bodypilot90 0 #1 November 15, 2003 The "Undeniable Truths" were part of an article written for the Sacramento Union back in 1988. Here they are: 1. The greatest threat to humanity lies in the nuclear arsenal of the USSR. 2. The greatest threat to humanity lies in the USSR. 3. Peace does not mean the elimination of nuclear weapons. 4. Peace does not mean the absence of war. 5. War is not obsolete. 6. Ours is a world governed by the aggressive use of force. 7. There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons - use them. 8. Peace cannot be achieved by developing a "understanding" with the Russian People. 9. When Americans oppose America, it is not always courageous and sacred; it is sometimes dangerous. 10. Communism Kills. 11. Neither the US, nor anyone else, imposes freedom on the peoples of other nations. 12. Freedom is God given. 13. In the USSR, peace means the absence of opposition. 14. To free peoples, peace means the absence of threats and the presence of justice. 15. The Peace Movement in the US, whether by accident or design, is pro-Communist. 16. The collective knowledge and wisdom of 'seasoned' citizens is the most valuable, yet untapped, resource our young-people have. 17. The greatest football team in the history of civilization is the Pittsburgh Steelers of 1975-1980. 18. There is no such thing as war atrocities. 19. War itself is an atrocity. 20. There is a God. 21. Abortion is wrong. 22. Morality is not defined and cannot be defined by individual choice. 23. Evolution cannot explain Creation. 24. Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society. 25. Love is the only human emotion that cannot be controlled. 26. The only difference between Mikhail Gorbachev and previous Soviet leaders, is that Gorbachev is alive. 27. Soviet Leaders are just left-wing dictators. 28. Abe Lincoln saved this nation. 29. The L.A. Raiders will never be the team that they were when they called Oakland their home. 30. The US will again go to war. 31. To more and more people, a victorious US is a sinful US. 32. This is frightening and ominous. 33. There will always be poor people. 34. This is not the fault of the rich. 35. You should thank God for making you an American; and instead of feeling guilty about it, help spread our ideas worldwide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #2 November 15, 2003 1. There is a distinct singular American culture - rugged individualism and self-reliance - which made America great. 2. The vast majority of the rich in this country did not inherit their wealth; they earned it. They are the country's achievers, producers, and job creators. 3. No nation has ever taxed itself into prosperity. 4. Evidence refutes liberalism. 5. There is no such thing as a New Democrat. 6. The Earth's eco-system is not fragile. 7. Character matters; leadership decends from character. 8. The most beautiful thing about a tree is what you do with it after you cut it down. 9. Ronald Reagan was the greatest President of the twentieth century. 10. The 1980s was not a decade of greed but a decade of prosperity; it was the longest period of peacetime growth in American history. 11. Abstinence prevents sexually transmitted disease and pregnancy -every time it's tried. 12. Condoms only work during the school year. 13. Poverty is not the root cause of crime. 14. There's a simple way to solve the crime problem: obey the law; punish those who do not. 15. If you commit a crime, you are guilty. 16. Women should not be allowed on juries where the accused is a stud. 17. The way to improve our schools is not more money, but the reintroduction of moral and spiritual values, as well as the four "R's": reading, 'riting, 'rithmatic, and Rush. 18. I am not arrogant. 19. My first 35 Undeniable Truths are still undeniably true. 20. There is a God. 21. There is something wrong when critics say the problem with America is too much religion. 22. Morality is not defined by individual choice. 23. The only way liberals win national elections is by pretending they're not liberals. 24. Feminism was established as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society. 25. Follow the money. When somebody says, "It's not the money," it's always the money. 26. Liberals attempt through judicial activism what they cannot win at the ballot box. 27. Using federal dollars as a measure, our cities have not been neglected, but poisoned with welfare dependency funds. 28. Progress is not striving for economic justice or fairness, but economic growth. 29. Liberals measure compassion by how many people are given welfare. Conservatives measure compassion by how many people no longer need it. 30. Compassion is no substitute for justice. 31. The culture war is between the winners and those who think they're losers who want to become winners. The losers think the only way they can become winners is by banding together all the losers and then empowering a leader of the losers to make things right for them. 32. The Los Angeles riots were not caused by the Rodney King verdict. The Los Angeles riots were caused by rioters. 33. You could afford your house without your government - if it weren't for your government. 34. Words mean things. 35. Too many Americans can't laugh at themselves anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbrian 0 #3 November 15, 2003 My list was shorter. In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #4 November 15, 2003 Oh great another a$$hat bullshit thread. blues jerry ----------------------------------------------------------- American by birth Antichrist by choice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samhussey 0 #5 November 15, 2003 A great many of these things are deniable. These are mostly opinions, not "undeniable truths". Just my 2p Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #6 November 15, 2003 Heh.... Ummm, [smiley with one eyebrow raised] yeah . . . OK . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samhussey 0 #7 November 15, 2003 Just stirrin' some debate... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #8 November 15, 2003 Some things are SO rediculous that they don't need to be debated. It just so happens that the Democrats policies and platform are one of them.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #9 November 15, 2003 QuoteOh great another a$$hat bullshit thread. So people who put forth viewpoints that differ from yours are asshats? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karma 3 #10 November 15, 2003 How is this relevant now. I mean, these "truths" where written in 1988, that 15 years ago. I think the world and these "truths" would have changed over the years. Reading these truths I get the feeling that these where used for propaganda purposes. Grtz. karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #11 November 15, 2003 Well, for one thing - It's similar to what I heard on the radio yestreday in a clip from Senator Kennedy only four years ago: (Paraphrasing) I"I believe that every issue discussed here deserves an up and down vote. Let's just get it in the open and let us vote on it, there's been too much discussion already." OK, then as the power switched in the senate - Hypocrisy evolves - Yesterday and about the 30 hour debate where federal judges could be chosen - (Paraphrasing again) "It is the responsibility of every democrat to philibuster these issues . . ." So there are two completely different views from the same man - and this is only four years apart from both statements. If the power changed in the senate again, do you think his opinion might change?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #12 November 15, 2003 Don't you ever get tired of posting drivel. Like this http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=450206#450206 and this http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=403048#403048 and this http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=439913#439913... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kai2k1 0 #13 November 15, 2003 That's a Rush Limbaugh classic, they played it on his show yesterday (FRIDAY) There's no truer sense of flying than sky diving," Scott Cowan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #14 November 15, 2003 Things some people will never learn. 1) No nation has ever taxed itself into prosperity. 2) Evidence refutes liberalism. list shortened to help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripper0289 0 #15 November 15, 2003 And another: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #16 November 15, 2003 Here's an undeniable truth: Y'all just triggered the alarm on my Bullshit Detector! Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #17 November 15, 2003 you are right Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #18 November 15, 2003 I would add: "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quatorze 1 #19 November 16, 2003 1) Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah 2) Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the Christian religion 3) Baptist do not recognize each other in Hooter's or the liqour store I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #20 November 16, 2003 QuoteSo there are two completely different views from the same man - and this is only four years apart from both statements. If the power changed in the senate again, do you think his opinion might change? I think it is safe to assume his liver will give out by then. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #21 November 16, 2003 another undeniable truth The Sacramento Union went under in 1994.I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #22 November 16, 2003 Man, I sometimes wish I was a regular Rush Limbaugh listener and devotee / dittohead so that I could go into "The Essential Stack of Shit" and pull out gems like these. Then again, I'm gladder that I haven't been brainwashed into repeating things ripped off and regurgitated by a big, fat, idiot masquerading as the voice of conservatism with "talent on loan from God". Talk about pretentious and blasphemous. Fortunately, for reseach purposes, all I have to do is use Google and enough web sites pop-up from Rush-geeks to confirm all suspicions of where this comes from in recent history.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripper0289 0 #23 November 16, 2003 Then again, I'm gladder that I haven't been brainwashed into repeating things ripped off and regurgitated by a big, fat, idiot masquerading as the voice of conservatism with "talent on loan from God". Talk about pretentious and blasphemous*** I know this won't make me a very popular person with the Mods . . . Liberals amuse me to no end. Every day I hear the commies, I mean liberals, calling us mean spirited and bigoted, but it's quite acceptable for them to call someone a big, fat, idiot. . . . Every liberal I've talked to has been woefully prepared to back up their arguments, but that's OK for them because they care so deeply. Hogwash. Start listening to Rush on a regular basis and then come back and argue your point, I'll have more respect for your opinion then, and before you ask, yes, I do listen to liberals on talk radio when I can find them. edited to remove attacks. People who live in glass houses and all that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyMadness 0 #24 November 16, 2003 The 5 Basic Rules of Conservative Blather: 1) What the public doesn't know, I'm not going to tell them 2) Don't bother me with the facts, my mind is made up! 3) If you can't attack the data, attack the people! 4) Do your research by proclamation, investigation is too much trouble. 5) Whatever Rush, Savage, Fox News, or a defunct conservative rag (Union) says I will accept as gospel and regurgitate as "Undeniable Truths." Sad...but true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonSanta 0 #25 November 16, 2003 Hahahah, this list is quite amusing :). Bet these undeniable truths are pretty deniable now. I liked the last one the best: You should thank God for making you an American; and instead of feeling guilty about it, help spread our ideas worldwide. Oh yes, Kipling's The White Man's Burden all over. Askthe Brits how well their attempts to educate the barbarian masses went. And the Goid sentiment expressed here, well, bad Religion said it best in "American Jesus": I feel sorry For the earth’s population ’cuz so few Live in the u.s.a. At least the foreigners Can copy our morality They can visit but they cannot stay We’ve got the american jesus See him on the interstate We’ve got the american jesus He helped build the President’s estate Kickass Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites