davevans 0 #1 August 31, 2011 Just saw this on Cookie's website and found out the G2 is now officially discontinued. Wonder why they switched from carbon fiber to ABS? http://www.cookiecomposites.com/shop/helmets/94/index.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #2 August 31, 2011 My guess would be speed (and cost) of production.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michalm21 2 #3 August 31, 2011 yeah... going for $400 with shipping? I'd have to pass Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inspired 0 #4 August 31, 2011 I wonder what their solution is to the fogging issues that the G2 had? Is it simply the new mouth pieces? I've been holding off buying a new full face waiting to see what Cookie came up with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #5 August 31, 2011 QuoteMy guess would be speed (and cost) of production. My exact guess as well. Plus if there is any impact I'm lead to believe that carbon fiber would crack under a certain pressure as apposed to ABS plastic which would dent therefore reducing/absorbing more blunt of the blow and dispersing the energy throughout the helmet. edit to add: Still can't deny the carbon fiber G2 look of the helmet though !For info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuizToninato 0 #6 September 9, 2011 If you can choose a helmet world you stick with G2 (carbon fiber with fogging issues) or G3 (ABS Plastic) without fogging issues? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #7 September 9, 2011 G3's fogging issue hasn't been proved yet, wait for the winter timeBernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trig78 0 #8 September 9, 2011 I'll just stick with my G2. I wish they just offered a non fogging visor for it. Until then I'll continue using anti fog cloth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC1 0 #9 September 9, 2011 Quote I'll just stick with my G2. I wish they just offered a non fogging visor for it. Until then I'll continue using anti fog cloth http://www.amazon.com/Fog-City-Hyper-Optiks-Inserts/dp/B001AWLWMM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1315569796&sr=8-1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danielcroft 2 #10 September 9, 2011 The other issue they had with the G2 was the visor popping open about an inch. Apparently due to a weaker spring in the locking mechanism. I haven't had any major fogging issues or a problem with the visor but I know people who have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #11 September 9, 2011 QuoteThe other issue they had with the G2 was the visor popping open about an inch. Apparently due to a weaker spring in the locking mechanism. I haven't had any major fogging issues or a problem with the visor but I know people who have. There's also been a known issue with certain visors that take on a "crackled" appearance (for lack of a better way to describe it). I've had that issue and seen others who have had it; it seems to start from the top and bottom of the visor and gradually make its way towards the center (slowly - mine never got more than a half inch from the top and hadn't started on the bottom when I got my replacement visor). Cookie acknowledges this is a known defect with certain visors and is replacing them at no cost (through their dealer network). I was happy with that resolution. I've had limited fogging issues and no issues with the locking mechanism."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danielcroft 2 #12 September 12, 2011 Oh, right, good point. I had another friend who's visor had that issue. Kirk Verner was out at my DZ for a 4 way camp this past weekend, he has a bunch of holes cut out of his G2 visor around the edges to stop the fogging on opening. I have fogging on opening too but cleared really quick and not a visibility issue for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D-Fens 0 #13 October 23, 2011 So anyone tried these helmets yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #14 October 23, 2011 We have an order of these come in out at the DZ and everyone seems to like them but said they are running just a tad smaller than the G2. I know a few people were grabbing the next size up G3 over what they would have gotten a G2 in. I would advise trying one on for fit to make sure its correct.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrmtopo 1 #15 November 18, 2011 Does anyone know the actual weight differences (if any) between the G2 & G3? For the same size of course. Curious if the ABS construction was able to match the carbon fiber in mass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #16 November 24, 2011 Good question as I'm curious as well. Anyone have a same size G2 and G3 with a oz/weed scale? lol If anyone does please weigh them without any audibles and let us know! edit to add: Oh and Happy thanksgiving everyone! Load up on that L-TryptophanFor info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie 0 #17 November 25, 2011 Weight comparison G2 750 grams 26.4oz G3 790 grams 27.8oz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrmtopo 1 #18 December 3, 2011 Thanks for the mass Cookie. The changes possibly being driven by a manufacturing costs/availability issue (since no apparent durability issues have surfaced), but I continue to have a strong preference for the carbon fiber construction of the G2. Just a little customer input. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie 0 #19 December 5, 2011 Cheers mate We welcome your feedback. The mouth area upgrade and ventilation is a key feature that could only be implemented into the G3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #20 December 8, 2011 Quote If you can choose a helmet world you stick with G2 (carbon fiber with fogging issues) or G3 (ABS Plastic) without fogging issues? I did choose and I bought a G3 For info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #21 December 8, 2011 Quote Quote If you can choose a helmet world you stick with G2 (carbon fiber with fogging issues) or G3 (ABS Plastic) without fogging issues? I did choose and I bought a G3 Me too. It's my first new helmet. Can't wait to jump it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #22 January 25, 2012 Quote G3's fogging issue hasn't been proved yet, wait for the winter time It's officially winter....anyone that has a G3 have any fogging issues during this winter season?? I would give my 2 cents and review, but fortunately its 85 and sunny where I recently just moved to and never gets below 70 ever so fogging isn't an issue For info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC1 0 #23 January 25, 2012 QuoteQuoteG3's fogging issue hasn't been proved yet, wait for the winter time It's officially winter....anyone that has a G3 have any fogging issues during this winter season?? My G3 has survived so far this winter without any noticeable fogging. I reckon it was below -20 Celsius at altitude for some of those and below freezing at ground level. I just keep the visor open until just before exit and open it again under canopy. QuoteWe have an order of these come in out at the DZ and everyone seems to like them but said they are running just a tad smaller than the G2. I know a few people were grabbing the next size up G3 over what they would have gotten a G2 in. I would advise trying one on for fit to make sure its correct. Yup. I tried a G2 for fit which was OK and ordered the same size G3, it was too small. Had to modificate the liner with a scalpel to get it to contain my oversized cranium. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #24 January 26, 2012 Quote Quote G3's fogging issue hasn't been proved yet, wait for the winter time It's officially winter....anyone that has a G3 have any fogging issues during this winter season?? I would give my 2 cents and review, but fortunately its 85 and sunny where I recently just moved to and never gets below 70 ever so fogging isn't an issue Had some fogging issues in the Eloy tunnel early in the mornings when i was there a couple of weeks back. Morning temps were 30-40 before entering the tunnelYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #25 April 30, 2012 Cookie and all other helmet manufacturer's take note! Contrary to what everyone says, now there is "FOG PROOF" and let's see this potentially implemented into the skydiving helmet realm where visors would NEVER even have a chance of fogging even without any ventilation ! http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/glare-dust-and-fog-free-glass-0426.htmlFor info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
