Aviatrr 0 #26 August 4, 2001 Quote Any really good belly flier could not only catch you, they could leave the plane after you, catch you, take grips and keep you flying straight down for a change... Hey, can I get in on this bet? I'd like to see somebody exit after me then catch me while on their belly.. I'd be damn impressed, to say the least.. All I ever do is freefly.. Sometimes that freeflying just happens to keep my on my belly for most of the jump, turning points.. Does that make me just half gay?Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #27 August 4, 2001 QuoteI'd like to see somebody exit after me then catch me while on their belly.. Okay, let me clarify. A belly flyer who is a really good diver - ie someone who can go last on a 100 way. QuoteDoes that make me just half gay?Only when you're on your belly pull and flare,lisa----I am a nobody. Nobody's perfect. Therefore, I am perfect! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #28 August 4, 2001 QuoteIt's only because belly flying is gay!!!!!! Not that there's anything wrong with that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk 2 #29 August 4, 2001 what if u are a shit freeflyer and end up on your belly is that gay .lisa come on i could go out last on a 100 way its easy, what i have to dock and turn points as well oh ok mayby thats a little harder um um sis is right pyke is gay everyone stop looking at me leave me alone why wont these voices go away Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #30 August 5, 2001 ...and surely y'all are aware (but for the sake of those who aren't) that it's still illegal in Florida for a woman to skydive on Sunday! Hee HEE!!!!Peace~Lindsey"I live with fear and terror, but sometimes I leave him and go skydiving!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #31 August 6, 2001 Hmmm....Sounds like Pyke is a Grade A salad tosser.....LMAO. "Show me your Tits" -Me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #32 August 6, 2001 If they can catch me between 13,000 and 4,000 I will buy a beer. Swooping a formation and standing on your head are two totally different things. As for the gay thing. I think gay men are great! Leaves more chics for me! "Show me your Tits" -MeClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallin14 0 #33 August 6, 2001 I'm gonna have to agree with freeflir29 on this one. There is no way a belly flyer could catch someone head down after they exit. I wanna put a pro-track on a belly flyer and see them do 200mph on their belly. But a thought comes to mind - if a girl could arch so hard that she could go that fast, will someone introduce me to her? Think of the possibilities here guys...Blue Skies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #34 August 6, 2001 "Think of the possibilities here guys..."She's mine!!!!!"Show me your Tits" -MeClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #35 August 6, 2001 Hmm. I'm surprised Pyke hasn't dropped in to defend himself.Or maybe I'm missing something here....Stop! Step away from the vegetables!JustinFounder, Whuffo Conversion Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #36 August 6, 2001 I think Pyke is proud of his slutty gay ways....therefor, he has no need to defend himself."Show me your Tits" -MeClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #37 August 6, 2001 QuoteI wanna put a pro-track on a belly flyer and see them do 200mph on their belly. Ever met Bill Beaver? Bill has been belly flying with freefliers for several years now. Ever met Dave Starr? There's a pic in an older issue of Parachutist of him flying on his belly while Hunter Roberts and Tom Balzer are docked head down and standing up on him. They did about 5 transitions between head down and standing up above and below and beside him... Dave is just about 200lbs, btw, and was wearing the same suit he wore while on the base of the current world record skydive.It is very possible. Just takes a very experienced skydiver to do it.pull and flare,lisa----I am a nobody. Nobody's perfect. Therefore, I am perfect! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #38 August 6, 2001 "There's a pic in an older issue of Parachutist of him flying on his belly while Hunter Roberts and Tom Balzer are docked head down and standing up on him"These are called hybrid dives. The reason TWO people are docked on him is to pull evenly and make the belly flier go faster. If the FF are not coordinated they will pull the BF all kinda uneven. The FF are using the guy like a tube.....LOL It makes for really cool pics though. P.S. Dont believe the hype!"Show me your Tits" -MeClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #39 August 6, 2001 *note - i didn't type this response; it's straight from the horse's mouth*Hi, Horses mouth here. Name's Dave. I have over 3700 skydives in 10 years. The dive you refer to was a 5 point skydive with transitions being performed grip free by all 3 of us. We were averaging 145 air speed. You really should limit you statements to subjects you are fluent and knowledgable in. To make statements of certainty like the one you just made makes you look really stooopid. You don't like looking stooopid, do you?------just to reiterate --- I didn't type this one!!pull and flare,lisa----I am a nobody. Nobody's perfect. Therefore, I am perfect! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZBone 0 #40 August 6, 2001 What was that sound?It sounded like the loud >slap< of a gauntlet being thrown down!!OK, guys. Where and when? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #41 August 6, 2001 Dave or horses...mouth was it...LOLAveraging 145 on your head. Thats impressive. Hopefully I can do that some day. Oh yeah...3700 jumps...gee can I lick your balls right now!"Show me your Tits" -MeClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #42 August 6, 2001 "We were averaging 145 air speed"Back to the original intent of the thread. If anything, that jump would be a testiment to the skill of the Free Fliers to go that slow. Doing 145 on your belly aint too hard in my book."Show me your Tits" -MeClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #43 August 6, 2001 One last thing....On sounding stoooopid. I used to jump at Raeford. There were guys there that literally had 3 and 4 times that many jumps. I knew one that has over 12,000 skydives and an ADDITIONAL 3500 or so tandems. I found out from his brother how many jumps he had. He certainly never spouted it off to anyone. Just my observation...."Show me your Tits" -MeClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallin14 0 #44 August 6, 2001 Just to reiterate the main subject matter thrown down earlier - the comment was made that a belly flyer could catch a freeflyer even after the freeflyer exited, and dock on them. And I would just like to say - let's see it. Its simple physics people, no one on their belly can approach the speeds that a freeflyer can hit going head down. Go ahead and say that a good belly flyer (like the last person on a 100 way) can do it. I will say a average freeflyer trying to go fast can go faster. The hybrid dives you were talking about are choreographed and the freeflyers are trying to go as slow as possible, and the belly flyers are trying to go as fast as possible. Also, the sit flyers are wearing sit suits which slow thier speed considerably from a normal sit position. What I am saying is that these hybrid dives could not be done at average freefly speeds. The head downers in them are excellent flyers and know how to go slow. I freefly, and am not into the whole freefly bash belly flyers thing and vice versa, but don't try to tell me someone can get out after me and belly fly down to me if I am head down. Blue Skiesps - freeflir29, you going to Quincy? We can show them there if they would like eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #45 August 6, 2001 Dude...You may want to consider that a lot of jumpers from around the world lurk these forums without ever posting... a lot of VERY EXPERIENCED jumpers... and some very experienced RW and freefly organizers too. Skydiving being the small world that it is you just might not want to come off on here quite so much like what has been known for years in the sport as a "100 jump wonder." Note that the term is not complimentary; standard definition is "a novice skydiver who thinks they know everything but really knows next to nothing". And (this from Dave) "if your mouth is as big as it appears to be, my balls just might fit in there." pull and flare,lisa----I am a nobody. Nobody's perfect. Therefore, I am perfect! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallin14 0 #46 August 6, 2001 Dave - That was pretty good. I actually laughed while at work! Amazing. Hey by the way, since this post is long as hell already, who all is going to Quincy still? Getting there wednesday night, would like to meet some of the dz.com crew. Blue Skies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zclubber1 0 #47 August 6, 2001 It's not Pyke's fault he likes to putt from the rough.-can't you trip like I do-Clubber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #48 August 6, 2001 Yes, you are certainly right. I should be kissing your ass cause you have a lot more jumps than me. I'm sorry your greatness. I think people that know me and jump with me know what kind of jumper and person I am. If someone wants me to kiss their ass cause they have a few thousand jumps. Fuck you. There's a guy that jumps at Skydive Atlanta who is one of the best free fliers I have ever seen. I am constantly listening in on his coaching with other students because I learn a lot this way. I ask him questions all the time. He probably doesnt even know it but he has helped my flying immensly. He doesnt act like a jackass and I have no idea how many jumps he has. So, if someones professionalism is in question I dont think it's mine. Nice to have your opinions though. As far as what I know. No, it isnt a whole lot. I have 72 free falls and a whole bunch of military static lines ( which dont count for shit) I go out on the weekends and have fun. I jump with friends and every once in a while a "pro" I know that I have fun on the weekends. I know that one of the rules on the wall of the club where I learned to skydive was "I will not be an egotistical asshole" Unfortunately, not everyone out there adhere's to this rule. Good Luck.PS Keep talkin....You wouldnt be the first person I put in the hospital. I'm sure you are this much of a little bitch in person."Show me your Tits" -MeClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #49 August 6, 2001 QuotePS Keep talkin....You wouldnt be the first person I put in the hospital. I'm sure you are this much of a little bitch in person.Wow. Cool. I've now been threatened with bodily harm. Make you feel like a big man, threatening a woman?btw... Yes I am a bitch...and yes I freely admit it... note my nickname.And on that note, I'm going to get out of this thread. It's beginning to look a lot like wreck. My fault for rising to the bait. Sorry all!pull and flare,lisa----I am a nobody. Nobody's perfect. Therefore, I am perfect! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #50 August 6, 2001 No that was for Skygod Dave and his awesome number of jumps! Although an ass kickin has helped a lot of people see things clearly...LOL"Show me your Tits" -MeClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
