How windy is too windy?

[hawkflight 0]

How windy is too windy for a STUDENT to jump?
Thanks Tom

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[SkydiverRick 0]

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How windy is too windy for a STUDENT to jump?
Thanks Tom

!4 mph. You should become familiar with the SIM. It is waiverable to 18mph

never pull low......unless you are

[Nightingale 0]

14 mph

[mcneill79 0]

Normally it's 14 mph. At Cross Keys, where I'm learning, they have a special permit so it 16 mph... at least thats what my JM told me.

[freebird 0]

If your worried about the wind on a jump day then its too windy. Thats my take on it.

[bendywendy 0]

Good advice.

The standard rule is 14 mph. As noted earlier in these posts there are some exceptions to the rule. At Sebastian we are waivered to 17 mph.

That doesn't mean that we automatically jump in those winds just because we have the waiver. Huge difference between a nice steady wind or something that is gusting. It's ok for some students to jump in pretty strong winds if it is nice and steady. However, if it is gusting from nothing up to 17 mph then that is another story and even a fair amount of experienced jumpers should be sitting on the ground. Gusts can create some very unpredictable landing situations.

[coconutmonkey 0]

If you see the instructors all crackin beers ar 1000 in the morning and talking about watching the fools try to land, it might be a bit windy.....

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[Zeemax 0]

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[bch7773 0]

officially its 14 mph.

unofficially, its whatever the instructor decides. I have seen at some dzs, if there is a heavy student under a smaller student canopy... (like a 230), the instructor lets them jump in 20+ mph winds with a stern lecture over what to do if they start getting pushed back under canopy.

its one of those things that its probably safe

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[Kris 0]

Not at my DZ and not with one of my students. Only an S&TA can waiver the wind limit. Even then, I think they are only allowed to go so far.

BSR's specify that the winds must be no greater than 14mph for a ram-air parachute without a waiver filed for the DZ. And no greater than 10mph if the rig has a round reserve.

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[SkydiverRick 0]

its one of those things that its probably safe

[DeNReN 0]

Again...I say patiance....the skydivers friend/nemises

[BlackholeSon 0]

As it was stated before, familiarize yourself with the SIM. Download it here: http://www.uspa.org/publications/manuals.htm

Max ground winds for students is 14mph. 10mph for round reserves. For licensed skydivers it's unlimited.
However, when the hanger starts making creaking sounds I'd hold off.

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[champu 1]

the SIM says 14mph (somewhat waiverable), but special care should be taken with students if the landing area is surrounded by objects that can create unpredictable turbulance.

if the wind is changing a lot, and the landing area has rotors all over the place, it's not really safe for anyone, let alone students.

[Conundrum 1]

15mph + at perris

[amir1967 0]

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How windy is too windy for a STUDENT to jump?
Thanks Tom

Well when I was a student with 50 jump or so (still learning only have more jump now) an Instructor ask me if I´m going to jump later on ,I´ve asked him if he was going to jump and his reply was No it´s too windy .So I said `` if it´s too windy for you why do you think that I want to jump.

`its better being on the ground wishing you where in the air than being in the air wishing you where on the ground` I think I read it some where
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[Lee03 0]

Normally 14 mph, but as several have said, waverable. When I was a student.. I once jumped in 16 mph.. didn't give me much problem.

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[ltdiver 3]

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15mph + at perris

Perris still holds to the 14mph BSR for unlicensed jumpers.

ltdiver

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[freeflir29 0]

14 MPH for students.....I personally have felt perfectly safe jumping in 30MPH + but have also sat on the ground in 20MPH. The 30 MPH was VERY smooth steady wind. I've seen 10-15MPH that was unpredictable and choppy. Educated decisions are required.

[ltdiver 3]

ok. The BSR might say 14mph limit for students, but Perris carries that to include all unlicensed jumpers as well.

ltdiver

Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

[SkydiverRick 0]

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ok. The BSR might say 14mph limit for students, but Perris carries that to include all unlicensed jumpers as well.

ltdiver

They are students until they have a license.

never pull low......unless you are

[ltdiver 3]

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ok. The BSR might say 14mph limit for students, but Perris carries that to include all unlicensed jumpers as well.

ltdiver

They are students until they have a license.

-Some- like to 'classify' those still under an AFF program as students and those graduated to JM themselves...but still unlicensed...as not. I was just clarifying for those who might think differently.

I agree with you, however, that they are technically a 'student' until they hold a valid 'A' (for USPA) or equivalent in their country.

ltdiver

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[SkydiverRick 0]

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ok. The BSR might say 14mph limit for students, but Perris carries that to include all unlicensed jumpers as well.

ltdiver

They are students until they have a license.

-Some- like to 'classify' those still under an AFF program as students and those graduated to JM themselves...but still unlicensed...as not. I was just clarifying for those who might think differently.

I agree with you, however, that they are technically a 'student' until they hold a valid 'A' (for USPA) or equivalent in their country.

ltdiver

Call them what you want. My point is that the wind limits apply until they have a license.

never pull low......unless you are

[ltdiver 3]

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My point is that the wind limits apply until they have a license.

Exactly my point as well. Glad we agree.

ltdiver

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[McDuck 0]

Even after you are licensed, go by two indicators: more experienced and sane skydivers, and your gut. I only ignored both ONCE, and after an entire canopy ride filled with expletives and heart-swallowing, coupled with a landing that was less than ideal, I follow the aforementioned indicators.

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