lowhook 0 #1 October 8, 2011 This happened to a friend of a friend at another DZ. He sent his Icarus canopy to a local rigger to have it relined. He jumped it 5 times without event. On the 6th jump he went to pop the toggles after opening and the right lower control line came right off. He had a toggle in his hand connected to a lower control line that was floating in the breeze. I am guessing it was finger trapped but never bar tacked. It could have been worse. It could have come off during a swoop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteS 0 #2 October 9, 2011 That's exactly why people must know how to do BASIC inspection of the equipment they are jumping. A second set of eyes never hurts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #3 October 9, 2011 yep and riggers are human too.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freeflaw 0 #4 October 9, 2011 i have found reserves with untacked brakelines...you wanna be certain....do that shit yourself...otherwise - suck it up cupcake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rover 11 #5 October 9, 2011 Seen the same thing happen on a brand new Pilot, about 10 jumps on it.2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #6 October 9, 2011 Well, I'm going to take the low road ere.... If you have work done on your equipment and don't check everything you can, you get what you get. Something so simple to check as main lines....*shaking head* Check your stuff. People make mistakes. Nobody is infallible. You can catch some of them before crunch time....if you bother to actually check.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #7 October 9, 2011 Knotting the fingertrapped loop at the toogle is a better setup IMO. Needless to say, that won't prevent a rigging error somewhere else.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #8 October 11, 2011 +1 "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #9 October 11, 2011 QuoteThis happened to a friend of a friend at another DZ. He sent his Icarus canopy to a local rigger to have it relined. He jumped it 5 times without event. On the 6th jump he went to pop the toggles after opening and the right lower control line came right off. He had a toggle in his hand connected to a lower control line that was floating in the breeze. I am guessing it was finger trapped but never bar tacked. It could have been worse. It could have come off during a swoop. I got this on the ground once. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowhook 0 #10 October 14, 2011 The toggle did not come off the line. What I wrote was that the lower control line came apart from the upper control line. Some line sets like Velo have a single line from the toggle to the cascade. Others have a separate upper and lower control line. The lower in this case is roughly 24 inches long. You can tie knots around the toggle finger trapped loop all day long and it will do nothing for what I described. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #11 October 14, 2011 My mistake, even though it's possible to knot the fingertrapped loops at the upper/lower junction it makes a big lump going through the guide ring. Hard to fault a customer for not inspecting every stitch. BTW when I have built new brakelines I have used stitchless fingertraps, they are reliable as hell but damn hard to see on inspection, the only flaw I find with them.. Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites