airtwardo 7 #26 November 7, 2003 QuoteQuotePeople don't die without sex. Hence, sex isn't a "need." Speak for yourself! Quote Yeah...what she said! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goose491 0 #27 November 7, 2003 QuoteQuoteVal, we all do things for money... I agree. Unfortunately, I need money for things like food, shelter, hobbies etc. Like I said earlier, I would do many of the same things I do at work for free, however. I just happened to get paid for it. So, the money doesn't really have any kind of "control" over me. I like what I do, I used to do it for fun (yes, I would do math for fun), and the money is just an added bonus. I don't know of many people that would take their clothes off for someone gross and nasty for free. May I present that a lot of rippers love what they do to? I mean, I'm sure there's the odd sad story out there but seriously Gone are the days of forcing women into this type of vocation. QuoteQuoteHave you ever been in a strip club? have you ever seen the things a stripper will make a guy do?... Yes, I have been to one. I don't see the guys doing much other than sitting there. May I suggest you go to a club on a 'Feature night'? hehe beleive me, rippers get guys doing the most riduculous things... AND take their money! It's criminal I tell you. QuoteQuoteWould you say that a junkie giving all his money to a heroine pusher is the one in control simply because he's the one with the money? I think not, I present that the pusher is the one in control. See my parallel? That was a good example, but sexual stuff isn't usually an addiction in healthy individuals.... And you think those "gross and nasty" men that frequent the rippers on a regular basis have a "Healthy" attitude towards sex? Hmmm, some do some don't I'm sure... but make no mistake, it IS an addiction. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #28 November 7, 2003 QuoteMay I present that a lot of rippers love what they do to? I mean, I'm sure there's the odd sad story out there but seriously Gone are the days of forcing women into this type of vocation. Those days are gone? Really? Why do so many women feel like they don't have another choice then? Why do so many women take it up because they can't think of another way to make good, fast money? Would they really love what they do if there was no money involved? Most wouldn't. That's all I was saying. They do not have power or control. They're doing something for money they normally wouldn't do for free, hence money has a control over them. (I doubt many of them would give a 70 year old man a lap dance for free.) QuoteAnd you think those "gross and nasty" men that frequent the rippers on a regular basis have a "Healthy" attitude towards sex? I don't doubt that there are quite a few men with that kind of addiction. However, not everybody who goes to a strip club has an addiction. Almost everyone who tries heroin even once has an addiction. It's not an exact example since addiction is not the norm for strip clubs.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #29 November 7, 2003 QuoteWhy do so many women take it up because they can't think of another way to make good, fast money? Because they can do so in a legal way. As a man, I cant think of a way to make good fast money thats legal, well, except as a male stripper, but lets be honest, even if I was theoriticaly in shape for that, the market is much much smaller: Montreal for exemple has 2 major male striper joints, but I cant start to think how many women stripper joints there are here. Probably in the hundred, maybe a couple hundred.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #30 November 7, 2003 QuoteBecause they can do so in a legal way. Yeah, but they think that it's all they can do....so, they're somewhat "forced" into it. As in, it's many women's last resort. He said that women are no longer forced...I would say that's essentially being forced into it.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #31 November 7, 2003 QuoteI would say that's essentially being forced into it. They are being forced into good fast money? No. They make the choice to go for fast good money. I dont have that choice (I'm not looking for equal opportunities here lol... just stating facts).Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #32 November 7, 2003 QuoteI dont have that choice (I'm not looking for equal opportunities here lol... just stating facts). Sure you do! Male escorts make more than male strippers! QuoteThey are being forced into good fast money? No. Hmmm....they are...somewhat. When they have bill collectors calling constantly, debt to pay off, kids to feed....they need money....lots of it...and quick. Their only other option to getting a lot of fast money would be to go bankrupt. So...it is somewhat "being forced."There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kiltboy 0 #33 November 7, 2003 There was a book written by a lady that put herself through Brown University by dancing. I've not read it but I remember a couple of interviews she gave and it was a well paid job that allowed her to go to school. Sometimes she hated it, sometimes she really enjoyed it. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goose491 0 #34 November 7, 2003 Quote Those days are gone? Really? Why do so many women feel like they don't have another choice then? I couldn't tell you for sure why they feel that way... but they ain't the only ones. My aunt is a nurse, has been for years... now she has kids and a small house... and is getting a little tired of nursing... She don't feel like she has another choice either. She must continue to be a nurse because she can't take the no-income time to learn and start something new. My father is a business man who would like to venture into a non-monkey-suit profession but he's got bills to pay too! He doesn't feel it feasible to do anything else. But they do! So strippin' ain't the only job out there where you'll find people saying "I can't do anything else." When I say "gone are the days of forcing women into this vocation", all I'm saying is that no MAN forces a WOMAN to strip anymore. It a chosen vocation... often chosen because it can make them fast dollars... and big dollars at that. Listen Val, we are all slaves to the dollar. You can't confuse "Slave to the dollar" with "Slave to the men"... you just can't! If I own/work at a convinience store to earn a living, I rely on that customer to come in and give me his dollars yes... I can't make my living unless that customer comes in and gives me his dollars yes... would I say that this man is in control of me? NO! Because I decided to open the store that day. I decided what I'm going to sell there and what I'm not selling... Interesting convo Val, I really like the way you state your case Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #35 November 7, 2003 QuoteSure you do! Male escorts make more than male strippers! It wouldnt be fair to the other escorts if I joined up lmao! Seriously, for good fast money, you'd need to do more then have dinner and a cocktail (the drink type) with the lady. That becomes illegal (I personnaly think prostitution should be decriminalized, but thats another debate). Same as female escorts. If you want to compare apples with apples, use thoseRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goose491 0 #36 November 7, 2003 Quote QuoteThey are being forced into good fast money? No. Hmmm....they are...somewhat. When they have bill collectors calling constantly, debt to pay off, kids to feed....they need money....lots of it...and quick. Their only other option to getting a lot of fast money would be to go bankrupt. So...it is somewhat "being forced." My autn has bills, debt, kids to feed... she needs money... lotsl of it... and quick. She doesn't feel this "forced" her to become a nurse though. We ALL have bills, debt, kids to feed... (well maybe not, but you get the idea... strippers aren't the only ones that need money!) Val, do you happen to know any rippers? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #37 November 7, 2003 QuoteYeah, but they think that it's all they can do....so, they're somewhat "forced" into it. As in, it's many women's last resort. Not true at all. My gf is a stripper. She likes it because she is an independent contractor. She workst the hours that she wants, when she wants. If she needs extra money, she works an extra day. If she doesn't, she takes the day off. When we first started dating, business was slow where she worked and she wasn't making squat. I jokingly said she'd make more money at McDonalds. Her response was that working there would be degrading, she doesn't consider what she does now to be. Business has picked back up at her bar and she's been pulling in $300/day for the past couple weeks working noon to 6pm. Trust me, she's glad she can work at that job instead of a "normal" job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #38 November 7, 2003 QuoteMy gf is a stripper Wasnt she an hostess a while back? Cant keep your women? lmaoRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #39 November 7, 2003 Yeah, well, when I met her she was just working the door.....but she went back to dancing again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #40 November 7, 2003 QuoteYeah, but they think that it's all they can do.... Wow, you know what all strippers think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #41 November 7, 2003 Seriously, Val. Not trying to slam you, but you seem to be the one perpetuating a stereo type of subservient women with your opinions. My gf is a stripper and I'm friends with a few of the girls she works with. They're independent business people who are glad that they have the ability to make money in a way that they find fun and easy. They're not hung up on puritanical ideas about nudity or sexuality. They consider themselves entertainers and that's what they are. They bitch about the sleazy guys who come in and try to cop a feel or whatever, but if someone tries that, they stay away from that person or have them thrown out of the club. And they frequently tell me about the guys who come in who are just lonely and give them money to sit and talk with them about their marital problems, work problems, etc....they're almost therapists to some of these guys. I think you're being overly judgmental and jumping to conclusions based on stereotypes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lummy 4 #42 November 7, 2003 QuoteMy autn has bills, debt, kids to feed... she needs money... lotsl of it... and quick. She doesn't feel this "forced" her to become a nurse though. I have bills, debt, kids to feed... I need money... lots of it... and quick. . I almost sorta wish I had an option to make good fast money by taking my clothes off in front of strangers... My point? I feel that it is wrong to stereotype based on sex of the person. To say that they are being 'forced' solely because they are of one sex and not of another is wrong . Both men and women face the same stressors in life. P.s. I'll be taking donations from anyone who wants to make sure that I DON'T take off my clothes ;)I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #43 November 7, 2003 QuoteP.s. I'll be taking donations from anyone who wants to make sure that I DON'T take off my clothes ;) Quick...what's your paypal account???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #44 November 7, 2003 QuoteUmm...I don't see how it's empowering Let's have the you and BKdice do a strip tease for me, you can have all the power you want!!!!!!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #45 November 7, 2003 QuoteVal, do you happen to know any rippers? Yeah, I knew a few from college. QuoteListen Val, we are all slaves to the dollar. I really don't consider myself to be. If I was, I could easily be making much more money right now. I picked my job becuase I like analytical "stuff," and I'm halfway decent at it. Yes, I did math "stuff" for fun during my spare time. I actually went to professor's office hours to find out the weirdo difficult math stuff they were doing! (Which made me realize I some of the math stuff I could never hack it in!) I found a job that involves a lot of analyzing. If I was a slave to the dollar, I would've stuck with engineering. But, I didn't like the EE labs I was in, so I quit. QuoteBetween this and the "love at first sight" thread, i'd bet you and I could talk in person for hours! It's what I'm good at! QuoteNot true at all. I wasn't saying it was every stripper's last resort, but it is for many. I don't think anyone can deny that. QuoteWow, you know what all strippers think? Ack! You guys aren't actually reading what I'm writing! I'm not saying all! I was saying some! Sheesh! Quoteyou seem to be the one perpetuating a stereo type of subservient women with your opinions. I don't think I'm "perpetuating" anything. I haven't really said anything that wasn't fact. Most strippers would not give a 70 yr old man a lap dance for free. Many do it as a last resort. That, to me, does not show power or control. A person in that situation is being controlled. QuoteThey consider themselves entertainers and that's what they are. Once again, I could buy that if they would do everything they do in a club for free. QuoteTo say that they are being 'forced' solely because they are of one sex and not of another is wrong . No, I knew a guy that was "forced" into being a stripper as well. Actually, it sounded like the women he met were worse than any guy that's ever been in a strip club. But, they were all talking about females, so I stuck with that.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lummy 4 #46 November 7, 2003 tychob or g_lum@yahoo.com quickly people!! The shirts coming off... OOOO..... soft Belly... yummmm ;) I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #47 November 7, 2003 Quote***I almost sorta wish I had an option to make good fast money by taking my clothes off in front of strangers...reply] NO!,, Bad Lummy. People, donate, quickly. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lummy 4 #48 November 7, 2003 STOP making me LAUGH!!! I'm busy looking for the words to the Divinyl's "Touch myself"I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #49 November 7, 2003 I will tell ya one thing Val. I think I speak for most guys when I say this. Strripers are in power! As males the only power we have is the power to get to the club. Once the boobies start flyin' we lose all control and power. The only power we have at that point is the power to breath for ourselves. Something about a hot naked lady that takes away all of our powers!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #50 November 7, 2003 QuoteThe only power we have at that point is the power to breath for ourselves. Okay...so, how about this...neither have power! Does that work for everyone?There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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goose491 0 #27 November 7, 2003 QuoteQuoteVal, we all do things for money... I agree. Unfortunately, I need money for things like food, shelter, hobbies etc. Like I said earlier, I would do many of the same things I do at work for free, however. I just happened to get paid for it. So, the money doesn't really have any kind of "control" over me. I like what I do, I used to do it for fun (yes, I would do math for fun), and the money is just an added bonus. I don't know of many people that would take their clothes off for someone gross and nasty for free. May I present that a lot of rippers love what they do to? I mean, I'm sure there's the odd sad story out there but seriously Gone are the days of forcing women into this type of vocation. QuoteQuoteHave you ever been in a strip club? have you ever seen the things a stripper will make a guy do?... Yes, I have been to one. I don't see the guys doing much other than sitting there. May I suggest you go to a club on a 'Feature night'? hehe beleive me, rippers get guys doing the most riduculous things... AND take their money! It's criminal I tell you. QuoteQuoteWould you say that a junkie giving all his money to a heroine pusher is the one in control simply because he's the one with the money? I think not, I present that the pusher is the one in control. See my parallel? That was a good example, but sexual stuff isn't usually an addiction in healthy individuals.... And you think those "gross and nasty" men that frequent the rippers on a regular basis have a "Healthy" attitude towards sex? Hmmm, some do some don't I'm sure... but make no mistake, it IS an addiction. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #28 November 7, 2003 QuoteMay I present that a lot of rippers love what they do to? I mean, I'm sure there's the odd sad story out there but seriously Gone are the days of forcing women into this type of vocation. Those days are gone? Really? Why do so many women feel like they don't have another choice then? Why do so many women take it up because they can't think of another way to make good, fast money? Would they really love what they do if there was no money involved? Most wouldn't. That's all I was saying. They do not have power or control. They're doing something for money they normally wouldn't do for free, hence money has a control over them. (I doubt many of them would give a 70 year old man a lap dance for free.) QuoteAnd you think those "gross and nasty" men that frequent the rippers on a regular basis have a "Healthy" attitude towards sex? I don't doubt that there are quite a few men with that kind of addiction. However, not everybody who goes to a strip club has an addiction. Almost everyone who tries heroin even once has an addiction. It's not an exact example since addiction is not the norm for strip clubs.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #29 November 7, 2003 QuoteWhy do so many women take it up because they can't think of another way to make good, fast money? Because they can do so in a legal way. As a man, I cant think of a way to make good fast money thats legal, well, except as a male stripper, but lets be honest, even if I was theoriticaly in shape for that, the market is much much smaller: Montreal for exemple has 2 major male striper joints, but I cant start to think how many women stripper joints there are here. Probably in the hundred, maybe a couple hundred.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #30 November 7, 2003 QuoteBecause they can do so in a legal way. Yeah, but they think that it's all they can do....so, they're somewhat "forced" into it. As in, it's many women's last resort. He said that women are no longer forced...I would say that's essentially being forced into it.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #31 November 7, 2003 QuoteI would say that's essentially being forced into it. They are being forced into good fast money? No. They make the choice to go for fast good money. I dont have that choice (I'm not looking for equal opportunities here lol... just stating facts).Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #32 November 7, 2003 QuoteI dont have that choice (I'm not looking for equal opportunities here lol... just stating facts). Sure you do! Male escorts make more than male strippers! QuoteThey are being forced into good fast money? No. Hmmm....they are...somewhat. When they have bill collectors calling constantly, debt to pay off, kids to feed....they need money....lots of it...and quick. Their only other option to getting a lot of fast money would be to go bankrupt. So...it is somewhat "being forced."There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #33 November 7, 2003 There was a book written by a lady that put herself through Brown University by dancing. I've not read it but I remember a couple of interviews she gave and it was a well paid job that allowed her to go to school. Sometimes she hated it, sometimes she really enjoyed it. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #34 November 7, 2003 Quote Those days are gone? Really? Why do so many women feel like they don't have another choice then? I couldn't tell you for sure why they feel that way... but they ain't the only ones. My aunt is a nurse, has been for years... now she has kids and a small house... and is getting a little tired of nursing... She don't feel like she has another choice either. She must continue to be a nurse because she can't take the no-income time to learn and start something new. My father is a business man who would like to venture into a non-monkey-suit profession but he's got bills to pay too! He doesn't feel it feasible to do anything else. But they do! So strippin' ain't the only job out there where you'll find people saying "I can't do anything else." When I say "gone are the days of forcing women into this vocation", all I'm saying is that no MAN forces a WOMAN to strip anymore. It a chosen vocation... often chosen because it can make them fast dollars... and big dollars at that. Listen Val, we are all slaves to the dollar. You can't confuse "Slave to the dollar" with "Slave to the men"... you just can't! If I own/work at a convinience store to earn a living, I rely on that customer to come in and give me his dollars yes... I can't make my living unless that customer comes in and gives me his dollars yes... would I say that this man is in control of me? NO! Because I decided to open the store that day. I decided what I'm going to sell there and what I'm not selling... Interesting convo Val, I really like the way you state your case Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #35 November 7, 2003 QuoteSure you do! Male escorts make more than male strippers! It wouldnt be fair to the other escorts if I joined up lmao! Seriously, for good fast money, you'd need to do more then have dinner and a cocktail (the drink type) with the lady. That becomes illegal (I personnaly think prostitution should be decriminalized, but thats another debate). Same as female escorts. If you want to compare apples with apples, use thoseRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #36 November 7, 2003 Quote QuoteThey are being forced into good fast money? No. Hmmm....they are...somewhat. When they have bill collectors calling constantly, debt to pay off, kids to feed....they need money....lots of it...and quick. Their only other option to getting a lot of fast money would be to go bankrupt. So...it is somewhat "being forced." My autn has bills, debt, kids to feed... she needs money... lotsl of it... and quick. She doesn't feel this "forced" her to become a nurse though. We ALL have bills, debt, kids to feed... (well maybe not, but you get the idea... strippers aren't the only ones that need money!) Val, do you happen to know any rippers? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #37 November 7, 2003 QuoteYeah, but they think that it's all they can do....so, they're somewhat "forced" into it. As in, it's many women's last resort. Not true at all. My gf is a stripper. She likes it because she is an independent contractor. She workst the hours that she wants, when she wants. If she needs extra money, she works an extra day. If she doesn't, she takes the day off. When we first started dating, business was slow where she worked and she wasn't making squat. I jokingly said she'd make more money at McDonalds. Her response was that working there would be degrading, she doesn't consider what she does now to be. Business has picked back up at her bar and she's been pulling in $300/day for the past couple weeks working noon to 6pm. Trust me, she's glad she can work at that job instead of a "normal" job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #38 November 7, 2003 QuoteMy gf is a stripper Wasnt she an hostess a while back? Cant keep your women? lmaoRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #39 November 7, 2003 Yeah, well, when I met her she was just working the door.....but she went back to dancing again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #40 November 7, 2003 QuoteYeah, but they think that it's all they can do.... Wow, you know what all strippers think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #41 November 7, 2003 Seriously, Val. Not trying to slam you, but you seem to be the one perpetuating a stereo type of subservient women with your opinions. My gf is a stripper and I'm friends with a few of the girls she works with. They're independent business people who are glad that they have the ability to make money in a way that they find fun and easy. They're not hung up on puritanical ideas about nudity or sexuality. They consider themselves entertainers and that's what they are. They bitch about the sleazy guys who come in and try to cop a feel or whatever, but if someone tries that, they stay away from that person or have them thrown out of the club. And they frequently tell me about the guys who come in who are just lonely and give them money to sit and talk with them about their marital problems, work problems, etc....they're almost therapists to some of these guys. I think you're being overly judgmental and jumping to conclusions based on stereotypes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #42 November 7, 2003 QuoteMy autn has bills, debt, kids to feed... she needs money... lotsl of it... and quick. She doesn't feel this "forced" her to become a nurse though. I have bills, debt, kids to feed... I need money... lots of it... and quick. . I almost sorta wish I had an option to make good fast money by taking my clothes off in front of strangers... My point? I feel that it is wrong to stereotype based on sex of the person. To say that they are being 'forced' solely because they are of one sex and not of another is wrong . Both men and women face the same stressors in life. P.s. I'll be taking donations from anyone who wants to make sure that I DON'T take off my clothes ;)I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #43 November 7, 2003 QuoteP.s. I'll be taking donations from anyone who wants to make sure that I DON'T take off my clothes ;) Quick...what's your paypal account???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #44 November 7, 2003 QuoteUmm...I don't see how it's empowering Let's have the you and BKdice do a strip tease for me, you can have all the power you want!!!!!!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #45 November 7, 2003 QuoteVal, do you happen to know any rippers? Yeah, I knew a few from college. QuoteListen Val, we are all slaves to the dollar. I really don't consider myself to be. If I was, I could easily be making much more money right now. I picked my job becuase I like analytical "stuff," and I'm halfway decent at it. Yes, I did math "stuff" for fun during my spare time. I actually went to professor's office hours to find out the weirdo difficult math stuff they were doing! (Which made me realize I some of the math stuff I could never hack it in!) I found a job that involves a lot of analyzing. If I was a slave to the dollar, I would've stuck with engineering. But, I didn't like the EE labs I was in, so I quit. QuoteBetween this and the "love at first sight" thread, i'd bet you and I could talk in person for hours! It's what I'm good at! QuoteNot true at all. I wasn't saying it was every stripper's last resort, but it is for many. I don't think anyone can deny that. QuoteWow, you know what all strippers think? Ack! You guys aren't actually reading what I'm writing! I'm not saying all! I was saying some! Sheesh! Quoteyou seem to be the one perpetuating a stereo type of subservient women with your opinions. I don't think I'm "perpetuating" anything. I haven't really said anything that wasn't fact. Most strippers would not give a 70 yr old man a lap dance for free. Many do it as a last resort. That, to me, does not show power or control. A person in that situation is being controlled. QuoteThey consider themselves entertainers and that's what they are. Once again, I could buy that if they would do everything they do in a club for free. QuoteTo say that they are being 'forced' solely because they are of one sex and not of another is wrong . No, I knew a guy that was "forced" into being a stripper as well. Actually, it sounded like the women he met were worse than any guy that's ever been in a strip club. But, they were all talking about females, so I stuck with that.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lummy 4 #46 November 7, 2003 tychob or g_lum@yahoo.com quickly people!! The shirts coming off... OOOO..... soft Belly... yummmm ;) I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #47 November 7, 2003 Quote***I almost sorta wish I had an option to make good fast money by taking my clothes off in front of strangers...reply] NO!,, Bad Lummy. People, donate, quickly. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lummy 4 #48 November 7, 2003 STOP making me LAUGH!!! I'm busy looking for the words to the Divinyl's "Touch myself"I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #49 November 7, 2003 I will tell ya one thing Val. I think I speak for most guys when I say this. Strripers are in power! As males the only power we have is the power to get to the club. Once the boobies start flyin' we lose all control and power. The only power we have at that point is the power to breath for ourselves. Something about a hot naked lady that takes away all of our powers!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #50 November 7, 2003 QuoteThe only power we have at that point is the power to breath for ourselves. Okay...so, how about this...neither have power! Does that work for everyone?There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Vallerina 2 #45 November 7, 2003 QuoteVal, do you happen to know any rippers? Yeah, I knew a few from college. QuoteListen Val, we are all slaves to the dollar. I really don't consider myself to be. If I was, I could easily be making much more money right now. I picked my job becuase I like analytical "stuff," and I'm halfway decent at it. Yes, I did math "stuff" for fun during my spare time. I actually went to professor's office hours to find out the weirdo difficult math stuff they were doing! (Which made me realize I some of the math stuff I could never hack it in!) I found a job that involves a lot of analyzing. If I was a slave to the dollar, I would've stuck with engineering. But, I didn't like the EE labs I was in, so I quit. QuoteBetween this and the "love at first sight" thread, i'd bet you and I could talk in person for hours! It's what I'm good at! QuoteNot true at all. I wasn't saying it was every stripper's last resort, but it is for many. I don't think anyone can deny that. QuoteWow, you know what all strippers think? Ack! You guys aren't actually reading what I'm writing! I'm not saying all! I was saying some! Sheesh! Quoteyou seem to be the one perpetuating a stereo type of subservient women with your opinions. I don't think I'm "perpetuating" anything. I haven't really said anything that wasn't fact. Most strippers would not give a 70 yr old man a lap dance for free. Many do it as a last resort. That, to me, does not show power or control. A person in that situation is being controlled. QuoteThey consider themselves entertainers and that's what they are. Once again, I could buy that if they would do everything they do in a club for free. QuoteTo say that they are being 'forced' solely because they are of one sex and not of another is wrong . No, I knew a guy that was "forced" into being a stripper as well. Actually, it sounded like the women he met were worse than any guy that's ever been in a strip club. But, they were all talking about females, so I stuck with that.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #46 November 7, 2003 tychob or g_lum@yahoo.com quickly people!! The shirts coming off... OOOO..... soft Belly... yummmm ;) I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #47 November 7, 2003 Quote***I almost sorta wish I had an option to make good fast money by taking my clothes off in front of strangers...reply] NO!,, Bad Lummy. People, donate, quickly. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lummy 4 #48 November 7, 2003 STOP making me LAUGH!!! I'm busy looking for the words to the Divinyl's "Touch myself"I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #49 November 7, 2003 I will tell ya one thing Val. I think I speak for most guys when I say this. Strripers are in power! As males the only power we have is the power to get to the club. Once the boobies start flyin' we lose all control and power. The only power we have at that point is the power to breath for ourselves. Something about a hot naked lady that takes away all of our powers!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #50 November 7, 2003 QuoteThe only power we have at that point is the power to breath for ourselves. Okay...so, how about this...neither have power! Does that work for everyone?There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
lummy 4 #48 November 7, 2003 STOP making me LAUGH!!! I'm busy looking for the words to the Divinyl's "Touch myself"I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #49 November 7, 2003 I will tell ya one thing Val. I think I speak for most guys when I say this. Strripers are in power! As males the only power we have is the power to get to the club. Once the boobies start flyin' we lose all control and power. The only power we have at that point is the power to breath for ourselves. Something about a hot naked lady that takes away all of our powers!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #50 November 7, 2003 QuoteThe only power we have at that point is the power to breath for ourselves. Okay...so, how about this...neither have power! Does that work for everyone?There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
