northcave 0 #1 December 7, 2007 Just wondering if there is a maximum time that anyone would leave their main packed up for? I havent been jumping for about 4 weeks and my rig is still packed up from last time. Would anyone here re-pack their main if left for a certain amount of time or does it not matter? Tim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #2 December 7, 2007 Doesn't your BPA have rules for this? Most countries have something to say about repacking a main, usually it's the same length of time as the reserve I think, so 4months-6months. 4 weeks is nothing Unless it's been wet (shouldn't have been packed unless jumped again right away) or you need to practice packing LOL ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #3 December 7, 2007 Oh BTW you list a PD150 reserve which does not exist ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #4 December 7, 2007 As far as I know 4 weeks shouldn't be a problem. Should be a nice snively opening Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeepDiver 0 #5 December 7, 2007 Jump it and see what happens. Let us know when you do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
northcave 0 #6 December 7, 2007 Quote Oh BTW you list a PD150 reserve which does not exist urr well thats what my kit log says. Its due for a repack in jan so i'll check it out. Havent seen it yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #7 December 7, 2007 Either PDR143 or PDR160.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #8 December 7, 2007 Quote I havent been jumping for about 4 weeks and my rig is still packed up from last time. Would anyone here re-pack their main if left for a certain amount of time or does it not matter? Yes, I do. If I feel any doubt and have time I repack my main. Its not because any regulations its just because of me. I love to feel,touch and pack my canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tombuch 0 #9 December 7, 2007 It should be fine after four weeks. In the United States a main must be repacked every 120 days, the same as a reserve. If you are really geeky, you can read the specific regulation at 105.43(a). Your country may have a different regulation. As a general rule, a parachute will pack and then settle just a bit. Most of that settlement occurs over the first few hours to days. From there it remains pretty much stable in the container, and opening performance doesn't change much as long as the rig is well maintained. If it sits in a car trunk in the bright sun there may be problems, but generally, once a rig is packed it remains fine to jump for at least a little while beyond conventional mandated packing cycles. I don't have quick access to the data about packing changes over time, but I know somebody else here might be able to post it. The main reason the United States has a 120 day repack cycle, and other countries have repack cycles, is to allow for inspection, an increasingly important point with more rigs equipped with AADs that have batteries. For that reason, inspection, I'd strongly encourage you to follow manufacturers and regulatory guidance about repack cycles. So, you should be fine jumping your main four weeks after it was packed. If you want to repack it, go ahead, but don't feel obligated.Tom Buchanan Instructor Emeritus Comm Pilot MSEL,G Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #10 December 7, 2007 Quote As far as I know 4 weeks shouldn't be a problem. Should be a nice snively opening After 4 weeks? Why? Left mine for ~4 months once. Longest 4 months of my lifeDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #11 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote As far as I know 4 weeks shouldn't be a problem. Should be a nice snively opening After 4 weeks? Why? Left mine for ~4 months once. Longest 4 months of my life Was just thinking that after 4 weeks all of the air is out of it. Should open nice and slow.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
in2jumping 0 #12 December 7, 2007 4 weeks that is it? A friend of mine quit jumping in 1998 and his Sabre 150 has now been packed for almost 10 years Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #13 December 7, 2007 If ya feel uncomfortable, re-pack it, at only 25 jumps you could use the practice. Before you repaci it though, jump it, it'll work...Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #14 December 7, 2007 If it went more than 5 years I'd definitely repack it! Every 120 days is probably a good rule of thumb if you want to be careful. George G did some tests a while back where he packed up reserves, let them sit for X years on a shelf, then test jumped them. Last I heard he was up to 6 years; no problems other than a slightly longer opening time. Rubber bands deteriorate with time. Might want to check them. Also, if the rig was stored in a hot or damp area, best check it more frequently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #15 December 8, 2007 QuoteIf it went more than 5 years I'd definitely repack it! Every 120 days is probably a good rule of thumb if you want to be careful. George G did some tests a while back where he packed up reserves, let them sit for X years on a shelf, then test jumped them. Last I heard he was up to 6 years; no problems other than a slightly longer opening time. Rubber bands deteriorate with time. Might want to check them. Also, if the rig was stored in a hot or damp area, best check it more frequently. For the heck of it....back in the late 70's we jumped some static line T-10's that had been packed for close to 20 years and they all worked. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #16 December 8, 2007 I often repack the PC before I repack the main. I like that ZP PC not to have taken much of a set. Get the rest out of the bag and I'm good to go. IF it's out of your control I'd be more cautious. But shoot, 4 weeks is a weather hold! I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #17 December 8, 2007 Quote For the heck of it....back in the late 70's we jumped some static line T-10's that had been packed for close to 20 years and they all worked. I had a reserve ride on a borrowed rig back in the 80's and afterwards we discovered it had not been repacked in over 4 years. (I think it was a 22 ft. sac) Some people say that the material is different now...Well hell yeah it is different, It's better! I honestly don't think parachutes know how long they have been packed if they are stored properly. Time alone is not a factor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #18 December 8, 2007 Hi northcave, Quote Its due for a repack in jan so i'll check it out. Why wait? Email your serial number to PD & they will tell what you have. Then you can 'inform' whoever packed it/filled in the data card. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #19 December 8, 2007 Quote Quote Quote As far as I know 4 weeks shouldn't be a problem. Should be a nice snively opening After 4 weeks? Why? Left mine for ~4 months once. Longest 4 months of my life Was just thinking that after 4 weeks all of the air is out of it. Should open nice and slow. Never noticed any difference at all after that length of time.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilchief 1 #20 December 8, 2007 How many jumps does it have? If it's new (under 100 jumps) I personally never let it stay more than 1 month packed. I repack it every month. My brand new samurai was packed for 1,5 month, and when I took it out it was all sticky and kept almost the form of the bag =( If your'e in doubt..repack it and inspect the rubber bands and linestows. It takes 20 min... Personally I think it's worth it. =)"Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you long to return." - Da Vinci www.lilchief.no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #21 December 9, 2007 I repack every month just for practise. As BillVon says there have been tests where mains packed for years opened just fine. If it does however concern you then it really isn't that much trouble to repack before jumping. -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #22 December 9, 2007 >My brand new samurai was packed for 1,5 month, and when I took it out it >was all sticky and kept almost the form of the bag =( Right, but who cares? The important thing is that it opens - and taking a bit of a set won't keep it from opening. About the only argument I've seen is that the material can start to adhere after a long period of hot storage (like the red cordura on some 2002 Javelins) - but I have never seen this be an issue on canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites