dgskydive 0 #26 November 11, 2003 PM that to Andy maybe he will think before he spouts out his ass again!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryskydives 0 #27 November 11, 2003 That's strange, I don't remember asking anyone to go over to Iraq and kill people for me. ------------------------------------------------------ Americans gave their lives at the rate of about 300 a day for about 4ys to help europe secure the freedoms they have today. Maybe if someday the middle east enjoys the same freedoms, they to will be able to make similar ungrateful posts on veterans day. Don't run out of altitude and experience at the same time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #28 November 12, 2003 QuoteIf it weren't for U.S. Soldiers he would be speaking German right now or not even alive because his relatives could have been killed! So maybe this young man owes my relatives a real BIG THANK YOU! I understand you were upset when you posted that but I feel there is a flip-side to that. Perhaps you should be thanking the Allies who held out against formidable odds until America decided to enter the war (heard of the Battle of Britain?). I am South African, I did my national service in the infantry (keeping the peace in some rather shitty situations). My father served in Operations Reindeer and Savanah in Angola in the seventies, my grandfather was decorated for bravery in World War 1 (Royal Merchant navy). Attitudes like yours that we 'owe' America anything as far as WW2 are concerned really piss me off. Anyway, America entered the war because it was attacked, not as a 'favour' to anybody. My thanks are to all the Allied servicemen who gave their lives so we that we can enjoy freedom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #29 November 12, 2003 You are right that I should thank them. THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE VETS AROUND THE WORLD THAT FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM! You and your family included! His comments are not called for and he has shown to be a little shit by the way he chimed in and then disappered. I don't wanna fight with you at all. You are right about the reason that the U.S. joined in the war, but if you think that that war could have been won with out the U.S. you are mistaken! This isn't a day to fight about who owes who. This is a day to remember and thank all the men and women that fought for there country. If I offended you I am sorry. But the fact is that without U.S. help the Germans could have and would have won, allies or not! Doesn't matter why we got into the war, what matters is that my Grandfather died fighting on British soil to help them keep there freedom and this guy just chimes in with his comments when nobody asked or provoked him.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #30 November 12, 2003 QuoteYou are right that I should thank them. THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE VETS AROUND THE WORLD THAT FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM! You and your family included! His comments are not called for and he has shown to be a little shit by the way he chimed in and then disappered. I don't wanna fight with you at all. You are right about the reason that the U.S. joined in the war, but if you think that that war could have been won with out the U.S. you are mistaken! This isn't a day to fight about who owes who. This is a day to remember and thank all the men and women that fought for there country. If I offended you I am sorry. But the fact is that without U.S. help the Germans could have and would have won, allies or not! Doesn't matter why we got into the war, what matters is that my Grandfather died fighting on British soil to help them keep there freedom and this guy just chimes in with his comments when nobody asked or provoked him. All the Allied Veterans deserve our thanks. WWII could not have been won without the US troops. Neither could it have been won without the USSR. Neither could it have been won if the Battle of Britain went the other way. Hitler would have won had it not been for Russian, British, Canadian, ANZAC, South African, Indian, Rhodesian, and others who fought the Nazis for 3 years before US troops saw significant action. They were ALLIES - they all fought on the same side against a tyranny.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flygator 0 #31 November 12, 2003 QuoteThat's strange, I don't remember asking anyone to go over to Iraq and kill people for me. A peckerhead in every crowd... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andrewstewart 0 #32 November 12, 2003 QuoteGood point. You probably did not. Nor did you ask those that served in the Revolution, The Civil war , WWI, WWII, The Cold War, Korea, Vietnam, Granada, Desert Storm, ( I know I left a few out) or any of the many covert operations the public knows nothing about. I appreciate and thank you for your willingness to use your freedom that is protected by those you did not ask to post to this forum. You'll see from my post that I wasn't refering to any of those events, I was refering specifically to the current events in Iraq. I don't believe 'freedom' has ever been realistically threatened by Saddam or Iraq, hence my post. If anything, I think that the US forces being over there is encouraging more of a threat to come into existance than was previously there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andrewstewart 0 #33 November 12, 2003 QuoteQuoteI don't remeber anyone asking you to post in this thread! If you are going to be negative then don't post! What have you ever done for your country? What have you ever done to help people that needed it? If you haven't been there then you don't know. It is not about killing people. It is about helping people that have no one else to help them. You look into the eyes of a 10 yeard old little kid who's mother was raped by Iraqi soldiers and his father was killed, then talk shit! Comments like yours show ignorance to what a soldier is going through! Jerk! It's not about killing people? You and I obviously have a different definition of war. Is this how we "help people who have no one else to help them?" - Up to 15,000 iraqis killed in Iraq invasion: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1073070,00.html Over 1,500 violent civilian deaths in occupied Baghdad: http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ibc23sep03.htm Iraq faces severe health crisis: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3259489.stm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites andrewstewart 0 #34 November 12, 2003 QuoteHis comments are not called for and he has shown to be a little shit by the way he chimed in and then disappered. Your comments weren't 'called for' either but it didn't stop you from posting. Seems like a hypocritical double standard to me... And how does me not replying make me a 'little shit'? I think that says more about you... not me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hooknswoop 19 #35 November 12, 2003 Enough. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
andrewstewart 0 #34 November 12, 2003 QuoteHis comments are not called for and he has shown to be a little shit by the way he chimed in and then disappered. Your comments weren't 'called for' either but it didn't stop you from posting. Seems like a hypocritical double standard to me... And how does me not replying make me a 'little shit'? I think that says more about you... not me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #35 November 12, 2003 Enough. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
