rhino 0 #1 November 13, 2003 http://www.msnbc.com/news/992826.asp?0cv=CA01 THIS PISSES ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #2 November 13, 2003 That is bullshit, Rhino. The military is unbelievable sometimes. THe fact that my ex had to pay to be on the freakin aircraft carrier was always unbelievable to me. Flight pay or no, it was still bullshit. And God forbid when they made a mistake and did overpay you for something, they were guaranteed to take it out immediately. All at once. They always made sure they had their money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12bhi 0 #3 November 13, 2003 Same feelings here!! Fuck this war and fuck this carnie rat government Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #4 November 13, 2003 Looks like a 'corporation' instead of 'government', so the new name is now: National Guard Inc. Fuck!!!__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #5 November 13, 2003 I bet congress isn't having pay problems... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hey-babyva 0 #6 November 13, 2003 Bush & Co. (formally called The United States of America) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkF 0 #7 November 13, 2003 QuoteI bet congress isn't having pay problems... No bet. Like everyone else in the work force those people are doing their jobs to the best of their abilities, as far as we can tell, and at the very LEAST their employers should be able to pay 'em the right amount on time. Most people are able to tell their employer to fuck off if they mess 'em around like this. These people just can't do that... Ooroo Mark F... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #8 November 13, 2003 QuoteFuck this war and fuck this carnie rat government Let's see; some soldiers are having pay problems, and from that one problem, you think the entire war is unjustified, as well as the entire government? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hey-babyva 0 #9 November 13, 2003 You have to admint Bush has "us" digging a hole in this "war effort" Read about Vietnam sure is not there (yet) but the Iraq (or some group that does not the U.S.) is killing our troops off pretty damn fast esp. since the first of the month Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #10 November 13, 2003 The war was justified.. The pay problems aren't... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hey-babyva 0 #11 November 13, 2003 I will say going over there was justified but pandora's box was open.................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #12 November 13, 2003 everything about this was is a lie, cheat or steal. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeMike 0 #13 November 13, 2003 Every company has payroll problems. It is a hugely complicated and labor intensive part of having employees. The only reason this made the news is because of the sensationalism. Some were overpaid too, showing that this is all an honest (and mabye ignorant) mistake. I have been shorted and overpaid more times than I can count. That people blame bush for payroll errors is absurd. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee03 0 #14 November 13, 2003 Absolute BULLSHIT! But nothing new.. unfortunately, nothing new about the government fucking over the military! Government has and always will SUCK! There isn't a damned politician in EITHER party that can be trusted! Definetion of a politician: from the root word politic. poli - Latin for many.. tic - blood sucking parasite! Sums up the goverment as a whole quite appropritely Many blood sucking parasites!-------- To put your life in danger from time to time ... breeds a saneness in dealing with day-to-day trivialities. --Nevil Shute, Slide Rule Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12bhi 0 #15 November 13, 2003 Certainly........ This war is C.R.A.P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give me one reason that justifies this war, besides all the CNN spoon fed hoopla..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #16 November 13, 2003 QuoteAnd God forbid when they made a mistake and did overpay you for something, they were guaranteed to take it out immediately. All at once. They always made sure they had their money. not trying to be on the other side here as i have had my pay screwed up numeerous times also, but if they overpaid then there shouldn't be a problem. i always know how much "should" be in my pay and if i get overpaid (hapens about twice a year for me) ijust sit on the money, cuz i know they screwed up and will take it back so it's no problem. on a diffrent note... i see it all the time... people's pay messed up and even saw a guy that switched services not get paid for about 3 months. luckily he had savings and was okay,finally they cut him a paper check (almost unheard of now adays) lets just all say it DFAS (defence finance and acounting office) SUCKS!!! ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScubaSteve 0 #17 November 13, 2003 No wonder the system has problems. Look who is in charge... David M. Walker became the seventh Comptroller General of the United States and began his 15-year term when he took his oath of office on November 9, 1998. As Comptroller General, Mr. Walker is the nation’s chief accountability officer and head of the U.S. General Accounting Office (GAO), a legislative branch agency founded in 1921. GAO’s mission is to help improve the performance and assure the accountability of the federal government for the benefit of the American people. Over the years, GAO has earned a reputation for professional objective, fact-based, and nonpartisan reviews of government issues and operations. The long tenure of the Comptroller General gives GAO a continuity of leadership and independence that is rare within government. Both elements help to allow GAO to consider long-range and cross-governmental issues and alert policymakers to problems looming on the horizon, such as the growing burden of entitlement programs or the nation’s deteriorating infrastructure. Before his appointment as Comptroller General, Mr. Walker had extensive executive level experience in both government and private industry. Between 1989 and 1998, Mr. Walker worked at Arthur Andersen LLP, where he was a partner and global managing director of the human capital services practice based in Atlanta, Georgia. He was also a member of the board of Arthur Andersen Financial Advisors, a registered investment advisor. While a partner at Arthur Andersen, Mr. Walker served as a Public Trustee for Social Security and Medicare from 1990 to 1995. Before joining Arthur Andersen, Mr. Walker was Assistant Secretary of Labor for Pension and Welfare Benefit Programs from 1987 to 1989 and in 1985, was Acting Executive Director of the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation. His earlier technical, professional, and business experience was with Price Waterhouse, Coopers & Lybrand and Source Services Corporation, an international human resources consulting and search firm. Mr. Walker serves as Chair of the U.S. Intergovernmental Audit Forum, the U.S. Joint Financial Management Improvement Program, and the Center for Continuous Auditing. He is on the Board of the International Organization of Supreme Audit Institutions and various educational and not-for-profit entities. He is a Fellow of the National Academy of Public Administration and an active member of various professional public service, and other organizations. Mr. Walker is also listed in Who’s Who in the World and Who’s Who in America. Mr. Walker is the author of Retirement Security: Understanding and Planning Your Financial Future (John Wiley & Sons, 1996) and a co-author of Delivering on the Promise: How to Attract, Manage and Retain Human Capital (Free Press, 1998). He has also written numerous articles and opinion letters on a variety of subjects. Mr. Walker is frequently quoted on a range of government and management issues and has been the subject of several cover stories in various national, professional and governmental journals. Mr. Walker is a certified public accountant. He has a B.S. degree in accounting from Jacksonville University, a Senior Management in Government Certificate in public policy from the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, and a Honorary Doctorate in Business Administration from Bryant College. He is married to the former Mary Etheredge, and they have two adult children—a daughter, Carol, and a son, Andy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #18 November 13, 2003 Same government that many are asking to handle health care.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Designer 0 #19 November 13, 2003 Wow,sorry dude.The "Gov" has that line in Blazing saddles,"It's good to be the king". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #20 November 13, 2003 I'm pretty sure that was "History of the World Part I."A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #21 November 13, 2003 QuoteEvery company has payroll problems. It is a hugely complicated and labor intensive part of having employees. The only reason this made the news is because of the sensationalism. Come on buddy, give your head a shake. There are not many companies out there were in 6 divisions 94% of the employees had pay problems. It is not sensationolism. You are asking people to posibly make the ultimate sacrificy for their country, but you can't pay them on time or for the right amount? That is news, because with those error levels it is not obviously not a minor administrative problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #22 November 13, 2003 no you don't understand. Sure they over pay a couple people... but they take the overpayments back rigth away. The Govt will be sure to get their money. Byt far the problem is underpayment. The problem is not in the federal system, it is in the state system. The individual states are the ones that pay National guard and reserve....Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoysPlayThing 0 #23 November 13, 2003 F**kers!!!! _______________________________________________ My mind is like a parachute...it functions only when open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #24 November 13, 2003 QuoteYou have to admint Bush has "us" digging a hole in this "war effort" ... the Iraq (or some group that does not the U.S.) is killing our troops off pretty damn fast esp. since the first of the month I don't admit that at all. As war goes, this is one with some of the lightest casualties ever. You weren't under the illusion that war can be fought without people being killed, are you? Note that "since the first of the month" is an aberation, and should not be used to characterize the fatality rate of the entire involvement. They got lucky once or twice - that's all that is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #25 November 13, 2003 QuoteThe war was justified.. The pay problems aren't... Correct. This properly places the blame where it belongs. I feel the other poster was improperly expanding the scope of his attributions, to say that because of the pay problem, the entire was was unjustified. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
