bobsled92 0 #1 August 9, 2003 Cross-post does anyone see or know anyting different with the new canopy? WFFC daily shots! www.freefall.com go to daily pics (dated) for loads of shots_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spidermonky 0 #2 August 9, 2003 It's purdy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bobsled92 0 #3 August 9, 2003 yep..but, I was hoping to find out what it is that they made different With all the Pre-Hype, I'm sure it flies it's own NEW way._______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #4 August 9, 2003 QuoteI'm sure it flies it's own NEW way. You flare it with your feet...strange but true.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TB99 0 #5 August 9, 2003 I've heard of a lot of differences, but I'm going to let PD do the talking. One thing I will say that it is definately an awesome step up from the Stiletto!! It's nothing like the old Stiletto except for the fact that it's 9-cell eliptical. It's most likely going to be my next canopy. Oh, it is a step down from crossbraced, so it's not for those people arleady jumping crossbraced canopies (if you couldn't figure that out on your own) Okay ... nevermind, here's what I know about it since it's out now anyways ... Dives a little more than a Stiletto and swoops farther. Reason for a better swoop is the fact that this canopy has an awesome bottom end as well (which the Stiletto lacks). Still really responsive to harness inputs and is quite snappy. Oh, and it carves real well too (just not AS good as the Stiletto carving machine). I think (this part I'm not 100% on), it has a pretty fast and short recovery arc as well. It will recover on it's own, but you're better using at least a slight input to pull it out of the dive. I probably forgot some things, but that's what I know, enjoy! Trailer 11/12 was the best. Thanks for the memories ... you guys rocked! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bobsled92 0 #6 August 9, 2003 QuoteQuoteI'm sure it flies it's own NEW way. You flare it with your feet...strange but true. OK, you got me.._______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rmsmith 1 #7 August 9, 2003 QuoteI think (this part I'm not 100% on), it has a pretty fast and short recovery arc as well. This would be a poor quality for a swoop canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TB99 0 #8 August 9, 2003 Okay, like I said, I wasn't 100% on that one ... maybe I heard it recovers a little faster than the Stiletto, I don't know. That was the one fact I was vague about because I can't remember exactly what was said that time! Trailer 11/12 was the best. Thanks for the memories ... you guys rocked! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bobsled92 0 #9 August 9, 2003 Someone at Rantoul was jumping it and they were in they Heads down photo attached (up above post). I'm hunting a canopy in "that" range but, I think I'm sticking with Comp Cobalt for now. -I get talked into exciting things but, AFTER someone else successfully does "it" before I do. Thus, the story of my life(continues) -Grant_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChasingBlueSky 0 #10 August 9, 2003 QuoteOkay, like I said, I wasn't 100% on that one ... maybe I heard it recovers a little faster than the Stiletto, I don't know. That was the one fact I was vague about because I can't remember exactly what was said that time! OK, now that it is out, I'll tell you what PD told me at Rantoul....(nice pics, they said you would be able to pick the canopy out once it was in the air - "there will be no way to miss this one") It isn't quite done, yet. Well, they have sizes up to the 120 finished, tweaking the 135 still and once the 150 is completed they will start taking orders. 150 is going to be the largest sized - they don't see the need to make a canopy of this perfomance any bigger. It is a 9 cell, full eliptical, deeper flare than the stiletto, but more bottom end. Openings are better than the Sabre 2, and some of their test pilots think it may be better than the Spectre. It turns "really fast" is what I was told, some of the lightest front riser pressure ever but the trade off is more pressure on the rear risers (however, the rear risers turns are "aggressive"). It dives - ALOT and may even require some toggle input for a shorter recovery arc. It is officially a step up from the Stiletto as far as performance and experience required to fly it, and roughly a step below the cross-braced crowd. If I recall correctly, the glide path is somewhere between the Stiletto and the Vengeance, but was told that a long spot will not be an issue. I was told that at my wingloading (1.65) I would pretty much be near a sweet spot on it - but you could easily go higher. The only people that will be jumping it at Rantoul will be the PD team. I think that is all I was told....other than, if I was looking at the Samurai or Crossfire2, I may want to wait just a little bit longer. Just be patient, is what was suggested to me._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites adamjenner 0 #11 August 10, 2003 QuoteThis would be a poor quality for a swoop canopy. apparently there was a video i think they mentioned in another post and they said the canopy had massive swoops? i'm not sure. it looks nice though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Enano 0 #12 August 10, 2003 QuoteDives a little more than a Stiletto and swoops farther. Reason for a better swoop is the fact that this canopy has an awesome bottom end as well (which the Stiletto lacks). How some one that have barely any jumps on a canopy or the canopy flying skills, have the courage to be telling people what a canopy is capable to do, please don't be teling people about what you don't know...42 and don't forget your towell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #13 August 10, 2003 Katana.... I just want to say it again.. K A T A N A ... Boioioioioioioioing!!! LOL Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Enano 0 #14 August 10, 2003 Yeha, yess I want to jump one like rite now, i have 1000 jump in a Stiletto and I love it but I rally want to try this one. beter to regret something you did, that regret you didn't...42 and don't forget your towell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TB99 0 #15 August 11, 2003 Alright ... I'll crosspost here too since you had the same comment on the other post: This is NOT from my experience ... I have no clue from PERSONAL experience, I'm telling you what a few of the TEST JUMPERS told me about it. All I did was copy and paste what they said to here. The exact words were, "this canopy has more bottom end than a stiletto, etc etc ..." I haven't jumped the Katana, so how the hell would I even be able to compare it? And no, that 107 wasn't the first time I jumped a Stiletto, I did a bunch of jumps on a 120 I borrowed from Aubrey from PD. So straight from the horses mouth ... Katana has more bottom end than a Stiletto, period. Trailer 11/12 was the best. Thanks for the memories ... you guys rocked! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bbarnhouse 0 #16 August 11, 2003 I spent quite a bit of time with Chris (test pilot from PD) picking his brain on this new canopy. As I fly both Stilleto and Sabre2, truth is I more than picked it. I could tell you alot about this canpopy in theory, but until I actually jump it I doubt that it would be helpful. I will say that this canopy is intended to be a nice transition for begining swoopers. More than a Stiletto, less than a Vengence. I am wondering if I can accidently jump one of the Airspeed canopies Ohhhhh I just can't wait! BB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Enano 0 #17 August 12, 2003 Quote So straight from the horses mouth ... Katana has more bottom end than a Stiletto, period. Again, that is some one else opinion, that doesn't mean is like that, maybe somebody else think different or have a different opinion, so you shouldn't be talking facts just because some one told you so, you should find out for your self, that what I think any how.42 and don't forget your towell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
bobsled92 0 #3 August 9, 2003 yep..but, I was hoping to find out what it is that they made different With all the Pre-Hype, I'm sure it flies it's own NEW way._______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 August 9, 2003 QuoteI'm sure it flies it's own NEW way. You flare it with your feet...strange but true.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TB99 0 #5 August 9, 2003 I've heard of a lot of differences, but I'm going to let PD do the talking. One thing I will say that it is definately an awesome step up from the Stiletto!! It's nothing like the old Stiletto except for the fact that it's 9-cell eliptical. It's most likely going to be my next canopy. Oh, it is a step down from crossbraced, so it's not for those people arleady jumping crossbraced canopies (if you couldn't figure that out on your own) Okay ... nevermind, here's what I know about it since it's out now anyways ... Dives a little more than a Stiletto and swoops farther. Reason for a better swoop is the fact that this canopy has an awesome bottom end as well (which the Stiletto lacks). Still really responsive to harness inputs and is quite snappy. Oh, and it carves real well too (just not AS good as the Stiletto carving machine). I think (this part I'm not 100% on), it has a pretty fast and short recovery arc as well. It will recover on it's own, but you're better using at least a slight input to pull it out of the dive. I probably forgot some things, but that's what I know, enjoy! Trailer 11/12 was the best. Thanks for the memories ... you guys rocked! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #6 August 9, 2003 QuoteQuoteI'm sure it flies it's own NEW way. You flare it with your feet...strange but true. OK, you got me.._______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #7 August 9, 2003 QuoteI think (this part I'm not 100% on), it has a pretty fast and short recovery arc as well. This would be a poor quality for a swoop canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TB99 0 #8 August 9, 2003 Okay, like I said, I wasn't 100% on that one ... maybe I heard it recovers a little faster than the Stiletto, I don't know. That was the one fact I was vague about because I can't remember exactly what was said that time! Trailer 11/12 was the best. Thanks for the memories ... you guys rocked! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #9 August 9, 2003 Someone at Rantoul was jumping it and they were in they Heads down photo attached (up above post). I'm hunting a canopy in "that" range but, I think I'm sticking with Comp Cobalt for now. -I get talked into exciting things but, AFTER someone else successfully does "it" before I do. Thus, the story of my life(continues) -Grant_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #10 August 9, 2003 QuoteOkay, like I said, I wasn't 100% on that one ... maybe I heard it recovers a little faster than the Stiletto, I don't know. That was the one fact I was vague about because I can't remember exactly what was said that time! OK, now that it is out, I'll tell you what PD told me at Rantoul....(nice pics, they said you would be able to pick the canopy out once it was in the air - "there will be no way to miss this one") It isn't quite done, yet. Well, they have sizes up to the 120 finished, tweaking the 135 still and once the 150 is completed they will start taking orders. 150 is going to be the largest sized - they don't see the need to make a canopy of this perfomance any bigger. It is a 9 cell, full eliptical, deeper flare than the stiletto, but more bottom end. Openings are better than the Sabre 2, and some of their test pilots think it may be better than the Spectre. It turns "really fast" is what I was told, some of the lightest front riser pressure ever but the trade off is more pressure on the rear risers (however, the rear risers turns are "aggressive"). It dives - ALOT and may even require some toggle input for a shorter recovery arc. It is officially a step up from the Stiletto as far as performance and experience required to fly it, and roughly a step below the cross-braced crowd. If I recall correctly, the glide path is somewhere between the Stiletto and the Vengeance, but was told that a long spot will not be an issue. I was told that at my wingloading (1.65) I would pretty much be near a sweet spot on it - but you could easily go higher. The only people that will be jumping it at Rantoul will be the PD team. I think that is all I was told....other than, if I was looking at the Samurai or Crossfire2, I may want to wait just a little bit longer. Just be patient, is what was suggested to me._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamjenner 0 #11 August 10, 2003 QuoteThis would be a poor quality for a swoop canopy. apparently there was a video i think they mentioned in another post and they said the canopy had massive swoops? i'm not sure. it looks nice though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enano 0 #12 August 10, 2003 QuoteDives a little more than a Stiletto and swoops farther. Reason for a better swoop is the fact that this canopy has an awesome bottom end as well (which the Stiletto lacks). How some one that have barely any jumps on a canopy or the canopy flying skills, have the courage to be telling people what a canopy is capable to do, please don't be teling people about what you don't know...42 and don't forget your towell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #13 August 10, 2003 Katana.... I just want to say it again.. K A T A N A ... Boioioioioioioioing!!! LOL Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enano 0 #14 August 10, 2003 Yeha, yess I want to jump one like rite now, i have 1000 jump in a Stiletto and I love it but I rally want to try this one. beter to regret something you did, that regret you didn't...42 and don't forget your towell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TB99 0 #15 August 11, 2003 Alright ... I'll crosspost here too since you had the same comment on the other post: This is NOT from my experience ... I have no clue from PERSONAL experience, I'm telling you what a few of the TEST JUMPERS told me about it. All I did was copy and paste what they said to here. The exact words were, "this canopy has more bottom end than a stiletto, etc etc ..." I haven't jumped the Katana, so how the hell would I even be able to compare it? And no, that 107 wasn't the first time I jumped a Stiletto, I did a bunch of jumps on a 120 I borrowed from Aubrey from PD. So straight from the horses mouth ... Katana has more bottom end than a Stiletto, period. Trailer 11/12 was the best. Thanks for the memories ... you guys rocked! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #16 August 11, 2003 I spent quite a bit of time with Chris (test pilot from PD) picking his brain on this new canopy. As I fly both Stilleto and Sabre2, truth is I more than picked it. I could tell you alot about this canpopy in theory, but until I actually jump it I doubt that it would be helpful. I will say that this canopy is intended to be a nice transition for begining swoopers. More than a Stiletto, less than a Vengence. I am wondering if I can accidently jump one of the Airspeed canopies Ohhhhh I just can't wait! BB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enano 0 #17 August 12, 2003 Quote So straight from the horses mouth ... Katana has more bottom end than a Stiletto, period. Again, that is some one else opinion, that doesn't mean is like that, maybe somebody else think different or have a different opinion, so you shouldn't be talking facts just because some one told you so, you should find out for your self, that what I think any how.42 and don't forget your towell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
