airann 1 #1 August 27, 2003 First of all... DO NOT LOOK AT THIS IF YOU ARE AN AMIMAL LOVER, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE LARGE BREED DOGS. Apparently Great Danes are on the top of the list, Mastiff, labs, dalmations and etc... I got this off the Great Dane forum. There was a warning and it told me how to skip the pictures and get straight to the petition. I personally had to skip the photos and went straight to the bottom and clicked INDEX. Then, I skipped everthing on that page except PETITION - Again, I did not read or see anything other than the petition. I just could not. I did not even let it load. I know this is normal in foreign counties, but cant I send 80 cents a day to stop this.? Horrible Thank you many times, Skeet, FleaFlyer, Olav, Ginger, Radar, and Rocket ~AirAnn~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Layton 0 #2 August 27, 2003 i signed the petition i have 4 cats and 3 dogs.and that will NEVER happen to my babies.***if you are going to be stupid you better be tough Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #3 August 27, 2003 Leave China alone. That is their way. It is none of our business. If we had to feed a gazillion billion people, we would eat dogs too. Different cultures, different ways. Let it be. Dogs are meat to them. Cows are sacred to other cultures, but you don't see them sticking their noses in our business.... __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #4 August 27, 2003 I signed the petition. The thumbnail pix are pretty sick, I wouldn't dare click for the full view. Read the article, too, and I think it is ok to read. Pretty sick to do this to dogs! :( I love my baby and have had large dogs in the past and just can't see how anyone can kill a dog. Sad. Angela. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airann 1 #5 August 27, 2003 Thank you for your input. I respect your perspective. I dont know anything about China, I feel like they have limited space and a large population. I can not fault that. Anyway, I didnt mention China. Nor did I read anything but sign the petition. You can certainly have your vocal opinion in anyway shape or form. It is very clear that I have offened you and I understand that. ~AirAnn~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #6 August 27, 2003 QuoteLeave China alone. That is their way. It is none of our business. If we had to feed a gazillion billion people, we would eat dogs too. Different cultures, different ways. Let it be. Dogs are meat to them. Cows are sacred to other cultures, but you don't see them sticking their noses in our business.... i have to agree with you, and i am a dog lover. Yes its personally disgusting but this is none of our buisness.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #7 August 27, 2003 I can understand that side of it, but dogs and cows just aren't the same. I guess i'm biased cuz i've never owned a cow, but dogs are almost people to me. Can't they breed some farm animal? I mean, it's like eating a dolphin or something. Angela. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #8 August 27, 2003 QuoteI know this is normal in foreign counties, but cant I send 80 cents a day to stop this.? To be fair, how would you feel if someone from a foreign country sent his 80 cents here to stop you eating meat arguing that cows are 'sacred'? (or any other thing). If that happens in a foreign country and it's their custom, it's very little a petition can do, I'd say, save your money.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #9 August 27, 2003 Quotebut dogs and cows just aren't the same. I Yes they absolutely are. The major difference, cows don't have cute fluffy tails, otherwise they're just meat. Yummy yummy meat. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #10 August 27, 2003 I doubt a cow would give an excited greet when you arrive home. But, whatever. Angela. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #11 August 27, 2003 QuoteI doubt a cow would give an excited greet when you arrive home. You should ask Stacy about that, she's an expert in the ways of cow. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #12 August 27, 2003 Regardless of whether or not you mentioned China in the post, you are condeming them for trying to feed their people when you sign that petition. I love dogs. FYI. Great animal companions. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airann 1 #13 August 27, 2003 QuoteTo be fair, how would you feel if someone from a foreign country sent his 80 cents here to stop you eating meat arguing that cows are 'sacred'? Ivan- To be honest with you and those who read this, I dont know the answer to that, as I never thought about it. Again, I appreciate your perspective. Now that I am thinking about it, I would respect the sacred idea of the cow or anyones beliefs no matter what they are. To answer your question as best I can, I would return the 80 cents and a note of thanks and likely eat a vegetarian diet. Which I dont think is a bad idea. ~AirAnn~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VisionAir 0 #14 August 27, 2003 Ever wonder why the dogs and cats seem to disappear around the neighborhood of your local chinese restaurant?.....You may have tried either and not know it....Tastes like chicken right? FYI, I've had cats and dogs...love them both. It's ok to luv your pets....just don't LUUUUUV your pets. Huh?!? What cloud?!? Oh that!!! That's just Industrial Haze Alex M. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #15 August 27, 2003 I have eaten a LOT of meat that americans would consider very distasteful, but let me tell you, the rest of the world simply does not think the same way we do. Not when it comes to what counts as "food" nor what counts as "moral, legal, or acceptable". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #16 August 27, 2003 I admit that it is disgusting, but I also don't think it is any of our business. They are not affecting us by doing this and it is not a human rights violation so we should not try and impose our cultural standards on them. E-mail A.L.F. and see if they are willing to start burning down Chinese dog farms. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airann 1 #17 August 27, 2003 QuoteRegardless of whether or not you mentioned China in the post, you are condeming them for trying to feed their people when you sign that petition.*** Not all persons in China eat meat, in addition I am not personally condeming this or any country. But since I am condeming an entire country, then lets go ahead and condem the USA. That would be fair. ?? *How often an acre of U.S. trees disappears: Every 5 seconds. *At present rate of deforestation, number of years before not a single tree will remain standing in the United States: 50 Or lets pick on The orange haired dude for hypocrisy. McDonalds tells us: 75 million sold Original actor to play Ronald McDonald: Jeff Juliano Diet now followed by Jeff Juliano: Vegetarian I respect your perspective, I believe that should be a sufficient statement. I dont believe I should be so flammable for my views on the subject. Consumption of Great Danes, bothers me, ummm kay. But, Poodles are ok. The idea that there are no animals around Asian restaurants is stereotypical. So do not condem all Asian eateries. Or else flames will occur. Nah, not you. -I am just an easy target.... and EVERYONE on the entire planet hates me... Oh dear I have condemed the entire planet. According to my mother this morning, she still likes me. So, the entire planet, except one. Runaway, runaway... the I see dotcommers! Help!! persons from the Great Dane fourm.... ~AirAnn~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airann 1 #18 August 27, 2003 Skymonkey- Who was it and did she enjoy it? ~AirAnn~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #19 August 27, 2003 Quote*How often an acre of U.S. trees disappears: Every 5 seconds. *At present rate of deforestation, number of years before not a single tree will remain standing in the United States: 50 Or lets pick on The orange haired dude for hypocrisy. McDonalds tells us: 75 million sold Original actor to play Ronald McDonald: Jeff Juliano Diet now followed by Jeff Juliano: Vegetarian What's your point? Really. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #20 August 27, 2003 QuoteSkymonkey- Who was it and did she enjoy it? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! Nice one, Ann Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #21 August 27, 2003 Quote I admit that it is disgusting, I tried it.....it wasn't bad......just differen't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jfields 0 #22 August 27, 2003 Welcome to Ineffective Ethnocentricity 101. First off, internet petitions are about the most pathetic way to change policy you could imagine. Find a sturdy brick wall. Now beat your head against it. Same difference. Who gets the petition? Who has really signed it? Who really cares what a bunch of random net surfers think? Second, if they aren't messing with your dogs, it isn't really your problem. While we are each entitled to our own opinion, there is no global law that says everyone will get their way. Actually, everyone can't, because the world is filled with different opinions. That applies to both individuals and entire cultures. If you insist on trying to force your standards on people that don't agree, you have to be prepared to be on the receiving end as well. If you can actually make that mental leap to where you are willing to be subject to other people's equally valid whims, then at least try to make your point in an effective way. Be factual, convincing, and target the right people with your efforts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #23 August 27, 2003 Yeah...I mean....some people actually eat SHEEP!!!!! Oh the Horror....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites coconutmonkey 0 #24 August 27, 2003 Tastes like chicken Gotta go with SM1 on this one. We aren't the same as everyone else on this matter so appreciate where and how you live when ya look at your lil sock chewer at night.Hearts & Minds 2 to the Heart- 1 to the Mind- Home of the Coconut Lounge, Spa, & Artillery Range Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BlueEyedMonster 0 #25 August 27, 2003 What's the issue? Meat is meat. A dog life is no more important than a cow, horse, pig, chicken, or fish life. If you don't like eating dogs, Then don't eat them. If you do like eating dogs, go ahead. Sometimes people just need to stop their feel good politics and look at how flawed their logic really is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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airann 1 #18 August 27, 2003 Skymonkey- Who was it and did she enjoy it? ~AirAnn~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #19 August 27, 2003 Quote*How often an acre of U.S. trees disappears: Every 5 seconds. *At present rate of deforestation, number of years before not a single tree will remain standing in the United States: 50 Or lets pick on The orange haired dude for hypocrisy. McDonalds tells us: 75 million sold Original actor to play Ronald McDonald: Jeff Juliano Diet now followed by Jeff Juliano: Vegetarian What's your point? Really. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #20 August 27, 2003 QuoteSkymonkey- Who was it and did she enjoy it? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! Nice one, Ann Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #21 August 27, 2003 Quote I admit that it is disgusting, I tried it.....it wasn't bad......just differen't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #22 August 27, 2003 Welcome to Ineffective Ethnocentricity 101. First off, internet petitions are about the most pathetic way to change policy you could imagine. Find a sturdy brick wall. Now beat your head against it. Same difference. Who gets the petition? Who has really signed it? Who really cares what a bunch of random net surfers think? Second, if they aren't messing with your dogs, it isn't really your problem. While we are each entitled to our own opinion, there is no global law that says everyone will get their way. Actually, everyone can't, because the world is filled with different opinions. That applies to both individuals and entire cultures. If you insist on trying to force your standards on people that don't agree, you have to be prepared to be on the receiving end as well. If you can actually make that mental leap to where you are willing to be subject to other people's equally valid whims, then at least try to make your point in an effective way. Be factual, convincing, and target the right people with your efforts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #23 August 27, 2003 Yeah...I mean....some people actually eat SHEEP!!!!! Oh the Horror....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coconutmonkey 0 #24 August 27, 2003 Tastes like chicken Gotta go with SM1 on this one. We aren't the same as everyone else on this matter so appreciate where and how you live when ya look at your lil sock chewer at night.Hearts & Minds 2 to the Heart- 1 to the Mind- Home of the Coconut Lounge, Spa, & Artillery Range Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #25 August 27, 2003 What's the issue? Meat is meat. A dog life is no more important than a cow, horse, pig, chicken, or fish life. If you don't like eating dogs, Then don't eat them. If you do like eating dogs, go ahead. Sometimes people just need to stop their feel good politics and look at how flawed their logic really is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites