goose491 0 #26 November 25, 2003 QuoteThis gives a real world scenario that pretty much settles this thread: Free Falling Bullets That's the one! Bwahaahaa , I didn't realise that was John! lol My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #27 November 25, 2003 QuoteQuoteYou know, some things just bring a smile to my face! That story did it! Except for the part about children being present. I see where you're going with that. But that's actually what had me smiling. Whatever children were present had large potential as future Klan members... hopefully, though traumatising, a spectacle such as this might be enough to keep them from perpetuating their parents hate. It may work, I'm no longer a Baptist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #28 November 25, 2003 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou know, some things just bring a smile to my face! That story did it! Except for the part about children being present. I see where you're going with that. But that's actually what had me smiling. Whatever children were present had large potential as future Klan members... hopefully, though traumatising, a spectacle such as this might be enough to keep them from perpetuating their parents hate. It may work, I'm no longer a Baptist. Why? Did your Baptist folks kill someone before your virigin childhood eyes in an act of pure redneck stupidity? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #29 November 25, 2003 Has everyone forgotten the importance of being educated (not even formally educated, just not being plain stupid) and physics? As skydivers, I guess we assume everyone knows that what goes up must come down. Humanity dissapoints me more and more every day. Eventually, they will kill themselves off, maybe by just inducting eachother (hopefully). The world would be better off not having stupid peices of sh*$ like that around. Hate kills but stupid people do too!Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #30 November 25, 2003 QuoteWhy? Did your Baptist folks kill someone before your virigin childhood eyes in an act of pure redneck stupidity? Pretty close. I kept looking at the crucifix and thinking, "I'll bet there's an easier way to prove a point." Plus, about half way through the sermon, that darned preacher would hammer the Bible onto the pulpit and wake me up. I had bad sleep patterns for years. Is there a lawsuit there somewhere? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #31 November 25, 2003 Quote Is there a lawsuit there somewhere? "That's totally inappropriate. It's lewd, vesivius, salacious, outrageous!" This guy says you've got an airtight case. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpjumps 0 #32 November 25, 2003 Hadn't thought about that~ Good point! I saw a bunch of kids on tv one time, they all had parents in the Klan. Having taught Kind- fourth grade, I kinda know kids, and when they are young they are so accepting. They'll ask a question about a diffence and then move on. But how these kids could have been filled with so much hate was beyond me. Maybe such a stupid act will be enough for them to not follw in Mom and dad's footsteps.Your character will ultimately determine your destiny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #33 November 25, 2003 LMAO! Amen! Justice is served. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #34 November 25, 2003 I'm no child psychologist, but it's been my experiance that kids are pretty smart. When something scares them, they tend to NOT like it ALOT! Hopefully this scared the begeezus out of them and will foster another way of thinking, separate from the evil, and vile teachings of those that had them out there in the first place.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #35 November 25, 2003 Hopefully it will at least scare them into not letting people put a noose around their neck tied to a tree and shoot them with paint balls, no matter what the reason. Freakin' brilliant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #36 November 25, 2003 QuoteHopefully it will at least scare them into not letting people put a noose around their neck tied to a tree and shoot them with paint balls, no matter what the reason. Freakin' brilliant. Hmmm, when I paintball, that's the official punishment for hitting one of the refs... Well, minus the noose... unless they run that is My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #37 November 25, 2003 Hey hey! Jackie is my slightly more successful older brother! Jerry Childs. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #38 November 25, 2003 Quote7,500 bail?? That's it????? That in Johnson City, TN is a bi-annual income. And remember that the fellers Daddy was his Uncle as welljraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #39 November 25, 2003 In the local news last night, it was reported that this was an "I picked up the wrong gun" incident. Story here was that the shooter, being a mite tipsy, thought he was shooting the guy with a paint ball, missed a tad high, and wound up shooting dude in the head. Could be speculation on the part of the local news and better fact-checking by cnn, or it could be that the klan's "fact management" division has spun the story some to protect the stupid. Still a pretty odd incident, either way it went down. Speaking of, I wonder the Klan has a "forums" section on their website where members are currently discussing what could be done to avoid incidents like this in the future. Example: Poster #1: This all goes back to the firing of the shot into the air. We gotta shoot blanks when we do this stuff. Poster #2: I have been to hundreds of initiations, and this never happened before. Clearly the root cause of this incident was that the guy was directly in the path of a bullet. As I have said a hundred times - DO NOT STAND IN THE PATH OF A BULLET! Geez, when are you idiots going to catch on? Poster 3: A flat trajectory shot into an area known to be unoccupied might have prevented this incident. Oh well. Maybe not. Brent ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #40 November 25, 2003 Quote Speaking of, I wonder the Klan has a "forums" section on their website where members are currently discussing what could be done to avoid incidents like this in the future. Example: Poster #1: This all goes back to the firing of the shot into the air. We gotta shoot blanks when we do this stuff. Poster #2: I have been to hundreds of initiations, and this never happened before. Clearly the root cause of this incident was that the guy was directly in the path of a bullet. As I have said a hundred times - DO NOT STAND IN THE PATH OF A BULLET! Geez, when are you idiots going to catch on? Poster 3: A flat trajectory shot into an area known to be unoccupied might have prevented this incident. BWAHAAHAAA! Poster 4: QuotePoster #1: This all goes back to the firing of the shot into the air. We gotta shoot blanks when we do this stuff. No no no dude, We gotta shoot blacks when we do this stuff. lol My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #41 November 25, 2003 Don't these people have anything better to do with their spare time? Preaching to the choir doesn't get you very far in life. A far more exciting form of initation would involve KKK wannabees spouting racist slogans in a neighborhood dominated by people with dark or yellow or red or jewish-colored skin .... If they can survive running to a white neighborhood, they can wear a white hood! Hah! Hah! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #42 November 25, 2003 QuoteThis gives a real world scenario that pretty much settles this thread: Free Falling Bullets Good referral! I question the ability of the free-falling bullet to go all the way through the skull from top to bottom... I would like to see the doctor's report, if this aspect of the story is actually true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #43 November 25, 2003 QuoteIn the local news last night, it was reported that this was an "I picked up the wrong gun" incident. Story here was that the shooter, being a mite tipsy, thought he was shooting the guy with a paint ball, missed a tad high, and wound up shooting dude in the head. Uh-huh, I thought there was something fishy about that story. My instincts were correct. A freefalling bullet will not go all the way through someone's skull. What say you now, laughing Goose-man? Lesson: Don't believe everything you read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamT 0 #44 November 25, 2003 Yes bmc308 posted that the local news was reporting that the man thought he was shooting a paintball gun and actually shot him with a real gun. So maybe it isn't a case of freefalling bullets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #45 November 25, 2003 >>What say you now, laughing Goose-man? << Given the context, I bet he is still laughing. Anyway, not to rehash that thread, if the shooter was real close to where the bullet fell and shot almost exactly straight up and for some reason that thing came down nose first and still spin stabilized, I might believe it. The chances of the precedent conditions happening as I described, however, (nose first and spin stabilized) seem fairly remote. Apparently makes for good tv, though, if cnn picked it up. Brent ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamT 0 #46 November 25, 2003 Im thinking the gun fired in the air was the story the shooter gave to police. It sounds more inocent then, "I picked up the wrong gun and shot him in the head." The nature of the injury should hold the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekendwonder 0 #47 November 25, 2003 Maybe if they had handed out a few more guns... If ignorance is bliss, these folks are the happiest gang around. Blues, Bob Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #48 November 25, 2003 QuoteA freefalling bullet will not go all the way through someon's skull. What say you now, laughing Goose-man? I was a little sceptical myself, reading that the bullet had penetrated the entire skull of the victim (Hmmm, can we call him 'victim'?. It almost sounds too forgiving) The only difference between your experiment, and actually firing bullets into the air though is the riffling. We know it's all about air friction/resistance... otherwise, the bullet would return to it's point of origin at exactly the same speed it left. Your bullets were spinning madly about any (possibly all) axis (That must have been a whicked-cool visual). You've got to ask yourself if a bullet fired straight into the air, is exposed long enough to air resistance to stop it rotating around it's longitudinal axis (rifling)? If, at the top of the tradjectory, the bullet is still riffling, it will turn around and fall back pointing downards as oppose to spinning all about. This increases the threat of the returning bullet in two ways. 1) you know it's going to strick 'point-first', as the bullet is designed to do. and 2)It will be able to pick up much more speed coming down straight and vertical then it would just 'freefalling' and spinning randomly. If it can dent the hood of your car, it can hurt ya. Anyhooo, back to making fun of the NRA... whoops! I mean KKK Of course I'm only rasing you man. cool? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,049 #49 November 25, 2003 >If, at the top of the tradjectory, the bullet is still riffling, it will turn > around and fall back pointing downards as oppose to spinning all > about. Why would it do that? A spinning bullet is stabilized by the gyroscopic moment of its spin. That means it always tends to point the direction it was originally facing. It's not aerodynamically stable; that means it doesn't care where it's pointing in relationship to the wind. If it were aerodynamically stable, JR's experiment would have resulted in the slugs falling stably, pointy end down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n2skdvn 0 #50 November 25, 2003 found this http://www.logicsouth.com/~lcoble/dir5/xd.txt and this http://van.hep.uiuc.edu/van/qa/section/Making_Stuff_Move/Gravity/20030203100640.htm both some what conflicting but there was a girl 3 or 4 yrs ago in new orleans killed by a falling bullet( my brother was in the ER when she came in DOA)if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
