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I have no doubt that the process was followed.

I also have no doubt that the outcome would have been different had the Supreme court been dominated by Democrats. Little point in having a vote if you're going to appoint someone anyway.

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No, mostly they are people who realise that saying things like "Bring it on!" is perhaps not the most prudent thing to do when the lives of others are on the line.

I know of no teacher who willfully encourages misbehavior in their class, or a skydiving instructor who wishes his/her students a malfunction regardless of how well they have trained.

Speaking of which, is your slider stuck up in your Avitar?

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This poll does appeal to contemporary lefties though. They get to vote against something. But don't have to decide what to vote 'for'.

typical

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It's a simple Poll.

The dude is in.

Do you want him in next time?

Yes or No?

I can't see how that will appeal more to one group than another. I'm happy with the way things have gone in the last few years. With the Dollar having weakened as much as it has - I can save 1000's on the cost of new gear, and as a foreigner - jumps in the US are getting cheaper by the day - and that's what really counts.

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Heee heee

Actually, it's human tendency to have an easier time voting against something than to pick from choices. I hear the following a lot "I don't like (whoever)" - but then what/who would you do as an alternate? -
"I don't know, but not that guy/action/whatever". The seven (9, 10, 5?) dwarfs are still running against the current admin, not for something.

I have a friend at work who's into practical applications of statistics. I'll ask him Monday if there is any historical data on polls of this type.

Just to escalate -
1 - We have an electoral system, Gore tried to derail it, the supreme court upheld the decision. A majority 'nationwide' has never been determined. Look at the 'by county' map, it looks like the last california election.
2 - Every recount before and after the decision favored Bush
3 - For those expats who think they made the difference, that group was specifically targetted by the Dems to 'disenfranchise'. At best, Dems were guilty of shenanigans, at worst, both parties.

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No, mostly they are people who realise that saying things like "Bring it on!" is perhaps not the most prudent thing to do when the lives of others are on the line.



True. Bush has a lot of positives, IMO, but he has a lot of negatives too, like lousy speaking abilities and too much testosterone . . . I really wish we'd have done better in the last election. However, I'll still vote for him in the next election because, like last time, there is no better choice.

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Speaking of which, is your slider stuck up in your Avitar?



No, I'm just trying to outdo the recently mentioned banned jumper with the 25 ft risers. B|


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because, like last time, there is no better choice.

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That's where I'm at.
Here's a clip from a poll (summarized by Fox News - any opinions on that?) Sorry about the cut and paste distortion.

27. So far, do you think the Democratic presidential candidates are spending more time (attacking President Bush and his policies) or more time (explaining what their own policies would be if they were to become president)? (ROTATE)
SCALE: 1. Attacking President Bush and his policies 2. Explaining their own policy positions 3. (Both) 4. (Neither) 5. (Not sure)

Attacking Explaining (Both) (Neither) (NS)

28-29 Oct 03
All 61% 18 7 2 12
Dem 49% 27 9 3 12
Rep 81% 8 4 1 6
Ind 55% 17 10 2 16

9-10 Sep 03
All 59% 14 12 3 12
Dem 43% 22 15 4 16
Rep 79% 7 7 1 6
Ind 49% 13 17 5 16


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This is quite normal for any party not in power.

That's why they're referred to as "The opposition"

It is their very function to oppose, and when they are the ruling party, to be opposed.

One is the gas, the other the brake. Any other system would be dysfuntional in a democracy.

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Do you remember all the newspapers that did their own recount of all the FL ballots? They had all the time in the world, and each newspaper could have their own people make their own judgement.

Bush won Florida.

I think the electoral college is a good thing.

It keeps a small number of large population states and urban areas from having too much power. No matter how much of a landslide a candidate might have in LA and NY, if he wins a majority in many other small states, he wins. It wasn't the reason for setting up the electoral college in the first place, but I think this is a positive thing. Having the 2 houses of congress structured the way they are - one by state population, one with 2 senators each is similar in the way that power is distributed.

I understand that it is annoying to be out of power. Republicans didn't like it either.
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lol, yea pretty basic stuff



For an american maybe... many here arent.

Ooop... sory, I forgot the world revolves around the US....



Good point, and well taken. But if the people of other nations want to join into a conversation about US politics, they ought first learn the very basic methods of our system . . .


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You sound like HILLARY....

Ohhh Let's get rid of the electoral college cuz I could never win with it in place...

Yeah...let'd get rid of the fucking constitution too and start over... Sound like a good idea???

Fuck off Hillary... You don't like this country, It is not the socialist society you envision??? Well tough shit. It is a republic, a capitolistic society...Move to FRANCE or CANADA if you don't like.

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