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[As I mentioned earlier, you do get to line stretch quicker but it does not cause faster or harder openings.
another new convert here!
I switched to semi-stowless on my wingsuit rig (Vampire3+safire129) some 40-50 jumps ago. The openings are better. Not dramatically better (were OK before as well), but more on heading and feels more controlled.
In fact, I ordered another one for my swooping rig (Velo90). Again, not that I expect huge improvement over something that works ok already - but the design idea in general makes a lot of sense to me. ...that, and some spare cash burning a hole in my pocket

I do know he tried completely stowless. Using more tuck tabs and finger tabs.
It worked but it needed more care during the line stow process.
Something that is not good for a lot of the jumpers out there.
Do you know if they ever tested a safety stow (like the one on a reserve freebag) instead of the two locking stows?
I would think they would've chosen the rubber bands over the safety stows because rubber bands are freaking everywhere, you don't have to special order them, or find a rigger to make them.
DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890
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Do you find using this bag any quicker or easier for packing?
Do you know if this bag can be incorporated into the Aerodyne setup? Also UPT is currently closed for the holiday so does anyone know how much it would be to order and also if my chute is a Pilot188 what size bag would I be looking for?
Any and all comments regarding this bag are welcome.
Thanks!
S.
Do you find using this bag any quicker or easier for packing?
It is quicker only for stowing the lines. Everything else about your pack job will not be effected. (Except replacing all the broken rubber bands as there are only 2 on most designs)
Do you know if this bag can be incorporated into the Aerodyne setup?
I would think it's probably going to be a V350 bag, however I suggest calling UPT and talking to them with your current container information (Icon I? size) and they will help you out with getting the right one. There should be no issues using this bag in your container.
Also UPT is currently closed for the holiday so does anyone know how much it would be to order and also if my chute is a Pilot188 what size bag would I be looking for?
To order it, I believe is $120 (plus tax and shipping)
DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890
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Thanks!
S.
Call UPT and speak with Mike Maguire. He was able to hook me up with the correct size bag and I am very pleased with it.
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...it lets me down.
what is the problem with a conventional d bag?
None, per se. I just like the simplicity of the semi stowless. For me, I get quicker cleaner openings with one and its simpler to pack.
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quicker and cleaner?...no it is just different thats all. does PD or NZ aerosports endorse? UPT does not count - they sell them.
I didn't say YOUR openings were quicker and cleaner. I said MY openings were quicker and cleaner. But yes, I do agree with you that they are different.
Have you felt any difference in whether the opening was harder or softer? Or has it been the same?
As I mentioned earlier, you do get to line stretch quicker but it does not cause faster or harder openings. The openings are controlled by the slider and the packing (and canopy design).
If a person gets a hard opening it's usually because the slider was not well controlled during the packing and bagging process. There can be other factors but it's almost always the slider.
The semi-stowless bag does not affect the hardness or softness of the openings. It only affects the speed to line stretch which I like. It also allows the lines to play out in a more orderly fashion.
We must remember, we only use rubber bands to keep the lines in place until they are needed and then to allow them to play out in a relatively orderly fashion in what is otherwise a fairly chaotic couple of seconds. But those bands can and do create other issues as I mentioned above.
The semi-stowless bag does exactly the same thing but simply allows the lines to play out more consistenly.