billvon 2,989
>Can anyone recommend an extreme sport that doesn't have this
> heavy family value/bible influence? Surfing? Ice climbing?
Drug using. Heck, it can kill you, get you arrested - you can even lose weight! And some chicks dig it.
>I can't believe there aren't skydivers out there that have devoted
>their lives to breaking the laws of god and man.
Skydivers generally devote their lives to skydiving more often than they devote their lives to breaking the law. If that's what you're looking for, perhaps the local jail would yield you people more devoted to "the cause."
>Please don't hate me or try to kill me.
Why? Because that would be breaking the laws of god and man? I thought that's what you _wanted_ us to do.
You've fallen prey to one of the most common misconceptions about extreme sports - that people who stretch the laws of physics and aerodynamics also want to break the laws of our society. And while that's what Hollywood would have you believe, generally that's not the case. Some of the best skydivers in the sport are also some of the nicest, straightest people you'll ever meet. Some others are druggies or criminals, but as heavy drug use and jail time often interfere with skydiving, they are not in the majority.
If you want to jump, be a skydiver. If you want to do drugs, be a drug user. Or do both. But don't make the mistake that one implies the other, or that they really have any connection at all.
> heavy family value/bible influence? Surfing? Ice climbing?
Drug using. Heck, it can kill you, get you arrested - you can even lose weight! And some chicks dig it.
>I can't believe there aren't skydivers out there that have devoted
>their lives to breaking the laws of god and man.
Skydivers generally devote their lives to skydiving more often than they devote their lives to breaking the law. If that's what you're looking for, perhaps the local jail would yield you people more devoted to "the cause."
>Please don't hate me or try to kill me.
Why? Because that would be breaking the laws of god and man? I thought that's what you _wanted_ us to do.
You've fallen prey to one of the most common misconceptions about extreme sports - that people who stretch the laws of physics and aerodynamics also want to break the laws of our society. And while that's what Hollywood would have you believe, generally that's not the case. Some of the best skydivers in the sport are also some of the nicest, straightest people you'll ever meet. Some others are druggies or criminals, but as heavy drug use and jail time often interfere with skydiving, they are not in the majority.
If you want to jump, be a skydiver. If you want to do drugs, be a drug user. Or do both. But don't make the mistake that one implies the other, or that they really have any connection at all.
turtlespeed 219
QuoteCan anyone recommend an extreme sport that doesn't have this heavy family value/bible influence?
there is always cliff diving.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
yes..... but how high does the cliff need to be for it to be considered "extreme"? 300' plus maybe?
Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD
"What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me
"Anything you want." ~ female skydiver
Mohoso Rodriguez #865
"What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me
"Anything you want." ~ female skydiver
Mohoso Rodriguez #865
actually billvon, methinks he protests too much...its starting to look like a gag...(you guys call it trolling?? is that the term?')
So True, playing with wind/air dynamics is a skill and a sport, and whatever someone does afterwards, pray or play....that's a personal choice that does not have to be advertised....
So True, playing with wind/air dynamics is a skill and a sport, and whatever someone does afterwards, pray or play....that's a personal choice that does not have to be advertised....
QuoteI can't believe there aren't skydivers out there that have devoted their lives to breaking the laws of god and man.
It seems more like you have devoted your life to being the center of attention. If you are doing something totally for yourself you shouldn't feel the need to advertise it so much.
QuoteI've seen golfers that are more rebellious than some of you guys.
Most people grow out of that after puberty.
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin
Well, I see very little wrong with smoking pot if it is done responsibly......It is a ancient drug that has been used for thousands of years by every society. In fact, I see no difference between pot and alcohol. Can it be abused-YES-but so can everything else. It should be up to the person who chooses to use it. And too, I have been to Amsterdam, and I see how badly it has affected thier country!
"Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance,
others mean and rueful of the western dream"
"Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance,
others mean and rueful of the western dream"
QuoteWell, I see very little wrong with smoking pot if it is done responsibly
Except for the fact that it is illegal.
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin
turtlespeed 219
QuoteQuoteWell, I see very little wrong with smoking pot if it is done responsibly
Except for the fact that it is illegal.
Well, lets not overstate the obvious here.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, I see very little wrong with smoking pot if it is done responsibly
Except for the fact that it is illegal.
Well, lets not overstate the obvious here.
I believe that the appropriate smart-ass remark is
"Thank you captin obvious"
but really... why is it such a debate... if it doesnt affect our or our families' saftey and well-being what the hell does it matter? yes I know that you can trace too many things back to its roots, eg. organized crime, poverty, whatever...
any REAL topic... and REAL interest can be traced back and broken down in to its simplest components, and it always comes back to who is it really hurting? hell, we could debate a goat on the back of a guy riding a bicycle and end up with the same common denominator. no really it happened here.
but maybe im just talking out of my arse! cheers!
Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD
"What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me
"Anything you want." ~ female skydiver
Mohoso Rodriguez #865
"What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me
"Anything you want." ~ female skydiver
Mohoso Rodriguez #865
so....yeah...pot...
Think of it this way. Pot is a recreational vehicle. You don't drive it around all the time, 24/7, do you?
Puts things in perspective.
And, I have to agree with others, if you announce that you partake in illegal activities, don't don't DON'T give your dz the bad rap.
If I loved you anymore I would have a stroke
Think of it this way. Pot is a recreational vehicle. You don't drive it around all the time, 24/7, do you?
Puts things in perspective.
And, I have to agree with others, if you announce that you partake in illegal activities, don't don't DON'T give your dz the bad rap.
If I loved you anymore I would have a stroke
digurman 0
DON'T:
advertise that you do it, where you do it, when you do it, where you want to do it, or involve business names in it (reply]
You guys are killing me.
I said I DO IT AT HOME
God in heaven. Give me a break. I never heard of Spaceland. I'm a surfer, but I would like to make a tandem jump some day.
Words aren't real
advertise that you do it, where you do it, when you do it, where you want to do it, or involve business names in it (reply]
You guys are killing me.
I said I DO IT AT HOME
God in heaven. Give me a break. I never heard of Spaceland. I'm a surfer, but I would like to make a tandem jump some day.
Words aren't real
skymama 37
QuoteGod in heaven. Give me a break.
That's exactly what I'm thinking after reading your last post.
This thread is done. Trolls aren't appreciated around here.
She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon
"My drug counselor asked me,'you scuba dive',yes, 'you Bungee Jump?'yes, 'You Hang Glide?'yes, 'You are a commercial pilot?', yes, 'a Jump Pilot, you fly skydivers?' Yes, 'You jump out of planes and sky dive yourself?', yes. Then when the fuck is enough, ENOUGH?
I just kinda sat there...made sense to me...
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
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