George Bush Part 2

[bodypilot90 0]

ok Kev, if you say so. I hope it works well for you.

[billvon 3,058]

>You really want the same kind of people running your heath care as the IRS.

They (government employees) already are in charge of inspecting nuclear power plants, launching military satellites, running our air traffic system, and inspecting all our food. They seem to do OK usually.

>Are YOU willing to pay that?

You're paying for it right now. Uninsured patients are paid for by increases in taxes and insurance premiums. It's an unofficial two tier system; this would effectively be an official two tier system. ("Two tier" means you could still deny the poor many treatments, and get them yourself.)

[bodypilot90 0]

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They (government employees) already are in charge of inspecting nuclear power plants, launching military satellites, running our air traffic system, and inspecting all our food. They seem to do OK usually.

I guess you have never been to the VA. They wait months for a appointment and care has never been considered the best.

[PhillyKev 0]

I guess you've never been to any of the dozens of countries that have good, free health care. Just because the VA is incompetent, doesn't mean it won't work.

[bodypilot90 0]

if you would like I could give you a phone number of a denist that I jump with and the hours he has gave away fixing the substandard dental work from those "dozens of countries that have good, free health care"

[Gravitymaster 0]

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As a generalization, I've found that conservatives tend to be more grumpy/angry than liberals. From my experience, most liberals want to live and enjoy their lives while they last and not be dictated to about how they should go about doing it. Conservatives seem to always think there's something wrong, usually caused by those damn liberals, and want to fix it by imposing their will on others (even though it will never change their outlook). At least that's the general impression that I get.

Then how do you explain this?
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[skydyvr 0]

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Then how do you explain this?
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Obviously, most Oprah fans are conservatives . . . NOT

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[ianmdrennan 2]

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It is.

So is intolerance. Learn to live together folks.

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[mikkey 0]

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Apparently, PhillyKev has been exposed to extreme conservatives, while I've been exposed to extreme liberals. Both will leave a bad taste. Both want to dictate how you and everyone else lives their lives.

This is a very good observation. Outside the US the "extreme liberals" are either socialists or "greens". But it is true - people who are on the far edges of politics are annoying because they have a religious believe in their opinion and will only look at facts that suit them. And both want to tell you what to think and what to do. Totally agree. I would call myself a moderate conservative and the "right wing club" that posts here on Talk Back annoys me as much as the (real) extreme leftists and greens that try to run my live where I live.

I think it was Winston Churchill who once described the political spectrum as circle shaped instead of a line where you go left or right from centre. When you go out from the centre to the left and right the 2 extremes will end up very close together. In many ways extreme right wingers and left wingers have a lot in common.

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[mikkey 0]

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joking aside Kevin I want your honest answer to this. You really want the same kind of people running your heath care as the IRS. To me that is just to scary. And since the single payer heath care would be a federal program you can count on the costs being 40% higher. Are YOU willing to pay that?

It is a US domestic issue, but I am quite sure that the public run health care systems in countries like Canada, Australia and many European countries is actually cheaper to run and does provide better protection and service for your average Joe. Where I live you can take up private insurance and go to private hospitals. But the basic services and doctor visits are either cheap or free and that works well for most people. I think Canada has a very similar system.
I will do a search when I get time, but I am sure that I read about a study that documented that the US system due to its complexity is more expensive to run and you have the problem with people who do not have expensive insurance cover.

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[bodypilot90 0]

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Where I live you can take up private insurance and go to private hospitals.

If the system was so good then why would you need private hospitals? I've talked to more than a few people from Canada and I've heard about long lines and waiting lists. Does not seem like a ideal system to me.

[Amazon 7]

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Please get this traight..

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I guess that the republicans aren't the only ones that can't spell. Welcome to the Dan Quale club.

By the way its spelled Dan Quayle

Now repeat after me.. TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS happen.. spelling potato incorrectly in front of children in a classroom while doing a photo op is a sign of spending too much time partying at the frat house.

I absolutely LOVE Dan's summation of wars in the Middle East

Vietnam is a jungle. You had jungle warfare. Kuwait, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, you have sand. [There is no need to worry about a protracted war because] from a historical basis, Middle East conflicts do not last a long time.
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, 10/2/90 (reported in Esquire, 8/92)

Uh Mr former Vice President...how long has the State of Israel been at war with its neighbors???
He is in very good company with our President though. http://mindprod.com/bush.html

"Peace will come to the Middle East only after everyone stops fighting."
~ George Bush Jr.

[skipro101 0]

I have never voted.

If someone came to my door with a ballot and a pencil in hand, I might take the time to vote. If this happened, I would vote whoever I thought was cooler. I think Bush is cool. He can fly jets and he is a cowboy. What more could you want in a president?

[Tonto 1]

You were "singled out" because you replied to me.

Sorry if I offended.

t

It's the year of the Pig.

[Michele 1]

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You're paying for it right now. Uninsured patients are paid for by increases in taxes and insurance premiums

Just as a total aside...

I have no insurance. And I pay my Dr. cash each time I see him. So, as an "uninsured patient", no one is getting their premiums increased because of me...and no-one is paying the Dr. for me, either. I do not know how I will handle it if it comes to chemo, but I will. So don't worry, your rates aren't increasing because of me.

And now, back to the regularly scheduled post war.

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[FliegendeWolf 0]

Was it billvon who proposed the theory that any post pointing out a spelling error in a previous post (especially one insinuating that the original poster is thereby proven to be a raving idiot) will contain a spelling error of its own?

A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

Libertarian. I voted for Ed Clark in two elections and I don't give a shit if people think it was a "wasted vote." If enough people thought that their individual vote made a difference, then maybe we would not be stuck with only two choices. Hey, a fucking professional wrestler was voted the Governor of the state in Minnesota as an independent because the people of that state thought both "real" candidates SUCKED. I say vote your mind and screw the lemming attitude. Given only two choices, I will vote Republican, but as I do have other choices, I will always vote from the heart, no matter how ridiculous that seems to people who follow party lines.

Chuck

[Amazon 7]

Ain't that the truth.... usually I only play spelling monitor when its pointed out to me that I may have spelled something incorrectly, and even then its tongue in cheek
DUH, like get a clue, when someone gets SO freaking anal retentive about little typographical errors.. or even punctuation such as stream of consciousness.........( notice the dots..... Punctuation NAZI) I am thinking they need far more help than skydiving can bring to their lives.

Speaking of Anal Retentive.... why is it that the people MOST concerned with this PROBLEM are always in the political threads.... usually the RIGHT HAND ones.. is there perhaps.. a correlation???

[FliegendeWolf 0]

I wouldn't say it's a partisan tactic by any means, but I think that when one feels that they are losing an argument, they attempt to discount their opponent through means other than by engaging their (the opponent's) logic.

A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All

[Tonto 1]

That makes sense.

t

It's the year of the Pig.

[skydyvr 0]

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I wouldn't say it's a partisan tactic by any means, but I think that when one feels that they are losing an argument, they attempt to discount their opponent through means other than by engaging their (the opponent's) logic.

Yea, I agree. It's the posters on here that use name calling as a substitue for actual brain power that are really entertaining . . . NOT.

Brilliant commentary like -- "Hey all you conservative wanker yankers, when's your next KLAN meeting" really adds to the mix, don't you think?

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[bodypilot90 0]

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Where I live you can take up private insurance and go to private hospitals.

If the system was so good then why would you need private hospitals? I've talked to more than a few people from Canada and I've heard about long lines and waiting lists. Does not seem like a ideal system to me.

one more time!

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[kallend 2,099]

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Where I live you can take up private insurance and go to private hospitals.

If the system was so good then why would you need private hospitals? I've talked to more than a few people from Canada and I've heard about long lines and waiting lists. Does not seem like a ideal system to me.

one more time!

Why are there private schools in the USA?

As long as it's a free country, people may opt out of public systems. Doesn't mean that public systems shouldn't exist. Something to do with promoting the general welfare, I think.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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