billvon 3,030 #51 November 29, 2003 >why does a bird suit increase the chances of a spinner? When you deploy on a normal jump the deploying parachute rotates you 90 degrees; on a birdman it rotates you closer to 180 degrees. The additional rotation tends to emphasize bad body position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #52 November 29, 2003 frap hat for me (solo), special olympics helment (protec) if RW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpjumps 0 #53 November 29, 2003 QuoteIf I am jumping with more than just me, then I will. If I'm doing a hop&pop (Of which I do alot of) I don't usually. If I'm going to do Freefall for more than say 20 seconds or so, then yes, I'll wear it. Obviously, as well, when I'm doing my amature video attempts. So, to those of you who don't wear one on hop n pops, why not? Isn't it, in large part, to keep your cute little noggin' safe on impact? You might hit someone in freefall, got that (and it would be a VERY bad thing to have your head hit in freefall) but you are promised an impact on landing. Hopefully your head never hits the ground, but aren't your chances of hitting the ground just as good as hitting someone in freefall? Not trying to be a smart ass or anything... I am still only a 42 jump wonder and still learning... kpYour character will ultimately determine your destiny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #54 November 29, 2003 Quote>why does a bird suit increase the chances of a spinner? When you deploy on a normal jump the deploying parachute rotates you 90 degrees; on a birdman it rotates you closer to 180 degrees. The additional rotation tends to emphasize bad body position. Thanks for adding that Bill, I finally went to bed last night. Additionally, throwing non-uniformly will start the spin too. Allowing one wing to catch more air than the other while throwing can start you spinning before the canopy even leaves the bag. Did it once, and I'm much more carefull now.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chopchop 0 #55 November 29, 2003 Usually I wear a helmet.. (probably 99% of the time) Every once in a while, though, I slip my ProTrack in my pocket, grab my goggles and go hatless. It is so nice to feel the air on your head. But I only do it when completely comfortable with the people I am jumping with and the plan. For instance.. if I'm last diver to a belly formation, I feel pretty safe.. if I'm jumping with 1 or 2 other freefliers that I have jumped with before often and I know and trust them or if I am solo. It does add another element of risk but when the risk is minimized, it is soooo worth the feeling! chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #56 November 29, 2003 Many years ago I tried jumping without a helmet and it was TOO F-ING LOUD. Oh and all those loving students who have jammed my head into the door frame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #57 November 29, 2003 I have never jumped without a helmet although I would like to try it once just to experience how the wind feels all over.. One of my dearest friends might not be here today if it wasn't for her helmet. She is a very conservative canopy pilot and was coming in for a normal straight in landing when she hit a dust devil and smacked face first into the ground. It wasn't a full face and I don't know if it would have made a difference if it was but I do know that it would have crushed her entire head instead of just her face if she hadn't been wearing it. I am so thankful that she's alive. I still may jump without mine eventually but what happened to her makes me think a little more about it. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatever 0 #58 November 29, 2003 Quote I contradict myself in that I don't wear a helmet on my motorcycle, and I always wear a seatbelt in the car. All a matter of personal preference and freedom of choice. I wouldn't say that is a matter of personal preference and freedom of choice, I would say that is a matter of perceived risk versus actual risk and severity of injury versus probability of injury. but, that's just my opinion.... soon to be gone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites