Fullonmother 0 #1 January 20, 2008 Hi all - heard about a reserve main entanglement and wondered if it was caused by the RSL. I am considering discconnecting my RSL - as I am concerned about this possibility. Can anyone tell me - Is the time gap between cutting away the main and the automatic deployment of the reserve definately long enough...I am absolutley sure that I would have no problem in deploying my reserve fast in the heat of the battle. I practise my reserve drills not once but three times on every jump and I expect a mal on every jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2 January 20, 2008 Here we go again "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #3 January 20, 2008 Here's a nice little bit of reading about RSLs Top 5 RSL mythsOwned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #4 January 20, 2008 How about a swedish snap shacke on the RSL so if you feel that you are in an exceptional circumstance where you should not be using the RSL then you can quickly disconnect it. -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #5 January 20, 2008 Quoteif you feel that you are in an exceptional circumstance where you should not be using the RSL then you can quickly disconnect it. Your asnswer isa bit trite and maybe even harmful. At the best it's naive, Hackish. The middle of an emergency is not the time that anyone with limited experience needs to be thinking about whether or not to disconnect an RSL.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #6 January 21, 2008 QuoteHow about a swedish snap shacke on the RSL so if you feel that you are in an exceptional circumstance where you should not be using the RSL then you can quickly easily disconnect it before boarding the aircraft or when being dragged around in a high wind after landing. -Michael Better? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkie 0 #7 January 21, 2008 QuoteI am absolutley sure that I would have no problem in deploying my reserve fast in the heat of the battle. That's impossible. You can never be 100% sure of how you would handle an emergency, especially your first. A statement like this looks like overconfidence, thats very dangerous. There good threads on rsl or no rsl, look em up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #8 January 21, 2008 QuoteBetter? Much better.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #9 January 21, 2008 Quote Quote I am absolutely sure that I would have no problem in deploying my reserve fast in the heat of the battle. That's impossible. You can never be 100% sure of how you would handle an emergency, especially your first. A statement like this looks like overconfidence, that's very dangerous. There good threads on rsl or no rsl, look em up. In the 'heat of battle', my money is on the guy that says I KNOW I CAN as opposed to the one that says I DUNNO. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #10 January 21, 2008 >Is the time gap between cutting away the main and the automatic >deployment of the reserve definately long enough... Yes, it is. >I am absolutley sure that I would have no problem in deploying my >reserve fast in the heat of the battle. I am pretty sure the people who cut away too low at Rantoul 05 felt the same way. But they did not get their reserves out in time. (Note that they also had AAD's but they were too low to get to activation speed.) >I practise my reserve drills not once but three times on every jump and I >expect a mal on every jump. Let's take another example - Rick Horn. He had about 6000 jumps, and he was an AFF course director, which meant he was teaching _instructors_ how to do/teach cutaway procedures quite often. He was also an active AFF instructor, which meant that he demonstrated actual cutaways with a training harness most weekends. He had a mal, got spun up, and could not find his reserve handle - so he just cut away. Fortunately his RSL opened his reserve. Now, it is unlikely that you are more experienced than Rick, or that you practice emergency procedures more often than Rick did. And yet he could not pull his reserve. That's why RSL's and AAD's are still used, because no matter how experienced/practiced you are, you can still screw up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fullonmother 0 #11 January 21, 2008 OK - sounds good - thanks for that guys, By the way - if I cream in because of my RSL now - I'm going come back and haunt you bastads forever. Fullonmother Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladydyver 0 #12 January 21, 2008 DPH # 2 "I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~ I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #13 January 22, 2008 There, AFAIK, is not a single fatality report that has a final cause which can be attributed to a single sided RSL.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #14 January 22, 2008 QuoteThere, AFAIK, is not a single fatality report that has a final cause which can be attributed to a single sided RSL. Strong tandem broken riser. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #15 January 22, 2008 Sorry, I'm going to have to log that one as faulty construction, failed maintenance. And should have added "sport gear" to the original post.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstime 0 #16 January 23, 2008 In the 'heat of battle', my money is on the guy that says I KNOW I CAN as opposed to the one that says I DUNNO. Wink ditto Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #17 January 25, 2008 QuoteQuoteif you feel that you are in an exceptional circumstance where you should not be using the RSL then you can quickly disconnect it. Your asnswer isa bit trite and maybe even harmful. At the best it's naive, Hackish. The middle of an emergency is not the time that anyone with limited experience needs to be thinking about whether or not to disconnect an RSL. Actually there was a definite point to the comment. For a beginner and from a beginner's point of view there are not many cases where one would want to remove the RSL. Also, when you've got something to be chopped then the most likely reaction is to follow your muscle memory in executing the EP's. Snap shackle is unlikely to even be a consideration. -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tetra316 0 #18 January 27, 2008 I have my RSL disonnected. But then again only because I also jump camera. But I do have a Cypress AAD. I don't want the off chance that I have an entanglement while jumping camera so I disconnected it but always activate my Cypress. Make of it what you will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #19 January 27, 2008 Quote Quote Quote I am absolutely sure that I would have no problem in deploying my reserve fast in the heat of the battle. That's impossible. You can never be 100% sure of how you would handle an emergency, especially your first. A statement like this looks like overconfidence, that's very dangerous. There good threads on rsl or no rsl, look em up. In the 'heat of battle', my money is on the guy that says I KNOW I CAN as opposed to the one that says I DUNNO. Of course, it could well be that the "I KNOW I CAN" person is suffering from inflated self-assessment. A common problem among the incompetent, apparently. 64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:vlX_V9SqScUJ:www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf+unskilled+and+unaware+of+it.&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #20 January 27, 2008 Of course, it could well be that the "I KNOW I CAN" person is suffering from inflated self-assessment. Quote Aren't we all to one extent or another? All said & done, two people with the exact same tools and skills...my $ is on the one that believes in himself. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites