BASE813 0 #26 August 25, 2003 QuoteAs I can tell by your number, you've been doing this for so long that you probably are bored by anything othen than a freefall & layout from 150' over hard earth excellent!!! your on a skydive website and my number is a reflection on my experience (eg you have 2000 skydives so you must be good!) - you can tell nothing by a number so how can you judge me by mine??!?!?!?!?!??!?!!? - just a thought????? but also in jest!!!! I hope!!?? respect to you 610 as I do "know" about you!!! NICE ONE!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #27 August 25, 2003 BASE is about different things to different people. I have like 30 jumps off of bridges. No other objects. Frankly, I currently have no desire to jump off anything else. Am I a true BASE jumper? no, probably not by most people's definition. But I am content (when I am healthy enough neck-wise) to jump off bridges and be scared and politely decline offers to go to other local "stuff behind me" objects. Am I looked down upon within the hardcore BASE community? Probably. But I really don't care. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #28 August 25, 2003 i like your thinking QuoteAm I looked down upon within the hardcore BASE community? Probably. But I really don't care. EDIT:by the way were do you find all thouse brigedes.. he he they seems to avoid me Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BASE813 0 #29 August 25, 2003 QuoteBASE is about different things to different people. yep - which is what i said! but its sooooooooooo true QuoteAm I looked down upon within the hardcore BASE community? Probably. But I really don't care. NICE! and thats what it is about - one mans madness is another mans comfort............. I would not do something that another guy would do with a gainer - but who am i too say that is wrong! my point i think is lost on this thread................ c'est le vie! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #30 August 25, 2003 Dude, you totally misunderstood my post. Oh no, wait, I guess you did understand it. No wait. If my post in any way gave you the impression that I condone paint huffing or toad licking, you are way off base. Anyway, blue skies. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #31 August 25, 2003 First, I have never done a BASE jump, but I'm considering going to Bridge Day. I don't consider those real BASE jumps either. I want to go because I can practice BASE exits, BASE throws, going PC stowed, and landing in a fairly tight landing area in a safe environment. You have very experienced BASE jumpers watching your every move and ready to critique you if you're nice to them. BD is safe statistically. Finally, it's sufficiently close to a real BASE jump (except for the whole illegal part) that I can decide if I want to risk my life doing this for real. Is a tandem passenger doing a real skydive? Not really, but it's a great learning tool, and they do get to experience freefall and canopy flight. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #32 August 25, 2003 Well pardner, I would have to strenuously disagree that bridge day is not a real base jump. You are jumping with a parachute off a span. baSe! But, that is just my opinion. If BASE to you means there has to be some aspect of banditry to it, that's cool. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrose7 0 #33 August 25, 2003 nice, push. My thoughts exactly. I am going to bridge day this year, and I am not going to be cool or to impress anyone. ( besides, I think if anyone is doing it to be cool, they are going to act like an idiot anywhere they go---be it at BD or at an antenna at night. at least at BD there is medical services that can carry off their cool lookin' sorry asses). I am going because I want to try base (or something like it) in a safer environment. Maybe it will spark my interest and someday I will be a REAL base jumper. Who knows, I never thought I would be a skydiver.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The mind is like a parachute--it works better when it is open. JUMP. MaryRose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #34 August 25, 2003 To me it's not a "real" BASE jump because it's not quite as dangerous. Or maybe I'm being delusional. Whatever. Pass the bong -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,076 #35 August 25, 2003 >if you are making this to make a break into BASE jumping does > doing one or two jumps at this festival earn you any respect from > your locals so then they will start taking you out? Bridge Day isn't about earning respect - for new jumpers it's about learning to BASE jump. It's a pretty good place to make your first BASE jump. There are seminars, you can land in the water and be pretty certain you'll get picked up. If you break your leg an ambulance will haul you away. If you don't have a mesh slider you can buy one there. If you worry at the exit point someone is there to help you. Bridge Day won't teach you all you need to know about BASE, but there are few places that are better for your first BASE jump. >It all seems to me that it is more of a "fair ground ride" then actually making a real BASE jump - It's as much of a real BASE jump as the Perrine is, if you ignore all the "BASE jumping is all about staring death in the face alone" nonsense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #36 August 25, 2003 It's dangerous. Don't fool yourself. Even though there is nothing behind you on a bridge (making it perhaps a bit LESS dangerous), it is still dangerous. BASE jumping at it's safest is till a game of odds. Jumping a single parachute system is still MUCH more dangerous than skydiving, no matter how careful you are packing, jumping, exiting, or whatever. I have never been to bridge day, but I am guessing that it is probably MORE stressful to make a first BASE jump there than it is at your local illegal span. Its 1AM with a full moon and you have quite a few minutes to psych yourself up to go as you hang out on the catwalk of bridge X. or "oh shit, 3 more people till I go, how is my bridle, have my sweaty hands made the pilot chute a big uninflatable block 2 more people oh shit that guy went head down fuck look at the landing area 1 more person nice exit on that one how is my bridle my turn oh shit are my thread thrus OK my turn, do I go NOW or what? shit here goes" At least that is how I envision me doing my first BASE jump at BD. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #37 August 25, 2003 I understand that it's dangerous. I meant that BD is less dangerous than your 1am example. More stressful perhaps, but still statistically safer. I'm not pretending BASE is safe. Skydiving is not safe, BASE is definitely not safe. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #38 August 25, 2003 Like I said, put the glass, baby! __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrose7 0 #39 August 25, 2003 Quote"oh shit, 3 more people till I go, how is my bridle, have my sweaty hands made the pilot chute a big uninflatable block 2 more people oh shit that guy went head down fuck look at the landing area 1 more person nice exit on that one how is my bridle my turn oh shit are my thread thrus OK my turn, do I go NOW or what? shit here goes" [whiney] Quiiit it......You're scaaaring me.... [whiney] hehe, I think these are the exciting parts of it. I think if someone is NOT nervous and scared(wherever they decide to do it), there may be a mental defect somewhere.....~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The mind is like a parachute--it works better when it is open. JUMP. MaryRose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #40 August 25, 2003 Quote[whiney] Quiiit it......You're scaaaring me.... [whiney] No kidding eh? I got butterflies in my stomach just reading that -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rfarris 2 #41 August 25, 2003 Hi cow-poke. PM'd ya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #42 August 25, 2003 QuoteBASE is about different things to different people. I have like 30 jumps off of bridges. No other objects. Frankly, I currently have no desire to jump off anything else. Am I a true BASE jumper? no, probably not by most people's definition. But I am content (when I am healthy enough neck-wise) to jump off bridges and be scared and politely decline offers to go to other local "stuff behind me" objects. Am I looked down upon within the hardcore BASE community? Probably. But I really don't care. That pretty much sums up how I feel too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faber 0 #43 August 25, 2003 QuoteI have never been to bridge day, but I am guessing that it is probably MORE stressful to make a first BASE jump there than it is at your local illegal span. Its 1AM with a full moon and you have quite a few minutes to psych yourself up to go as you hang out on the catwalk of bridge X. or "oh shit, 3 more people till I go, how is my bridle, have my sweaty hands made the pilot chute a big uninflatable block 2 more people oh shit that guy went head down fuck look at the landing area 1 more person nice exit on that one how is my bridle my turn oh shit are my thread thrus OK my turn, do I go NOW or what? shit here goes" Thats exaxtly what i dont like about it.. you might get that.. "fuck im scared,well if the person in front of me survive ill jump aswell" it should be "fuck im scared what am i doing here?should i go? yes or no..." thats what i mean by i personaly think its a wrong place for a fjc. Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base428 1 #44 August 25, 2003 A few comments from the Bridge Day 2003 BASE Coodinator: -I can't understand half of what you bozos are typing. Break out your dictionary please. -Those who are moaning about Bridge Day clearly haven't been there. As you can tell from some of the replies, Bridge Day is about jumping and meeting old friends. It's not ALL about the jumps. Although, how often do you get the opportunity to legally jump an 876' tall bridge? Yes, 2 seconds of that other legal bridge in Idaho is just great, but the NRGB affords 4-5 second delays. -Our FREE first jump courses are not as thorough as what you would get if you paid for one, but you are getting trained by the same people (Basic Research and Morpheus Tech) throughout the day on Friday. It is designed to give you the basics of BASE, assuming you have the right gear and hundreds of skydives under your belt. -If you think Bridge Day is NOT for first timers, you obviously don't know jack about our sport at all. So many jumpers, many of them quite famous, have made their first BASE jump at Bridge Day. For a LONG time, Bridge Day WAS legal BASE jumping. We didn't have Moab, or the 486'er....nothing. You probably wouldn't be reading this post right now if it weren't for Bridge Day. Chew on that..... -We sold all 400 jump slots in 20 days time. Obviously, Bridge Day will be around for quite sometime. -Where else can you get a free Birdman BASE seminar hosted by Robert Pecnik and Yuri? -Where else do you get bus rides from the bottom of the bridge all the way to the exit point on top? -And where else do they set up a 16' commercial aluminum diving board for the experts? -I'm not trying to defend Bridge Day, but let you know you should be thankful for Bridge Day....otherwise, you might still be doing hop and pops out of a 182. Those who haven't been there....you just don't understand.(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rfarris 2 #45 August 25, 2003 QuoteI'm not trying to defend Bridge Day,....... To me it sounds like you are, and rightfully so. Keep up the good work Jason and crew. I too am a 30 jump wonder, who started at BD '02. Will probably never get another chance to return to BD, for various reasons. Each of us who made their first jumps there, have their own personal thoughts about the event, what it did for them, and how it relates to their continuing or not with BASE. What ever my personal opinions are (which are highly positive) about the event, doesn't reflect one bit on the event's reputation as being one of the nation's best yearly kick ass BASE event. If not the only one. You shouldn't be bothered by personal opinions. Just try to have it closer to Texas next year, will ya. Rod Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BASE813 0 #46 August 25, 2003 Quote-I can't understand half of what you bozos are typing. Break out your dictionary please. Nice! i mean just coz someone whos first language is not English does not make them a "bozo" and if they are English speaking just because they may have a certain opinion does not make them a "bozo" Quote-Those who are moaning about Bridge Day clearly haven't been there I never moaned about it but was trying to get opinion on the "first timers" and what it meant to them - perhaps i worded it incorrectly........... please refer to my previous posts........ QuoteBridge Day is about jumping and meeting old friends. It's not ALL about the jumps. Although, how often do you get the opportunity to legally jump an 876' tall bridge? Yes, 2 seconds of that other legal bridge in Idaho is just great, but the NRGB affords 4-5 second delays. yeah it must be cool meeting with old friends......... but whether it is 2 or 5 seconds my point was about the attitude of the first time jumpers and how they walked away from it......... QuoteIf you think Bridge Day is NOT for first timers, you obviously don't know jack about our sport at all. I never said that - but I feel that for an introduction to BASE it does not cover the aspects of the sport I feel important. I also will wind my neck in as I did not realise that the new jumpers get seminars to "open their eyes"! Again I refer to my first posts, I am not belittling or slating or having a go at people taking the first jumps there (at least you are making the effort) - I was just after peoples opinions of it (sorry to offend certain people!!) be safe always! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crapflinger2000 1 #47 August 25, 2003 ummm.... this was just a little polite discourse on what BASE is to some people and the relative merits of doing your first BASE jump there or elsewhere.... relax dude. we are mostly all acknowledged know-nothing newbie low-timers.... no one is going to read this thread and NOT go to BD on the basis of it... jeez. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base428 1 #48 August 25, 2003 Perhaps I was a bit harsh in using the word "bozos". However, since Italian isn't my first language, I only use that language when I'm confident that I can communicate properly. BASE 813, my comments were not directly entirely toward you, but toward the entire thread. I always choose to defend BASE jumping, not necessarily Bridge Day. It just so happens that Bridge Day is an integral part of the evolution of BASE. Bridge Day has its good and bad points just like anything else. We have 90 first time jumpers this year. I can't wait to see the look in their eye as they step onto the launch ramp and then the smile on their faces as they walk away from the LZ. Now THAT is what Bridge Day is all about!!! There is no other place on earth where you'll find hundreds of experienced BASE jumpers teaching the first timers, simply because they want to help. I'll cya at Bridge Day.....(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crapflinger2000 1 #49 August 25, 2003 hooded sweatshirts for all!! __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base428 1 #50 August 25, 2003 Don't be so hard on yourself crapflinger Quote we are mostly all acknowledged know-nothing newbie low-timers(c)2010 Vertical Visions. 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Faber 0 #43 August 25, 2003 QuoteI have never been to bridge day, but I am guessing that it is probably MORE stressful to make a first BASE jump there than it is at your local illegal span. Its 1AM with a full moon and you have quite a few minutes to psych yourself up to go as you hang out on the catwalk of bridge X. or "oh shit, 3 more people till I go, how is my bridle, have my sweaty hands made the pilot chute a big uninflatable block 2 more people oh shit that guy went head down fuck look at the landing area 1 more person nice exit on that one how is my bridle my turn oh shit are my thread thrus OK my turn, do I go NOW or what? shit here goes" Thats exaxtly what i dont like about it.. you might get that.. "fuck im scared,well if the person in front of me survive ill jump aswell" it should be "fuck im scared what am i doing here?should i go? yes or no..." thats what i mean by i personaly think its a wrong place for a fjc. Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #44 August 25, 2003 A few comments from the Bridge Day 2003 BASE Coodinator: -I can't understand half of what you bozos are typing. Break out your dictionary please. -Those who are moaning about Bridge Day clearly haven't been there. As you can tell from some of the replies, Bridge Day is about jumping and meeting old friends. It's not ALL about the jumps. Although, how often do you get the opportunity to legally jump an 876' tall bridge? Yes, 2 seconds of that other legal bridge in Idaho is just great, but the NRGB affords 4-5 second delays. -Our FREE first jump courses are not as thorough as what you would get if you paid for one, but you are getting trained by the same people (Basic Research and Morpheus Tech) throughout the day on Friday. It is designed to give you the basics of BASE, assuming you have the right gear and hundreds of skydives under your belt. -If you think Bridge Day is NOT for first timers, you obviously don't know jack about our sport at all. So many jumpers, many of them quite famous, have made their first BASE jump at Bridge Day. For a LONG time, Bridge Day WAS legal BASE jumping. We didn't have Moab, or the 486'er....nothing. You probably wouldn't be reading this post right now if it weren't for Bridge Day. Chew on that..... -We sold all 400 jump slots in 20 days time. Obviously, Bridge Day will be around for quite sometime. -Where else can you get a free Birdman BASE seminar hosted by Robert Pecnik and Yuri? -Where else do you get bus rides from the bottom of the bridge all the way to the exit point on top? -And where else do they set up a 16' commercial aluminum diving board for the experts? -I'm not trying to defend Bridge Day, but let you know you should be thankful for Bridge Day....otherwise, you might still be doing hop and pops out of a 182. Those who haven't been there....you just don't understand.(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rfarris 2 #45 August 25, 2003 QuoteI'm not trying to defend Bridge Day,....... To me it sounds like you are, and rightfully so. Keep up the good work Jason and crew. I too am a 30 jump wonder, who started at BD '02. Will probably never get another chance to return to BD, for various reasons. Each of us who made their first jumps there, have their own personal thoughts about the event, what it did for them, and how it relates to their continuing or not with BASE. What ever my personal opinions are (which are highly positive) about the event, doesn't reflect one bit on the event's reputation as being one of the nation's best yearly kick ass BASE event. If not the only one. You shouldn't be bothered by personal opinions. Just try to have it closer to Texas next year, will ya. Rod Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BASE813 0 #46 August 25, 2003 Quote-I can't understand half of what you bozos are typing. Break out your dictionary please. Nice! i mean just coz someone whos first language is not English does not make them a "bozo" and if they are English speaking just because they may have a certain opinion does not make them a "bozo" Quote-Those who are moaning about Bridge Day clearly haven't been there I never moaned about it but was trying to get opinion on the "first timers" and what it meant to them - perhaps i worded it incorrectly........... please refer to my previous posts........ QuoteBridge Day is about jumping and meeting old friends. It's not ALL about the jumps. Although, how often do you get the opportunity to legally jump an 876' tall bridge? Yes, 2 seconds of that other legal bridge in Idaho is just great, but the NRGB affords 4-5 second delays. yeah it must be cool meeting with old friends......... but whether it is 2 or 5 seconds my point was about the attitude of the first time jumpers and how they walked away from it......... QuoteIf you think Bridge Day is NOT for first timers, you obviously don't know jack about our sport at all. I never said that - but I feel that for an introduction to BASE it does not cover the aspects of the sport I feel important. I also will wind my neck in as I did not realise that the new jumpers get seminars to "open their eyes"! Again I refer to my first posts, I am not belittling or slating or having a go at people taking the first jumps there (at least you are making the effort) - I was just after peoples opinions of it (sorry to offend certain people!!) be safe always! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #47 August 25, 2003 ummm.... this was just a little polite discourse on what BASE is to some people and the relative merits of doing your first BASE jump there or elsewhere.... relax dude. we are mostly all acknowledged know-nothing newbie low-timers.... no one is going to read this thread and NOT go to BD on the basis of it... jeez. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #48 August 25, 2003 Perhaps I was a bit harsh in using the word "bozos". However, since Italian isn't my first language, I only use that language when I'm confident that I can communicate properly. BASE 813, my comments were not directly entirely toward you, but toward the entire thread. I always choose to defend BASE jumping, not necessarily Bridge Day. It just so happens that Bridge Day is an integral part of the evolution of BASE. Bridge Day has its good and bad points just like anything else. We have 90 first time jumpers this year. I can't wait to see the look in their eye as they step onto the launch ramp and then the smile on their faces as they walk away from the LZ. Now THAT is what Bridge Day is all about!!! There is no other place on earth where you'll find hundreds of experienced BASE jumpers teaching the first timers, simply because they want to help. I'll cya at Bridge Day.....(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #49 August 25, 2003 hooded sweatshirts for all!! __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #50 August 25, 2003 Don't be so hard on yourself crapflinger Quote we are mostly all acknowledged know-nothing newbie low-timers(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
