KKK Initiation

[happythoughts 0]

Along these lines, there was an actor on an adventure series a few years back who killed himself with a blank gun. He was explaining to someone that the gun would not harm him and put it to his head.

The gun had blanks, but it was a .44. The muzzle blast cracked his skull and killed him.

[PhillyKev 0]

That would be Jason Lee filming the Crow 2.

[freeflir29 0]

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That would be Jason Lee filming the Crow 2.

Don't know about that but I know there was another guy on a TV show that did this. Darwin Award?

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Yeah, it was a soap opera I think.

Blanks are still -quite- dangerous.

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[freeflir29 0]

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Blanks are still -quite- dangerous.

Yep...something about rapidly expanding gases and a high speed wax projectile. I once saw a guy that had been shot in the head at VERY close range. He had the "Star" pattern from the gas exiting the rifling in his forehead. Up close even the gas can kill you.

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He arrived on the Fox lot. During the day, he was inevitably to film a scene lying in bed. Why do I think he had his shirt off? Anyway, he was playing around with a .44 Magnum, as you do. At around 5:15 p.m. he put the pistol (according to witnesses, it was loaded with three empty cartridges and two blanks) up to his right temple. As he pulled the trigger he smiled, and supposedly said, "Let's see if I got myself with this one." He was apparently unaware that at close range, a blank can cause great damage. And damage it was. The explosion drove a quarter-sized piece of his skull far into his brain. Turns out that the blank was packed with paper inside, and it went straight into his temple and made a bone chip lodge in his brain. Killed by paper.

Found it. John Erik Hexum in "Cover-up" It was a kind of spy show where the spies were bikini models. They went around and spied on people at the beach or something.

[billvon 3,049]

The second one has a sort of nonsense saying in it:

"In the absence of air resistance, the speed of the bullet out of the gun will be the same as it is coming back down, and so the muzzle velocity of the bullet affects its return speed."

That's akin to saying your terminal velocity depends on how fast the plane was climbing before you got out. Might be true if you got out at 200 feet, but in general terminal velocity dominates.

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Poster #1: This all goes back to the firing of the shot into the air. We gotta shoot blanks when we do this stuff.

Poster #2: I have been to hundreds of initiations, and this never happened before. Clearly the root cause of this incident was that the guy was directly in the path of a bullet. As I have said a hundred times - DO NOT STAND IN THE PATH OF A BULLET! Geez, when are you idiots going to catch on?

Poster 3: A flat trajectory shot into an area known to be unoccupied might have prevented this incident.

Poster #4: Well, if the shithead hadda been wearin' his pointy hat, the bullet woulda glanced off and all this embarrasin' press coulda been avoided! Moron!

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[SkydiverRick 0]

Why would it do that? A spinning bullet is stabilized by the gyroscopic moment of its spin. That means it always tends to point the direction it was originally facing. It's not aerodynamically stable; that means it doesn't care where it's pointing in relationship to the wind. If it were aerodynamically stable, JR's experiment would have resulted in the slugs falling stably, pointy end down.

[JohnRich 4]

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My guess is that the bullet would fall heavy end down (pointed side up).

Yes, that often happens. An Army guy named Hatcher did a bunch of experiments for various things for the government.

In one of them, he floated out into a big pond on a raft, containing a shelter with a tin roof. Then he fired a machine gun up into the air, ducked under the roof, and timed how long it took the bullets to splash down in the water around him. (Some guys get all the fun jobs.) From this, and the known muzzle velocity, he calculated how high the bullets went, and their terminal velocity on their freefall back to earth.

One of the things he noticed was that when the bullets dinged the tin roof, the impression made was often of the base end of the bullet, indicating that they returned to earth, still spin-stabilized, base-first.

If there is any angle to the trajectory, however, they can nose over and come down point-first.

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why would kkk be a good name

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[PhillyKev 0]

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That would be Jason Lee filming the Crow 2.

Don't know about that but I know there was another guy on a TV show that did this. Darwin Award?

My bad...actually Brandon Lee but he didn't do it himself. A prop guy screwed up.

http://www.bruceandbrandon.info/library/print/brandon/harris2.html

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>If, at the top of the tradjectory, the bullet is still riffling, it will turn
> around and fall back pointing downards as oppose to spinning all
> about.

Why would it do that? A spinning bullet is stabilized by the gyroscopic moment of its spin. That means it always tends to point the direction it was originally facing. It's not aerodynamically stable; that means it doesn't care where it's pointing in relationship to the wind. If it were aerodynamically stable, JR's experiment would have resulted in the slugs falling stably, pointy end down.

Straight up, straight down yes. Because the projectile will lose all positive (upwards) speed before coming back. I'm assuming more of an arc though. Where, though the vertical component of it's speed dwindles down to nothing before picking up in the opposite (downward) direction, it keeps a certain horizontal component at all times. No matter how minute this horizontal component, it keeps the bullet 'flying', and thus, the riffling would keep it pointed into it's relative wind... like a football. Once fired at 45 degrees, it does not keep this attitude, or angle of attack if you will, but slowly turns to assume the everchanging direction of flight. A fired bullet is aerodynamically stable so long as it keeps going. It has a small end and a fat end.

Am I wrong in this thinking?

My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

[goose491 0]

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My bad...actually Brandon Lee but he didn't do it himself. A prop guy screwed up.

http://www.bruceandbrandon.info/library/print/brandon/harris2.html

And it was during the filiming of the first Crow. They weren't done and they almost didn't release it. They had to finish filming with a lot of digital stuff and stunt man work.

The actual scene where he gets tagged was used. You know the scene where he's standing atop a table and gets wasted by a whole bunch o' bad guys... falls flat backwards and plays dead for a moment before getting back up and taking everyone out? (great shooting scene)? Apparently, it's during this scene that he took the injury, he died later, in hospital.

For those of you who know the film well. Do you remember when he's walking down the street on Halloween and sees a bunch of kids in costumes running and giggling? There is a closeup on his face as he smiles at them? You may wonder why they slow it down and eventually pause on a still shot of his smilling mug... It's because this was apparently the last official shot of him before his death. (Other than the one where he gets hurt)

My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!