is information. Fear is the mind killer. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites