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Kat69

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Who cares what or who you like. As long as you don't hurt andyone and they are of age it's your business. If your friends can't deal with it, then they are not your friends.

Here's a few hugs. Don't let a few closed minded people ruin your sex life.


The only time you should look down on someone is when you are offering them your hand.

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How about, whiny little babies go home! A skydiver is a skydiver! Check out my profile! Do I have enough jumps to post among the Gods and Goddesses of the sky? How many would you like someone to have?



RIGHT FREAKING ON.... tell em Kelly

I remember there was a woman in the UK who was called RIPPLE on the boards who had managed to make a couple tandem jumps. She was very excited and was enthusiastic about being on the site. Then some BUTTSTAINS who did not think she was a skydiver ran her off and really hurt her.
Ripple is as much a skydiver as ANYONE else who has ever jumped from a plane..... Just because it does not meet some Macho assholes self delusion that he is SUPER COOL because he is a skydiver.....ooooohhhhhhh ahhhhhhhh let me fall down and worship you MR SKYGOD.

NOW for the REST OF THE STORY.... I guess she can't possibly be a skydoiver because dear friends.. Ripple is her name as in shortened from cripple.. her legs do not work... how much MORE guts did it take to make a couple of tandem jumps when a body is not even working. So those idiots basically ran her off. Many people who do a tandem will NEVER get involved with the sport.... BUT if we as the skydiving community are friendly and welcoming to them... MAYBE JUST MAYBE they will go on and be out there helping to support our meager numbers.... getting training....and joining us in the sky.

By the way sports fans..... Kat jumped at our DZ over the weekend with a good friend as her TM. She is a Newbie.....obviously very excited about jumping.. Welcome to the sky little Skysister

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Bla bla bla bla bla. Tandems come and go. One in one hundred will ever make a second jump, and the rest hang out on dz.com. I'm not macho, or a skygod, but just like many of you I don't really do too well spending time hanging with wuffos (i just get bored hearing about everyday life). Do you invite every single person who does a tandem at your DZ back to your place every weekend?

On the other hand, I don't find myself throwing around the ever popular "I'm so superior to you becasue I'm so much more open to new people (who will be gone in 5 minutes)". Sorry, I do like to hang out with my skydiving friends. No, 1 tandem does not a skydiver make, just like sitting on the back seat of motorcycle for a ride doesn't make you a rider (best metaphor I could come up with). In most social circles you don't blast your way into the middle and start spewing all that you have to say in the first 5 minutes. I guess while on-line people can get away with that which would get them the door in the real world.

Incidentally, I think that if someone has made enough comittment to get a license, thats about the time I think "skydiver" becomes an accurate description. If you go to France for a week, are you French?

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As far as the sexuallity question I have never thought differently of anyone because of their sexual orientation.

In response to Treejumps - I agree that tandems come and go. So do many of those who have made only a handful of jumps. But, I still think it's important to note that they in some way and at some time had an interest and desire to make those jumps.

Incidentally, I think that if someone has made enough comittment to get a license, thats about the time I think "skydiver" becomes an accurate description.***

I respect your opinion on this point. But, some of us would like to be able to have the comittment to get a license. Sometimes life just gets in the. I think if someone wants to call themselves a skydiver after a few jumps then so be it. Myself - I don't consider myself to be one just because I made a few jumps.



"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away..."

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Jeanne, you make a few good points.

I don't care how many jumps a person has...if they've come to the sky, seen our playground, and breathed that air, then yes, to me they are part of the family and no longer a whuffo. Keep in mind I say this with all of 80 jumps.

There are others, however, who say that anyone with less than 10 years in the sport is a tourist. I can't speak to that, because I don't have ten years in the sport, but I also think they have a perspective on things that I don't.

I also don't give a flying rat's ass who sleeps with whom, what hole does what, and where it happens. I DO object, frankly, to someone coming on here and, imho, spamming the forums with posts about getting flack for posting about their sexuality. No less than 46 posts, from midnight until 2:30ish today, most of them about sex or sexuality or sexual partners. I think I counted 4 or 5 which didn't have anything to do with sex....in her first post she says "If it wasn't for the fact that I love sex so much[.][sic] This would be the best thing that happened in my life". Now, while I agree that's a mighty fine attitude to have as a skydiver, it still is bothersome because of the sheer numbers in such a short amount of time.

Besides....if I were to post I've gotten flack, there would be lots of folks who would want to assist me in handling it. As a matter of fact, I have had that happen, and, I didn't make 46 posts about it, simply dealt with it. I did post, but once or twice, and then let it blow over. And it was about jumping, not sex.

If she really has gotten flack about it, then I really am sorry. But still, I really can't see the need to spend hours and hours perseverating on something she claims she doesn't want attention for, and have that be the only thing she's posted about (aside from a brief comment about her skydive in the Intro forum, and the exception of the 4-5 I mentioned above). But maybe that's 38 talking to 18's behavior.

There is not one question, not one thought, not one comment about skydiving, without sex in it...and that is, personally, what I find "trollish" when added to the length of time posting and number of posts. If she were talking about "straight sex", I'd still have difficulty with it - it isn't the sexuality, it's the perseverence of the topic which is bothersome.

That is my opinion. And no, I shall not be opening this thread again. Flame if you will, but don't bother doing it publicly, 'cause I won't see it.

Ciels-
Michele


~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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Bla bla bla bla bla.



Thank you for making my point so ineloquently.

Most DZ are not supported by up jumpers. It is students and tandems that make most DZ viable operations. In this case I guess those of us who are openminded and open to new people really bug you super cool skydiver guys who ride motorcyles and speak french. The Students are the next group of jumpers becomeing in your mind....skydivers. There are always new people coming into the sport.. so why try to drive them away....by bad attitudes. People like you who limit the thrill of life to your small little clique most of who I doubt will be jumping a few years from now because they will be seeking out the next thrill in life because you have become bored with life in general.

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