Muenkel 0 #51 September 16, 2003 It amazes me that a bunch of mortals who have never died or had a judgement day know without a doubt what the truth is. And Bill, Yes, some people have SEEN God. Some you may not even know about, including some dz.commers. Since you were raised a Catholic, you were taught that Jesus Christ was in fact God and walked amongst the masses. Oh, I forgot, you bailed on the religion that you were born into. Maybe, you couldn't handle the rules that were expected of you and you took the easy way out. This is just assumption on my part...I could be wrong. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carth 0 #52 September 16, 2003 ooo bible contracdicions! those are always fun! here are some more.... Exodus 20:15 "Thou shalt not steal." Leviticus 19:13 "Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbor, neither rob him." vs Exodus 3:22 "And ye shall spoil the Egyptians." Exodus 12:35-36 "And they spoiled [plundered, NRSV] the Egyptians." Luke 19:29-34 "[Jesus] sent two of his disciples, Saying, Go ye into the village . . . ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither. And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him. . . . And as they were loosing the colt, the owners thereof said unto them, Why loose ye the colt? And they said, The Lord hath need of him." Psalm 145:9 "The Lord is good to all." Deuteronomy 32:4 "a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he." vs. Isaiah 45:7 "I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things." See "Out of Context" for more on Isaiah 45:7. Lamentations 3:38 "Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?" Jeremiah 18:11 "Thus saith the Lord; Behold, I frame evil against you, and devise a device against you." Ezekiel 20:25,26 "I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live. And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the Lord." II Kings 8:26 "Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign." vs. II Chronicles 22:2 "Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign." One could still argue that the bible is gods word recorded by man and because of that flawed but if you claim that you are freely admiting your belife system is based on a flawed book.... 4 years catholic highschool 3 years of western religions in college and still going. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #53 September 16, 2003 QuoteFour years of catholic high school will do that to you. I went to a catholic private school for 13 years, and I cant! lmao... guess relegion didnt make that big an impression on me! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,058 #54 September 16, 2003 >Since you were raised a Catholic, you were taught that Jesus Christ >was in fact God and walked amongst the masses. As I recall there are three parts to the trinity - god, Jesus and the holy ghost. They are three separate beings. From the Nicene Creed, said every week in catholic churches: "We believe in one God, the Father Almighty . . . And in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God. . . And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life . . ." >Oh, I forgot, you bailed on the religion that you were born into. > Maybe, you couldn't handle the rules that were expected of you and > you took the easy way out. Didn't bail on the religion, just the teachers - the brothers and priests who assaulted and molested guys at my high school. That's not really 'doing the work of Christ' in my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #55 September 16, 2003 QuoteOh, I forgot, you bailed on the religion that you were born into. What's the value of sticking with the religion you were "born into"? Since there are a zillion religions and most of them have as a basic tenent that the others are flat out WRONG, most everyone is fucked. The religion you were born into is, by simple numbering, probably fatal to your soul. In other words, abandoning whatever religion you were born into is a great policy. Don't let random chance dictate the fate of your soul... go religion shopping! First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #56 September 16, 2003 Same here.....13 years of catholic school and I can't quote the bible. I think it's better viewed as a guide than hard and fast rules/laws. Too many get caught up in the letter instead of the spirit in which it was written. Just my opinion. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #57 September 16, 2003 Quotea guide I'll take the Michelin and the Debeure anytimeRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #58 September 17, 2003 QuoteIt amazes me that a bunch of mortals who have never died or had a judgement day know without a doubt what the truth is. I agree. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But people can only tell me that mine isn't valid once they have died, been judged, and come back to tell me about it. I'll take my chances with my disbelief. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kris 0 #59 September 17, 2003 QuoteI agree. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But people can only tell me that mine isn't valid once they have died, been judged, and come back to tell me about it. I'll take my chances with my disbelief. And I'll take mine with Einstein, Schrödinger, and Hawking. BTW, did anyone else think that maybe the founder of God Hates America possibly just has a really bad case of Tourette's?Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,515 #60 September 17, 2003 Quote It amazes me that a bunch of mortals who have never died or had a judgement day know without a doubt what the truth is. I find it to be just as amazing, only about people from different religions, many of whom have the one true answer, or one true interpretation. So much of the "I know what God really wants" is supremely arrogant. If we could really know exactly what the obscure and contradictory wording meant, then God would lose mystery, and we would become as powerful as God. And then who is God? Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pds 0 #61 September 17, 2003 me?namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChasingBlueSky 0 #62 September 17, 2003 Quote>Now I know billvon knows everything , he can even quote the bible Four years of catholic high school will do that to you. Try eight years of catholic grade school, and eight years in the seminary (do you have any idea the amount of theology classes I have been thru?)! Ya beat me to it Bill! Usually the Catholic Church embraces the duality of its teachings and tries to pass it on to the congregation as the point where your faith kicks in. Such as, Angry/Vengeful God in the Old Testament or Forgiving God in the New Testament - which is it? Actually, BOTH! huh? Don't worry about it, your faith will figure it out. Or even - the duality of Jesus - was he a man with the ability to sin and open to temptation, or born without Sin and the Son of God, or was he actually God? Hmmm........ What people tend to forget is you can still have faith but not have to stick to the belief that an institution teaches you._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 3 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Kris 0 #59 September 17, 2003 QuoteI agree. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But people can only tell me that mine isn't valid once they have died, been judged, and come back to tell me about it. I'll take my chances with my disbelief. And I'll take mine with Einstein, Schrödinger, and Hawking. BTW, did anyone else think that maybe the founder of God Hates America possibly just has a really bad case of Tourette's?Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,515 #60 September 17, 2003 Quote It amazes me that a bunch of mortals who have never died or had a judgement day know without a doubt what the truth is. I find it to be just as amazing, only about people from different religions, many of whom have the one true answer, or one true interpretation. So much of the "I know what God really wants" is supremely arrogant. If we could really know exactly what the obscure and contradictory wording meant, then God would lose mystery, and we would become as powerful as God. And then who is God? Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #61 September 17, 2003 me?namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #62 September 17, 2003 Quote>Now I know billvon knows everything , he can even quote the bible Four years of catholic high school will do that to you. Try eight years of catholic grade school, and eight years in the seminary (do you have any idea the amount of theology classes I have been thru?)! Ya beat me to it Bill! Usually the Catholic Church embraces the duality of its teachings and tries to pass it on to the congregation as the point where your faith kicks in. Such as, Angry/Vengeful God in the Old Testament or Forgiving God in the New Testament - which is it? Actually, BOTH! huh? Don't worry about it, your faith will figure it out. Or even - the duality of Jesus - was he a man with the ability to sin and open to temptation, or born without Sin and the Son of God, or was he actually God? Hmmm........ What people tend to forget is you can still have faith but not have to stick to the belief that an institution teaches you._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
