skycat 0 #1 November 4, 2003 Ok, so who would be up for taking a day off during the week to try out some rockclimbing? There are a bunch of us on here who already climb, and if you have never done it but want to try, I know something can be worked out gear wise. I'm sure I can find someplace that will rent stuff also if needed. We don't have gear for Trad climbing, but we have everything that would be needed for sport climbing, so for those of you flying you wouldn't need to bring more than your harness and chalkbag. Anyway, we are probably going to take a day off from jumping, to go climb and would love others to come with.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alanab 0 #2 November 4, 2003 sounds tempting! i will bring my harness and chalk bag along:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #3 November 4, 2003 Oh, I'd love to try climbing outside, we don't get much of a chance to do that here in Florida! I've been to an indoor climbing place a few times and even have a chalk bag, but I would definitely be a newbie at it in the great outdoors. I'd hate to slow all the experienced people down though.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyPsycho 0 #4 November 4, 2003 Quotesounds tempting! i will bring my harness and chalk bag along:) well dont you all just suck since i will not be there for a climbing trip.....dammit. _______________________________ HK MP5SD.........silence is golden Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #5 November 4, 2003 QuoteI'd hate to slow all the experienced people down though. Don't ever think that, climbing outside is for having fun and being with friends. Now when I climb in the gym it's a different story, I'm there for getting a workout, and pushing my limits. SkyPsycho, you don't have to come with, I'm just offering for others to join us when we take a day off from jumping to do one of our other hobbies.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #6 November 4, 2003 QuoteDon't ever think that, climbing outside is for having fun and being with friends. Oh thank-you for saying that, Kelli, definitely sign me up then! Climbing outdoors is on my list of things to do before I die, so you posting this is making my day, I'm so psyched! She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 November 4, 2003 If I make it to the boogie I'll toss my harness in my gear bag. Its been 5 years since I was on belay but I can probally pick it up fast again.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #8 November 4, 2003 hehe....as Derek always says "What can possibly go wrong" I hope you come to Eloy, I miss hanging out with you around the bonfire, especially when we can tag team some drunk ass guy who thinks loose rubber bands cause bagdump. Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 November 4, 2003 EEEEKKK I bet you and Phree have gone to those little cliffs over along I think it was the Miami River...last time I was there I got a ticket for wading in the freakin water.. disturbing the wildlife or some such. We have a few little rock faces out here.. and plenty of rock hoppers to leap off of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #10 November 4, 2003 Quoteloose rubber bands cause bagdump BWAHAHAHAHA!!! How about those that say tube stoes are the way to go 'cause they don't break? I looooove getting them going. It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #11 November 4, 2003 QuoteOk, so who would be up for taking a day off during the week to try out some rockclimbing? I'm in!!! I was rock climbing crazy during the summer of 2000. Rock climbing rocks and taking a day off of jumping during the boogie will help my bank account. QuoteWe don't have gear for Trad climbing, but we have everything that would be needed for sport climbing, so for those of you flying you wouldn't need to bring more than your harness and chalkbag I've got a full rack and a rope. Plus people will want to bring their climbing shoes and a belaying device if they have them as well as their harness and chalk bag (or of course the harness, shoes and belay device can all be rented). So what difficulties were you guys talking about and do you know the good climbing areas near Eloy? And unless the experience levels are pretty good, I'd recommend top roping some pitch(es) instead of sport or trad climbing (even though I like the good trad climbs, but I'm not ultra experienced and/or talented myself and haven't climbed in 3 years). Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #12 November 4, 2003 That was fun at Perris Next time can we find someone that thinks that riser length has no effect on a canopy? Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmonst 0 #13 November 4, 2003 sounds great. count me in! i've got harness, chalkbag and even shoes!! i'm a bit rusty, and recovering still obviousy, but that would be fun! peace lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #14 November 4, 2003 Lew You've got the perfect climbers body (tall, slim and athletic). If you weren't a bad ass skydiver and/or volleyball player, I'm sure you could easily be a bad ass climber. BTW ... I've got to run and catch what's left of the Broncos game (I over stayed my half time DZ.COM time). Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #15 November 4, 2003 QuoteLew You've got the perfect climbers body (tall, slim and athletic). If you weren't a bad ass skydiver and/or volleyball player, I'm sure you could easily be a bad ass climber. BTW ... I've got to run and catch what's left of the Broncos game (I over stayed my half time DZ.COM time). We're losing the game, Canuck! Damn donkeys! Ugh! _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prepheckt 0 #16 November 4, 2003 I can borrow stuff from the Academy club...shoes, quickdraws, harnesses, ropes...etc. I am definately going to bring the trad rack too, I also borrowed a "Climbing Arizona" book, most of the stuff that I found quickly skimming is near Phoenix/Tuscon."Dancing Argentine Tango is like doing calculus with your feet." -9 toes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #17 November 4, 2003 Yep I was planning on climbs that could be toproped, but someone has to lead it and set the anchor and since I don't have pros I have to find places with bolts. I'm thinking Queen's Creek Canyon in Superior ~30 min or so north of Eloy. I'm planning and stopping at REI in phoenix to get a book on the routes. I'm thinking easier routes since this will be the 1st time for some people, which is why I choose that canyon, it seems to have a lot of stuff. I looked at the calendar and the 29th might be a good day to do it, since it's a couple of days into the boogie and it's on a Monday, so after jumping hard all weekend it might be a nice day to take off and do something else.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prepheckt 0 #18 November 4, 2003 Hey Kelli, I have the Falcon "Rock Climbing Arizona" save your money routes...let me check it out and I'll get back to you. I can lead 5.9-10, if you need me to. Addition, there are some good 5.7-9 routes, but it's mostly 10 and 11's with some 12 and 13's, some good trad routes though. Lots of bouldering for everyone too."Dancing Argentine Tango is like doing calculus with your feet." -9 toes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #19 November 4, 2003 5.8 (maybe 5.9) is my limit. Some of that other stuff you talk of is way beyond my abilities. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RippedCord 0 #20 November 4, 2003 WTF is a 5.8-10?!? Are we talking BSR's or is this some type of rock climbing richter scale like classes for a river's rapids? Trad climbing? Belaying Bag? Full Rack? Anyone? AMDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 November 4, 2003 You got it... higher the second number harder the climb... the more technical it is.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RippedCord 0 #22 November 4, 2003 QuoteYou got it... higher the second number harder the climb... the more technical it is.. Great...what's the first number? AMDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #23 November 4, 2003 Here check out this site... http://www.abc-of-rockclimbing.com/whatis/rockclimbinggrades.asp Or better still this one http://www.climber.org/Resource/decimal.html Enjoy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #24 November 4, 2003 that would be great. Im no pro but Ill keep up with who I can and I'll cutaway when the group gets too experienced for meMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prepheckt 0 #25 November 4, 2003 QuoteWTF is a 5.8-10?!? Are we talking BSR's or is this some type of rock climbing richter scale like classes for a river's rapids? Yes, in the US it's called the Yosemite Decimal System. it has 5 classes. (The first number indicates steepness) It actually has 6, but I don't want to have to explain it, and it's not really relevant for beginners anyway. 1-Trail Hiking 2- Hiking over rough ground, whihc may include the use of hands for stability 3 Scarmbling that requires the use of hands and careful foot placement 4-Scrambling over steep and exposed terrain where climbing difficulty is relaivetly easy but a long fall would result in injury because of exposure. 5- Climbing on steep and exposed terrain where a fall would defiantely result in injury or death. Only the hands and feet are used for upward progess, no direct or artificial aid is employed The second number indicates the difficultly rating. This rating comes from the route's hardest move, not the whole climb in general. so a route may be easier or harder then actually rated. It ranges from 0 to 15 (so far). Also because ratings are not absolute, you can add a +/- to show that the rating may be slightly easier/harder then the "average" and becaue the rating may be unclear or still being agreed on.. Also for ratings 10 and above, you can add a/b/c to indicate different classes of difficulty. Most first time climbers can climb a 5.5-5.6 easily because the hand/footholds are large and easy to grab, as you go up in difficulty, the holds get smaller or more difficult moves such as foot/hand jams (just like what it sounds like) are required, or the the holds are very small and require skill and good technique to complete the route. QuoteTrad climbing? Trad= Traditional, one of disciplines of rock climbing, there is a debate between people who do trad versus sport (like RW vs FF in skydiving). Trad is basically not using pre-positioned bolts to climb a wall. They use small devices called cams, among other things to climb a wall (If you've seen Vertical limit, you've seen cams in the movie) They're small spring loaded hand held devices that you compress and put in holes or cracks in the rock to attach your rope to, so you have some protection if you fall. Sport climbing uses pre postioned bolts (small o-shaped rings) pre-drilled into the rock, you use other equipment to climb this way, mainly quickdraws, which is two caribeiners which are connected by a piece of webbing. One of the "beiners" is connected to the bolt, then you attach your rope and it can hold you if you fall. You repeat until you reach the top of the route. QuoteBelaying In general, all sport climbing (with ropes) is done in pairs. One guy climbs while the the other is the belayer. He is your rope anchor. While one climbs, the other feeds the rope and controls the amount of slack in the rope at any time. If you fall, he can catch you because he is attached to the other end of the rope, and also lowers you as well when you are finished. Very important person...you have to be able to trust that belayer, your life is literally in his hands. I don't mean to sound dramatic, but it is a big responsibility. QuoteFull Rack? You carry all your equipment on a sling around your shoulders or on your harness. We call that a rack. Example. I have a full rack of trad gear. Translation: I have a full complement of traditional gear (cams, nuts, etc) with me."Dancing Argentine Tango is like doing calculus with your feet." -9 toes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
