mailin 0 #1 October 3, 2003 Hi all, I'm starting my AFF training today! I'm so excited!! but... upon waking up today, it was 38 degrees outside! Cold! I know it will warm up today, but I'm not doing my jump until 5:30 - when the sun will be preparing to go down. I'm still going to go - becuase I need to get in 4 jumps before I call it quits until spring - then I don't have to re-do any of the tandems next year (tandem progression program). But for reference when planning these next jumps - when is it too cold? JenniferArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayruss 0 #2 October 3, 2003 frost bite is a good time to stop jumping, I only lost the feeling in my fingers for about a week once __________________________________________________ "Beware how you take away hope from another human being." -Oliver Wendell Holmes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #3 October 3, 2003 ..when it takes more than an hour to chip the ice off the plane, or to dig it out of the snowdrift, or find the snowdrift it's under. "Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #4 October 3, 2003 When my "outie" attempts to become an "innie", through "normal" layers of clothing, it's time to think about jumping a bit further south.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bendywendy 0 #5 October 3, 2003 It's never too cold until you become a licensed skydiver and you start going to warmer places and you realize, hey I don't have to have frozen snot on your face, cracked lips and fingers, and all this pain. Then you start traveling or move, jump like crazy for a few years get completely spoiled and get to the point where you walk outside in your tank and shorts and say..."hmmm... I don't know, I'd probably have to put on a longsleeve shirt to jump today - I'll wait until noon and give it some time to warm up or wait until tomorrow - yeah, it's going to be in the 90's tomorrow.." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ypelchat 0 #6 October 3, 2003 QuoteHi all, I'm starting my AFF training today! I'm so excited!! but... upon waking up today, it was 38 degrees outside! Cold! I know it will warm up today, but I'm not doing my jump until 5:30 - when the sun will be preparing to go down. I'm still going to go - becuase I need to get in 4 jumps before I call it quits until spring - then I don't have to re-do any of the tandems next year (tandem progression program). But for reference when planning these next jumps - when is it too cold? Jennifer It's never too cold to jump! In Canada, we do winter jumps, and have a lot of fun doing them. We dress accordingly though. Yves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #7 October 3, 2003 when the amount of clothes you wear to keep from becoming chryogenic prohibits you from being able to pull. Unless you have a cypress....I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #8 October 3, 2003 hahaha! Ok, I'll take a hint. Guess I have to experience it for myself! Thanks all JenniferArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #9 October 3, 2003 It's too cold to jump when: If you are a man, and look down and you notice you have 2 belly buttons. If you are a woman, your nipples can pierce a 2 inches thick sweater. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff 0 #10 October 3, 2003 When Hell freezes over! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katiebear21 0 #11 October 3, 2003 Between the jumpsuit and all the "layers" you can put under it jumping when it's cold isn't too bad. The worst part is always my hands. Tip: use surgical latex gloves under your regular sport gloves. Just remember not to put them on until you're about at altitude otherwise your hands will get too sweaty! Katie Get your PMS glass necklace here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #12 October 3, 2003 ooh - good idea! Thanks for the tip! JenniferArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpinjackflash 0 #13 October 3, 2003 Now that's an fabulous idea.... Thanks, will have to try the surgical gloves. So cool. Also, I'm sure that a full face mask helmet helps as well. I have one on my wish list, just have to pony up my jump money for it. ICK! Translated, it doesn't really get to cold to jump. jjfIt's a gas, gas, gas... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #14 October 3, 2003 QuoteUnless you have a cypress.... you laugh. I was visiting an unnamed DZ and a guy had a cypres fire. His answer to the S&TA was that it was too cold to pull. AYE! Quoteuse surgical latex gloves under your regular sport gloves. Just remember not to put them on until you're about at altitude otherwise your hands will get too sweaty and make sure they aren't the powdered ones. __ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katiebear21 0 #15 October 3, 2003 QuoteAlso, I'm sure that a full face mask helmet helps as well. I have one on my wish list, just have to pony up my jump money for it. ICK! There's always a workaround for that too! Got a gear shop at your dz? Well, they probably have demo's! Katie Get your PMS glass necklace here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #16 October 3, 2003 Look for a decent headover, balaclava that is reasonably windproof. I got mine from Eastern Mountain Sports for $15 and that's all I need for Massachusetts. Cheaper than a full face but I'm looking to upgrade as well. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #17 October 3, 2003 It's never too cold, and don't listen to those weather wimps. Warm is nice, but if you are a real die-hard, you will jump in the cold as well There are some extra safety concerns with the extra layers and gloves you need to wear. If you do not dress properly the pain in your hands will be intense. I have jumped every month of the year in Chicago and tend to jump all year with gloves on so that aspect never changes. The coldest jump I have been on was about -30F at altitude...another poster, Kallend, was on that load with me. Once the ambient temperature drops below -10F your body can no longer sense a temperature drop._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #18 October 3, 2003 We had one in Orange, MA a couple of years ago at Thanksgiving where I believe it was around -20F on exit. Add in the windchill and it was seriously cold on the way down. I think I had a touch of frostbite on my nose as I could only smell something burning for the whole week afterwards. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #19 October 3, 2003 it's too cold when the plane is stuck to the ground because of the ice. happened to the goteborg (gothenburg) club 2 or 3 years ago for their new year's eve jump session they deiced the plane, but the wheels were frozen... ---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #20 October 3, 2003 QuoteTip: use surgical latex gloves under your regular sport gloves. Just remember not to put them on until you're about at altitude otherwise your hands will get too sweaty! And when that happens, then you exit....the sweat freezes and you end up colder than if you didn't have any gloves on....plus ice forms on your hands...been there, done that.....had some frostbite to prove it! Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #21 October 3, 2003 QuoteIt's never too cold, and don't listen to those weather wimps. Warm is nice, but if you are a real die-hard, you will jump in the cold as well You say die-hard. Us cold weenies say insane. I'm with Wendy. If it gets below about 65 on the ground I'm not jumping. I got enough of being cold in freefall doing tandems. I just don't need to jump that bad anymore... Mailin, you should be fine - the adrenaline will overcome a lot of the cold. Just bring your least bulky warm clothes and gloves. More than likely your instructor will have been up a few times before your jump and will be able to tell you how many layers you're going to need up there. Have fun!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Aviatrr 0 #22 October 3, 2003 I'm one of those schmucks that used to jump all winter up in Ohio. Last week I got cold when the door was opened at altitude and I was sitting all the way at the back(behind the door, with the air hitting me) waiting for everybody else to exit. The temp at altitude was like 45 degrees... I don't think I'll be jumping anywhere north of Florida in the winter....well, except Eloy this year....but I'll be wearing many, many, many layers to keep warm! Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflygoddess 0 #23 October 3, 2003 38?!! Wow and I thought that I was freezing at night here.... it is actually dropping down into the upper 70s at night here, but still a nice warm 110 during the day. Yep gotta love Arizona. You should move out here then you can jump every day, just about, sometimes there is a cloud cover teasing everyone that it is going to rain, but the only time it rains is when the cloud moves in and out within five min. I do have to say that last Febuary here was a bit nipplely at alti. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites WrongWay 0 #24 October 3, 2003 NEVER!!! I've seen guys jump in snow, and I've jumped in thick frost. Just wear long johns, lots of layers, gloves, and something over your neck. It'll be cold, but damn, it's worth it, and snow is so pretty under canopy!!! Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChasingBlueSky 0 #25 October 3, 2003 QuoteQuoteIt's never too cold, and don't listen to those weather wimps. Warm is nice, but if you are a real die-hard, you will jump in the cold as well You say die-hard. Us cold weenies say insane. I'm with Wendy. If it gets below about 65 on the ground I'm not jumping. I got enough of being cold in freefall doing tandems. I just don't need to jump that bad anymore... Mailin, you should be fine - the adrenaline will overcome a lot of the cold. Just bring your least bulky warm clothes and gloves. More than likely your instructor will have been up a few times before your jump and will be able to tell you how many layers you're going to need up there. Have fun!! I've learned how to safely jump in the cold - I've found the best thermal wear at Eddie Baurer - the material pulls the moisture from your body and is warmer than anything I have ever used before. Pay attention to what skiers use - they have plenty of options that are thin, warm, and not too bulky to jump in. If you can't find a solution for the gloves that will allow you to feel your handles, use your toggles and keep your hands warm, then don't jump. OH yea, the cold is much worse for smokers. I've found that most people that say they won't jump if the temp is below 65F are smokers - it effects the blood flow to your fingers and makes it feel colder than it really is. Yet another reason to quit smoking (smokers have a harder time with hypoxia as well)._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Aviatrr 0 #22 October 3, 2003 I'm one of those schmucks that used to jump all winter up in Ohio. Last week I got cold when the door was opened at altitude and I was sitting all the way at the back(behind the door, with the air hitting me) waiting for everybody else to exit. The temp at altitude was like 45 degrees... I don't think I'll be jumping anywhere north of Florida in the winter....well, except Eloy this year....but I'll be wearing many, many, many layers to keep warm! Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflygoddess 0 #23 October 3, 2003 38?!! Wow and I thought that I was freezing at night here.... it is actually dropping down into the upper 70s at night here, but still a nice warm 110 during the day. Yep gotta love Arizona. You should move out here then you can jump every day, just about, sometimes there is a cloud cover teasing everyone that it is going to rain, but the only time it rains is when the cloud moves in and out within five min. I do have to say that last Febuary here was a bit nipplely at alti. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #24 October 3, 2003 NEVER!!! I've seen guys jump in snow, and I've jumped in thick frost. Just wear long johns, lots of layers, gloves, and something over your neck. It'll be cold, but damn, it's worth it, and snow is so pretty under canopy!!! Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #25 October 3, 2003 QuoteQuoteIt's never too cold, and don't listen to those weather wimps. Warm is nice, but if you are a real die-hard, you will jump in the cold as well You say die-hard. Us cold weenies say insane. I'm with Wendy. If it gets below about 65 on the ground I'm not jumping. I got enough of being cold in freefall doing tandems. I just don't need to jump that bad anymore... Mailin, you should be fine - the adrenaline will overcome a lot of the cold. Just bring your least bulky warm clothes and gloves. More than likely your instructor will have been up a few times before your jump and will be able to tell you how many layers you're going to need up there. Have fun!! I've learned how to safely jump in the cold - I've found the best thermal wear at Eddie Baurer - the material pulls the moisture from your body and is warmer than anything I have ever used before. Pay attention to what skiers use - they have plenty of options that are thin, warm, and not too bulky to jump in. If you can't find a solution for the gloves that will allow you to feel your handles, use your toggles and keep your hands warm, then don't jump. OH yea, the cold is much worse for smokers. I've found that most people that say they won't jump if the temp is below 65F are smokers - it effects the blood flow to your fingers and makes it feel colder than it really is. Yet another reason to quit smoking (smokers have a harder time with hypoxia as well)._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
